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What about the admancy of the Left. Manmohan has now to dance to the tunes of the LEFT.

Does it now include the Left, the Ms and the Gs

Well even Mayawati wants to be PM and so is Prakash Karat!!!

Right or centre, Left is always right.

Deliberate delay tactics to provide for importing of Defence equipments and scope for more corruption.

Will action be taken against people like TR Balu who have also erred to much larger extent in damaging the name and prestige of the high office of MP.

It is the govt's responsibility to bring awareness among consumers on the financial implication of duty cuts, in terms of final product price.

What does one do, when the purchase of medicines for Govt. hospitals is with the politicians?

But wasnt it ideal for the weather conditions in India???

He will have to return his money. That is it.

I guess you must be having some incriminating evidence of Sreesanth provoking Harbajjan. PLease provide the same to the public. Anyway what right he has to harm Sreesanth Physically. If at all he should have only resorted to verbal encounter.

If one is going to pray to god for a long life, then it is the misconception of the individual and not the fault of god. One has to understand that birth and death are inevitable. One needs to do good in life to alleviate one from troubles and to ensure peaceful living and also in death. Praying to god is only a means to control the mind and also for some relaxes a stressed mind. As I had mentioned several times, god is within and needs no external objects.

Hello, Quite true. Unfortunately, the media looks at it the they way it wants to look and projects it the way which gets good TRP rating. All it requires it that person should be a farmer. The cause and effects are conveniently ignored.

Moreover, in todays scenario as most of the ships are heavy duty, high capacity cargo ships, none will be able to pass through the canal. This is the view of many of the marine engineers and naval staff.

To suit to the political whims and fancies only and not for any significant improvement.

We have to understand, that once we leave our shores, we have to abide by the law of that land.

But do we have leaders with foresight like B R Ambedkar, who could bring about radical changes to the constitution, without being selfish and looking take care of their one personal interests.

The fear of death and especially, when the life span is almost decided, everything else goes behind the curtain. The money power comes into focus, playing on the lives of the poor inducing them to succumb.

You have not taken into consideration, the palatial bungalow provide by the country, the posse of staff for household and other domestic duties and many more fringe benefits. Further more, once the term is over the president is given once again a palatial accomodation for the rest of the life along with pension. As for life in corporates, the income comes to a stand still once a person retires.

very true. Without expanding the road infrastructure, the govt. is giving open licenses for car manufacturers. This going to create more traffic jams.

This is an open bribe for the president to ink whatever papers the ruling front send to her.

They will not. Biased, pseudo-secular, Islam embracing, christianity covetting.

You are right. Procter went by the words of the australians. In his report, he had also mentioned that only one side told the truth. Implying that the Indians were lying. The Indian team is upset over Procter on this comment of his.

Sharad Pawar the BCCI president is having an eye on the ICC presidentship, and would Harbajjan be used as a pawn?

Explicit Jesus statue by a so-called creative sculptor causes uproar in UK, this I guess would be considered as a genuine and natural reaction. Whereas the reactions by hindu religious leaders and organizations to the nude paintings of Hindu goddess has been considered fanatic and fundamentalism, by the pseudo-seculars. That is what is called hypocrcay and bashings.

It is nothing but a pre-planned, pre-mediated, revenge taken by the Australians to counter the comments on Andrew Symonds by the crowds in India during the the recent australian tour to India.

Which is what the media is doing! and the even the learned are succumbing to it.

I challenge if hindus can propagate and convert people of other faiths, especially in the Islamic countries.

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi had also aired his view on the missionary activities in India.

You are right. One should bundle all ego and set it aside as one has to sacrifice something if they are to gain something else.

You seem to be also having hatred!!!

# Swami Lakshmananda Saraswati, the innocent victim of Christian attack, has also accused the Congress MP Radhakanta Nayak of unprovoked violence in the area and attack on him. He told reporters that ‘a group of villagers launched an attack on me at the instruction of Nayak. The attack was intended to kill me and thus eliminate me from the scene so that under the leadership of Nayak, the local Christians could carry on their ‘anti-national and anti-social work’ of illegal conversion without any hindrance in the area. This is the seventh time they have tried to murder me and I have survived because of divine grace.’ Though the Christian goondas did not succeed in their criminal mission, yet they succeeded in causing grievous injuries to the driver and personal security guard of Lakshmananda whose car was badly damaged. Lakshmananda has been leading the anti-conversion movement in the area. It is not therefore, surprising that a few Christian thugs, who could not tolerate the ‘Home Coming’ ceremonies organised by the Swamiji, have ruthlessly attacked his convoy, which is uncalled for and unwarranted.

Congress Member of Parliament in the Rajya Sabha, Radhakanta Nayak. He is being projected as the leader of the Christians in the locality;what is being consciously hidden from public gaze is that this Christian also heads World Vision in India”. World Vision is notorious for pumping money into India for religious conversion and their shenanigans in the conversion industry in the aftermath of the tsunami is well-known but equally well hidden from public discourse. I have personally known a lady who was Annalakshmi before tsunami and Anna Marie after tsunami”. “World Vision is one of the top donors to NGOs in India and World Vision India one of the top ten recipients of funds for Christian missionary activity. I am therefore not at all surprised that the Hindus of Orissa are now beginning to summon the will to react against the willful offer of insult to Hindu sensibilities”.

You seem to also have a biased reading specifically towards my posts, without reading its contents.

Why not. When illegal immigrants from Bangladesh can be legalised by the Congress through controversial IMDT act, then why not

Can we discuss M F Hussain???

Also some foreign funded NGOs whose sole objective is for harvesting of souls.

Unfortunately, this tolerance is taken for granted and being misused.

The NGOs like world vision should also not be allowed to operate in India.

The Niyogi Commission which was constituted by the MP government in the mid-50s had also confirmed the dubious methods adopted by the churches and missionaries for the harvesting of souls and it had recommended for a ‘ban’ on conversions. The then Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, who always considered himself to be an English man, was guilty of political cowardice when he used the transitory might of his office to completely suppress the Niyogi Commission report. As a known ‘Hindu-baiter’ with dubiously double standards, he saw to it that the Niyogi Commission report was treated as contraband opium, without it being tabled in Parliament, in the grandeloquent name of secularism.

All the English Newspapers, without any exception, have reported that VHP, Bajrang Dal and other Hindu outfits are destroying Churches in Orissa and attacking and killing the Christians. The most important cardinal truth that is being deliberately and mischievously suppressed by the media is the fact that the whole trouble started after the Fanatic Christians attacked SWAMY LAKSHMANANDA SARASWATHI in Christian dominated Brahmanaigaon in Kandhamal District in Orissa on Monday, the 24 December 2007. This fact of an assault on Hindu feelings, sentiments, emotions and susceptibilities is of no concern to our mainline English Newspapers and TV Channels. This fact is being suppressed by the anti-national and anti-Hindu and anti-civilization in English media with Islamic tenacity and Christian compassion!

Swami Lakshmananda Saraswati, the innocent victim of Christian attack, has also accused the Congress MP Radhakanta Nayak of unprovoked violence in the area and attack on him. He told reporters that ‘a group of villagers launched an attack on me at the instruction of Nayak. The attack was intended to kill me and thus eliminate me from the scene so that under the leadership of Nayak, the local Christians could carry on their ‘anti-national and anti-social work’ of illegal conversion without any hindrance in the area. This is the seventh time they have tried to murder me and I have survived because of divine grace.’ Though the Christian goondas did not succeed in their criminal mission, yet they succeeded in causing grievous injuries to the driver and personal security guard of Lakshmananda whose car was badly damaged. Lakshmananda has been leading the anti-conversion movement in the area. It is not therefore, surprising that a few Christian thugs, who could not tolerate the ‘Home Coming’ ceremonies organised by the Swamiji, have ruthlessly attacked his convoy, which is uncalled for and unwarranted.

Unfortunately, it has been made to be that way, The Hindus have been treated like second class citizens right since Independence. Anything voiced by Hindus about Hinduism is teated with contempt and termed fundamentalism, while the others are given a free hand in stating whatever they like including propagating and that is fine and constitutionally ok. That is the sad state of affairs.

Some facts of development that have taken place. A) Value of farm output in Gujarat has grown four times. B) School dropout rate has come down to 3% from over 40% C) All the villages in Gujarat (not only the saffronised Hindu villages viewed with suspicion, hatred and contempt by the mercenary criminal scribes in the media!), WITHOUT EXCEPTION, are getting 24- hour, three-phase power supply in their homes and humble hamlets. D) Areas and villages which were perennially drought-prone for decades under Congress misrule - their day to day drinking water and irrigation problems - have been tackled and solved once for all through the construction of more than 140,000 check-dams and village ponds across the street. The pipelines and canals fetching Narmada water have transformed the rural areas of Gujarat. Modi’s government has succeeded in liberating the arid and drought-prone areas of Gujarat from their wretched dependence on water-tankers transporting expensive water. E) The number of registered unemployed in Gujarat has actually declined by over 15%. F) Almost a lakh rural poor expecting mothers have delivered, assisted by private gynaecologists, all paid for by the State. G) To top it all, the past five years were riot-free, curfew-free, and despite being targeted by several terror groups from across the borders, terror-strike-free.

If experience teaches us anything at all, it teaches us this: that a good and objective media man under our decadent democracy, is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.

Wether he is a hero to me or not is a different proposition. He is today the Hero of Gujarath and has made other a complete Zero.

A right question posed to the wrong person. I dont think one can expect a straight forward answer.

After all public realise what development is. That there has been no development as claimed by Congress has been rejected by the public. Now they know who is lying.

Pranab Mukherjee has also said that Tasleema is the guest of India.

This was a news item which I think requires a lot of introspection from all those who should believe that Hinduism is to be protected from the hands of Missionaries. Archbishop of Chennai, Chinappa has asked the catholic community to send their children to Catholic educational institutions so that the religious education imparted in the schools can be imbibed into the children. Isnt this a blatant acceptance of religion being brought into education by the convent schools. What would be the reactions if the Hindu Religious leaders say that hindu parents should not put their children into Catholic educational institutions. There will be an uproar calling it hindu fundamentalism.

Please let the Congress understand how they should rule. Divide and rule inculcated from the british has been perfected inti an art by the Congress over 60 long years.

That is why they are awe struck and have no words. They are still swallowing the bitter pill.

The hate created by Congress has only strengthened the state.

What would have been the implication had Modi lost???

It is a lesson to all parties. Appeasement alone will not work. Development is the key to any success and Modi has shown the way for all Chief Ministers and parties to follow.

Such a statement is unwarranted.

What is Jagdish Tytler been doing since 1984 anti-sikh riots?? That was of a much larger proportion. Those have been conveniently given a ceremonial burial.

It is not INC. It is only Indira National Congress.

Congress can prosper only if they shed the pseudo-gandhi tag.

The probing and acidic questions continued even after the results.

Spineless, pseudo-tag and Mafia should be out.

Confused.

I fully agree, Iam also a Vegetarian too. But one should also consider, how those animal population will be restricted. As otherwise their population will go out-of control, that will also require space and food. And then Darwins theory of survival of the fittest will come into play and a fight for food will arise, between human beings and animals.

By highlighting the names, what is in your heart has come out. You have your views and I have mine, sometimes there is agreement and others may be not. That is it.

I think the ideal way to put it is that we have already lost a portion of the great BHARATH.

I hope atleast the remaining hindus understand the Khilafat movement, the Mooplah masacre etc and dont fall a trap to pseudo-secular practices.

Unfortunately, the history that we all know is the DISCOVERY of INDIA, the way Nehru thought history to be.

MIM of hyderabad of which Owaisi a sitting MP and that is democracy!!!

The general belief among the illiterate masses is that the Dynasty is related to the mahatma, and that was the sole purpose for which the tag was assigned.

Changing names is not illegal, not have I ever stated that it was illegal. I only reiterated that the name change was with cunning intentions.

Because that policy was initiated solely for them.

There again it cannot be on caste basis. IF you see the concessions are reaped only by the elite amongst the so-called deprived.

Precisely what I have been saying. Deprived yes. Not on religious basis.

Unfortunately so. Brainwashed by pseudo-secular policies and practices.

How obvious facts have been accepted. If a person says he is a hindu, he is considered communal, while someone say he is Christian or a musalman, it is considered religious.

I dont attempt to get any support. I rely on my very own strength of views. I was only highlighting a fact that you had generalised all hindus as communal.

The question is why have different rules. Have the rules applied equally.

I agree, but there also need to be a balance. If every one turns to Vegetarianism, will there be enough vegetation to support the ever growing population. Secondly, the population of such animals that are consumed, will also increase, which also require sufficient vegetation for their survival.

Correct. Tollerance is the reason for extraneous religions being propagated and multiplied.

If response dont get hosted I am helpless. Let me try one last time. Who initiated the appeasement practice and for whom. Has it stopped. If this goes on where does the deprived go and what options do they have.

Stooges of the Congress. What happenned to Italian mafia don Mr. Q. Went walking free thanks to the local Italian support.

No sir. Media does not follow all cases in the same manner. Some are given extreme importance, and some none at all. This depends on the guidelines set by the powers.

The witness will be either be bribed or mouth shut for-ever.

Iam talking of human tendencies. May be you are a different kind.

But in this case, it is untruth-as truth and truth as untruth

Pseudo-secular practices and appeasement. There is nothing wrong in having a hindu nation. When there can be Islamic republic, budhist state, European Christian christianism, then why not. Let us not try to act as wolf in sheeps clothing.

Wasnt Nehru a much more cunning man to Name Feroz Khan as Feroz Gandhi for the dynasty to misuse the Gandhi tag.

Can anybody be more cunning than the dynasty, misusing the Pseudo-Gandhi tag.

In Chennai, the Ganapathy procession is not allowed to pass through a mosque, while a muharam procession can pass through a temple isnt this great secularism.

Filing false educational affidavit to the EC is fine I suppose.

Iam a Hindu, and if you say that by my saying so you call me communal so be it.

What happenned to the Nanavati commissions findings on the anti-sikh riots???

to many, it is not applicable to Congress.

Forget about our own assessment. There are multinational corporates waiting and assembled there to watch the election outcome. May I ask you why they should if they have no interest. The interest has been created and is there to be seen, which cannot happen without development.

When we can have an Italian controlling and who provided false affidavits about educational achievements or otherwise, this is in the blood.

One sided bashing is not on sir. If you read through Mr. Me_patriots post he has cast aspersions on you as well, as he has cast every Hindu as communal.

What is your reactions to the Anti-sikh riots sponsored by the Congress Goons.?

Dont worry. That day is not too far off.

You are right.

What is your reactions to the Anti-sikh riots sponsored by the Congress Goons.?

That is Newtons law!!

I know a few teachers who themselves need to understand their plus and minuses. Even they need to attend counseling sessions at least once in 3 months.

You have said it. Even if they utter anything it is considered communal. While ghastly terrorists activities are considered natural reactions by our pseudo-seculars.

When we can have an Italian controlling and who provided false affidavits, this is nothing.

Congress kha Chaval, Chawla kho

What about the Congress goons, involved in the anti-sikh riots??

How does one stop Afzal from being used as a pawn. The only way is to remove the pawn.

Congress has clearly gone behind the excuse by saying that most clemency cases go on for atleast 7 years.

Depends on the level of interaction and the sampling.

I know a few teachers who themselves need to understand their plus and minuses. Even they need to attend counseling sessions at least once 9in 3 months.

Blame game is the name of the game in politics and it is expected.

Then people will ask as to why no action has not been taken on thoise Congressmen who were responsible for the anti-sikh riots.

It is not law of land, but for the law makers, who break.

When you have people like the chawlas who are loyal servants of the dynasty, impartial conduct is beyond EC's realms.

Unfortunately that is the sad state of affairs, where any thing Hindu is communal while the minorities are pampered and their violent actions are considered as mere reactions.

Let the dynasty first not misuse the the pseudo-gandhi tag and rid the Congress from the clutches of the dynasty, the entire country will flourish.

The world sees through the eyes of our very own media.

Dont worry. Their first priority is to protect the lives of people like Afzal and take on isssue like Shorabudin.

You are right. The pseudo-seculars tie the hands of the intelligence hindering the clean-up process.

Can anything be more hypocritical than saying terrorism should be curtailed at all cost and then tying the hands of the intelligence by giving statements not to harass to appease a specific community.

It is the protective mentality as an appeasement policy, which is being questioned. I am sure if the encounter had been some one not belonging to a minority community, the issue would never have been taken up.

No one can question the Dynasty, especially after it has been re-christened with the Gandhi tag.

Well one takes what is favorable and ignores if not favorable.

Encounter by its very nomenclature is on the spot decision.

Oh yes. Well planned, well documented with a with a blue print only to be handed over to the terroists to escape.

And even if proved, they still move freely, thanks to the pampering by the pseudo-secular parties. Think of Afzal and you will know why encounters are required.

Clear acceptance of the divisive game played by the Congress.

Well what would be your reaction if the majority of the posts been against Modi??? Iam sure it would have been accepted as the mood of the nation I suppose.

There were several shows were Mr. Owaisi had a free hand using the power of his voice and the minority status.

Well what would be your reaction if the majority of the posts been against Modi??? Iam sure it would have been accepted as the mood of the nation I suppose.

How dis it come to such a state. It is only because of the tolerance.

What is happenning in Hindustan is de-hinduising the country with appeasement.

Atleast this time around there was some representation to hear the other side. In most times, the debate would be a one sided affair.

Twisting is the name of the game in politics sir. And every one does it.

What are the Congress and other so-called secular parties doing sir?

She always was. She wants to only hear what the power centers want.

May I ask you as to what the Congress is doing. Isnt it also polarising on communal lines?

Views cannot be restricted. Each has their views, may be right or may be wrong.

What is your grievance?

For a hungry man morsel of food is valuable. For a beggar a rupee is invaluable, for a rich man with no peace of mind, peace of mind is invaluable. So it depend.

What is food for one is poison for another. Depends upon the person who consumes.

When there is a constant Hindu bashing, tolerance gives way sir.

There has been no such celebrations. Please search the google and check for yourself.

Look at India as a whole, not to mention UP and Bihar, where Congress where ruling for several years. What is it that we have achieved.

Most know only the discovery of India by Nehru. The true history has been whitewashed.

What do we do with terrorist and terrorism who disturb the peace of a tolerrant society.

Soft hearts cannot contain terrorism.

Unfortunately he belongs to a community which has been pampered by the pseudo-seculars.

Annie Besant exposed the atrocities committed by the Moplah rebels in Malabar as a fearless journalist. She describes the rape in Malabar: 'Words fail to express my feelings of indignation and abhorrence which I experienced when I came to know of an instance of rape, committed by the rebels under Chembrasseri Thangal. A respectable Nair lady at Melathur was stripped naked by the rebels in the presence of her husband and brothers who were made to stand close by with their hands tied behind. When they shut their eyes in abhorrence, they were compelled at the point of a sword to open their eyes and witness the rape committed by the brute in their presence. I loathe even to write of such a mean action. This instance of rape was communicated to me by one of her brothers confidentially. There are several instances of such mean atrocities which are not revealed by people....

Thank you sir. It is not that I am not secular. I have been and will continue to oppose the pseudo-secular stances of some individuals and parties.

I will say, I agree with you 100% if that makes you happy.

It is clearly a drama enacted by the Chawlas of the EC.

Did you know, Moulana Abul Kalam Azad did not want partition. Maulana in his book "India Wins Freedom" has discussed the reason for his opposition. He was of the opinion that the creation of a separate Muslim state would divide the Muslim population and India would have fewer number of Muslims, thus dealing a blow to the process of Islamization of India, hence the opposition.

the average Muslim's religious belief that the Indian Muslims are living in 'DARUL HARAB' and not 'DAR-US-SALAM'. The pity is that a vast majority of them do not even know what is 'DARUL HARAB'. Darul-harab means land of the enemy. The Urdu dictionary defines it as a �State governed by a non-Muslim AND where the Ruler does not permit the Muslims to perform their religious duties�. The whole world knows that now in India no Muslim is ever prevented from performing his religious duties. All Muslims freely and enthusiastically celebrate all the religious festivals and are free to pray five (5) times a day wherever they desire and even in public places and on roads when the mosques get packed to capacity. Obviously then, no part of India is 'DARUL HARAB' in any way whatever. It is clear that Indian Muslims believe that if a country is not declared an Islamic State and is not governed by the Laws of Shariat, then it has to be viewed as 'DARUL HARAB'. Viewed in this light, the Muslims of India are no different from the Muslims of Pakistan and Bangladesh. The Prophet himself has defined 'DAR-US-SALAM' as �a country (place) where there is freedom to the Muslims to practice the fundamentals of Islam� Based on this definition, no enlightened Muslim can dispute the fact that India is a land of 'DAR-US-SALAM' only �

It is extremely difficult for a devil to act as a saint.

She may not, as the pseudo-tag of Gandhi which the dynasty has been clinging on to would diminish.

Just as elections are a public opinion, Modi has posed a question to the public regarding Shorabudin, and it is only the public response. The media has misrepresented facts.

What else can one expect from the pseudo-seculars, who have mortgaged the glorious culture and heritage to foreign cultures and religion.

Very correct. Opportunistic, manipulative, bastardised combination.

Well what else can one expect from Congress. The cast castes as their weapons. That is secularism of the Congress.

When the EC has beneficiaries like Chawla, how can standards be expected.

Well, the instructions from the Vatican.

Oh great secular analysis. And that is what Congress survives on.

Isnt that human tendency. When there is 100% agreement, the individual is happy, otherwise nasty comments emanate like shrapnels.

Now the constitution is itself at the mercy of the SONIA UPA and Ms Prathiba.

The pseudo-seculars would want to protect them. Arent they protecting Afzal, whio has been given the death sentence by the highest court.

Well the spineless can only say that from Delhi.

Just as many are fed up of Ms Maino.

The courts had given the verdict, and Afzal is still breathing. Why do we need courts.

It is because the Congress does not want the media to see those, for if the media sees those the public will see and that the Congress feels is harmful to its party.

What have the Congress been doing. One day they say that the gibberish utterance of Sonia "Maut Ka Saudagar" is not addressed against Modi and suddenly there is a statement that it was targetted against Modi. Isnt this double speak as well.

The EC will not. THey are stooges of the Congress. He only asked a question as to what should be done to a terrorists.

EC will send notices to those the congress instructs.

As you rightly said, none will have the guts to question any other religion other than hinduism. And you said the repercussion from them would be catastrophical, while all know that Hindus are tollerant as you have also indirectly stated.

Secular. Does any party practice true secularism. The balance is tilted towards vote banks only.

I think by the same logic we should say that all italians are Mafia dons.

In which case why does the community still want clemency to Afzal??

The train carnage was not an accident but a pre-meditated cold blooded murder. The people responsible have been identified and are not people who belong to any hindu outfits. Yes why do we have SC courts, when people like Afzal are still breathing, when the SC court had confirmed the death sentence.

Why are they not talking of Jagdish Tytler?

Can you the current concept of secularism, practiced by the so-called protectors of secularism.

What about Jaddish Tytler??

That is the level to which appeasement politics can go.

Why the hell do the police have encounter specialists.

No. The question that he raised was "what should be done to such a person"

Issues concerning minorities if fine. But in her case it is activism to protect terrorists of a specific minority.

It should be modified to "given the political system intervening in the judicial system."

Only when there is some tune can something be fine tuned. I think she can call herself terrorists rights activist.

The grasses in the lawns of the house which the dynasty has been clinging on to for almost 50 years, misusing the pseudo-Gandhi tag.

She has to as her NGO is funded from the gulf.

When the intelligence acts intelligently, it is immediately given a garb of harassment and we have the pseudo-seculars immediately giving statements asking the intelligence not to harass. This ties their hands and how will the intelligence function if such is the attitude of the so-called leaders.

You have missed out one. The Congress blaming the BJP.

Correct analysis. Theesta has her NGO funded for a specific task of protecting a specific community of terroists and funds I guess should be from the gulf.

May be she does not know the meaning. It probably would have been written in Italian, to be read out in Hindi.

What about the party joining hands with the regional party which had a hand in the assasination of Rajiv. What about the party which was responsible for the anti-sikh riots which was a genocide of a much larger scale.

That day will come only when the Pseudo-gandhi tag misused by the Congress is disowned.

Why only the electorate, even the leaders. But then false educational affidavits can be filed, like the one filed by Sonia.

Unfortunately the spineless Congress leaders dont think so. They for the sake of power cling to the dynasty.

Can we discuss the bible and what happenned to the life of Jesus between the age 17 to 33, and where can we find any reference to that period.

May be India will have a Columbian Bahu next.

The grasses in the lawns of the house which the dynasty has been clinging on to for almost 50 years, misusing the pseudo-Gandhi tag.

But he has the pseudo-Gandhi tag which the dynasty has been misusing.

A small correction. May be future plans "FOR CONGRESS Party"

Great. The highest court of the land had confirmed the death sentence to the terrorist Afzal guru. Where is he now. He should have been out of this world long before.

Iam highlighting the pseudo-secular practices. And please bear in mind that decent language is expected from learned people like you.

One eye witness had to go into hiding in a land outside for fear of being terminated. Now he has come out in the open, but will he be allowed to give his statement is a big question.

There have been a few Congress leaders who had the courage to oppose the dynasty and went missing in air-crashes!!!

Show me one politician who is not for the throne. The current so-called champion of aam admi, representative of the vatican wanted the throne of India, but could not, due to constitutional constraints and enacted a drama of supreme sacrifice. The person who did not trust living in India for 10 long years and was on a visit visa. The congressmen want power shedding their individuality and thriving on the pseudo-gandhi tag. What more can one want.

Paid slaves.

Sponsored..

What is happenning to the law which you are talking about regardinf Afzal Guru???

You are right. Arent their any political killings? What happened to Sanjay Gandhi, Scindia, Pilot etc...

Forget marginalisation. Have the minority come out openly to condemn terroists and terrorism. Have them come out with statements to hang Afzal immediately.

What about their pets if any.

Is it true only of Modi. Isnt it true of any politician. What has the Congress been doing for 60 years. Havent they misused the Pseudo-Gandhi tag to fool the gullible masses.

Yes some locally and some internationally.

It is because they are afraid of the backlash from a specific community and loosing their vote banks.

The parliamentarians had a Christmas get-together celebrations (All know the reasons), they have Ramzan get-together (All know the reasons), but I dont think they have a Dowali get-together celebrations.

It also appears that there is quota limit set for some on the number of posts while a few enjoy unconditional support.

Legalised by the pseudo-secular, minority appeasing congress through ordinances like the IMDT.

Is it true only of Modi. Isnt it true of any politician. What has the Congress been doing for 60 years. Havent they misused the Pseudo-Gandhi tag to fool the gullible masses.

May be to gain sympathy votes???

He will not. He is a coward and does not have the guts to do such creative works.

For how long can one bear a one side treacherous onslaught, especially when the other is not willing to look at the truce efforts.

They were not exclusive shows. It was part of a game plan and the Congress were side actors.

Is it any worse than the Pseudo-gandhi tag, which the Congress and the dynasty has been misusing for several decades.

Backdoor campaign. Benefits will be returned in kind.

Havent Congress fooled around for 60 long years with their oratory skills.

Please review the comments of St. Xavier and revert with your views.

Where are the Tehelkas (The Hell Ka Sathi) when it comes to Congress corrupt goons.

The minority appeasement politics will not take any drastic action as they will loose their vote banks.

It is the other way. By inviting Taslima, he will be only loosing the Muslim votes is it not?

If that becomes a habbit, it does not require reminders.

By that logic those who converted to other faiths, cant be trusted. All muslims and christians in India where Hindus by birth.

When we can have italian moles flaunting in this country, planting a mole in the party is no big deal.

Please remove this topic, if you donot want any meaningful discussions.

May I have your kind comments on the comments of St. Xavier. In case you want to know what iam referring to please let me know.

In a way those who converted to Islam during the Mughal period where cowards. And who are their descendants???

Oh yes. The other Bangladeshi illegal immigrants are protected by hasty ordinances like the IMDT, promulgated by the pseudo-seculars led by the Congress.

So you agree that there is no secularism in any part of India, except pseudo-secularism.

Only when there is something called strict secularism practice, can one say that secularism is being challenged. The current practice is pseudo-secularism.

Very true. Let him try his creative works on his own religion. Iam sure he will be hunted and haunted by his own religious community.

Oh what is their in a spelling. Yes misued by the politicians. And who are the targets of the misuse. Without the tacit acceptance of the minorities, where will be the cause for misuse.

Oh come on. It is only because of the highly tolerant hindu society that foreign religions have been allowed to survive, thrive and multiply. How many gulf countries allow other religions to propagate.

Oh yes. Despite the court notices that Cone speakers should not be used and yet the call of Prayer (which has to be in every one and does not require a reminder) still uses the cone speakers. And that is the level of appeasement the pseudo-seculars can go.

What M F Hussain did and is still alive shows the tolerance. The whole world burnt when the Danish cartoon issue came up. Your thoughts please.

Sanjay is the beneficiary. Beinf the son of late Congress MP Mr. Sunil Dutt, brother of current sitting MP Priya dutt and what more does one want to get all the benefits from the political circles.

The CBI gets its instructions from the the center. What happenned to the Mr. Q case? What happenned to the Taj corridor scam involving mayawati.

Sanjay is the beneficiary. Beinf the son of late Congress MP Mr. Sunil Dutt, brother of current sitting MP Priya dutt and what more does one want to get all the benefits from the political circles.

The CBI gets its instructions from the the center. What happenned to the Mr. Q case? What happenned to the Taj corridor scam involving mayawati.

Mr. moderator, it is not fair that this post of mine got rejected, but whereas some one calling me names have been hosted. Iam posting the message again, to see if there is fairness in this forum. PLease track the thread properly. Mr. Nariman's response of confusion is to Mr. Gale. Hope you understand. Who is mentally sick and who is steady is obvious.

Mr. Moderator, anything derogatory about this post for it to be rejected repeatedly. Let me try one last time and if you feel that it is to be rejected, I know the reasons. The bride's parents are also equally responsible. The greed for latching on to an NRI groom blocks everything else. Even for buying an asset whether fixed or movable people spend a lot efforts to verify the credibility, and for their own duaghters welfare if they do not engage in proper verification process, there is no point in shifting the blame on the govt.

What is the Congress doing now at the center to stay in power?

The unpublished information from the speech of Rahul Gandhi during the recent Congress summit. Gandhi told the Congress that growing opium must be made more profitable by the Finance Ministry by fixing a higher price for the poppy crop. Opium can quickly be converted to heroin, which destroys the health of its consumer, besides promoting crime. Second, Gandhi told the CWC that there is nothing wrong in abandoning Khadar cloth, which hitherto was compulsory for the Congress party workers. Gandhi informed the CWC that to drink ‘a peg or two’ of alcoholic liquor is nothing wrong. Now the unsaid, there is nothing wrong for a Congress worker to keep a foreign passport, especially Italian under a modified spelling of one’s own name for use in emergencies and for anonymous foreign travel to obscure places like Cayman Island for banking operations, and purchasing participatory notes on hawala laundered funds. t is not wrong for a Congress worker or leader to get married to a Colombian girl holding Venezuelan passport anonymously in the island of Tenerife in Canary Islands, and not tell the public about it, even if the girl is a daughter of a heroin peddler.

Congress will be very happy with the presidents rule continuing till the end of the term as they will be indirectly governing the state.

I thought that the commandments where decided even before the 20 months reign of the JD(S) with BJP support. That Deve Gowda gave 12 commandments is in itself a deviation from the original agreement as there is no need for commandments to be spelt out now had there been no change.

We will wait for the verdict!!

Oh. Some will say that it is history!!!

The funniest part is Deve Gowda wanted BJP to sign on a stamp paper. With conditions tangential to what was agreed at the start of JD(S) 20 month rule.

Who is Robert Vadra anyway?

Can one go about boasting that one has committed only one murder while the other has committed a series of murders.?

The bride's parents are also equally responsible. The greed for latching on to an NRI groom blocks everything else. Even for buying an asset whether fixed or movable people spend a lot efforts to verify the credibility, and for their own duaghters welfare if they do not engage in proper verification process, there is no point in shifting the blame on the govt.

Not my illusions sir. This is the reason Congress has spelt for delaying the elections.

Dont you think the concerned Govt. authorities who certified should also be brought to book.

Absolutely.

The Congress has indicated that do not want any elections till March as they fear that BJP will win through Sympathy votes. So prolong the issue they could do anything.

We will have to wait and watch.

Is there a degree in murder. A murder is a murder, whether worse or worst.

List one in current day poltics who is not power hungry. They are not here for any social service, but to make money for themselves and their generations.

What if the politicians are their associates themselves the culprit???

But who is the President. A pawn of the Congress.

There are certain things which cannot be taught. It comes from within.

May not happen if Congress joins hands with the betrayer Deve Gowda.

But the cheat is on a mission to Delhi and is supposedly discussing with Congress.

Please do not resort to such language on individual and rather stay on the topic. This does not reflect well on your learned status.

What happenned to the Hindi Chini Bhai, Bhai and who was the creator!!!

We need to be cautious. US had earlier gone back on their deal, and left the infrastructure created at least by a couple of decades. Secondly we are exposing our national security to the CIA and the intelegence agency of the US.

Nothing comes free. The US are no charity organization. They have their interest in mind first. Their interference in our national and international policy is already in the open. They dictate our relationship with other countries as seen in the Iran case. One should also not forget that this very same US ditched us in an earlier deal after india had incurred several 1000 crores on nuclear infrastructure that us left us behind by a couple of decades and it took us several years to revive those. Moreover we are exposing our national security to the CIA, by way of US inspection of our nuclear sites.

But unfortunately the electorate will not realise the burden that they will have to carry, interms election expenditure and will end up coming with a split decision and hung assembly, leading to such illegal relationships, pre-marital live in relationships and divorces.

The Congress will Split and then suck.

Nothing wrong. They are quite capable of using the family history to cover the stunt to gain sympathy votes.

Well this should apply to international flights as well is it not.

It is a shame that the Congress party has become a private property of the dynasty and no other more capable leaders are considered for the post. If we are to say that there is none, then it is a shame that in the second largest populous country with a good history of producing powerful leaders we are not able to find one outside the Gandhi tagged family.

Isnt this the same strategy adopted by all opposition parties in all the other states as well.

The Cm even went to the extent of saying that CPM cadres were right and returning back in the same coin. If this is ok with the CM of WB, why balme only Modi.

If he does that he will no longer be the Railways minister and all other ministers in this Combine will also loose their portfolios.

Only to protect the CPM cadres who have entrenched themselves there.

Who doe not want power. What is the Congress doing with the left. Succumbing to all the pressures applied by Left. If they believe in their policies and trust they are doing it for the good of the nation, they should not fall a prey to the left just to retain and be in power.

Isnt the same strategy adopted by all opposition parties in all other states as well.

What did the Congress do in Goa and in Jharkhand not too long ago.

Touring with parties does not necessarily mean a party sponsored worker. The IAS officers are forced to travel along with the party jokers.

There are many in India who think for China rather than our own country.

I guess the Left will swear by China and say Dalai Lama does not represent the genuine aspirations of the Tibetans.

A double bracket!!!

To be with LEFT or be left without is a choice which congress has to make.

Congress cannot open their mouth as their mouth has been shut by the bait of LEFT support or they will be left without support.

It is only amber. Both have bought time for the mid term elections.

Quite right. As the CPM cadres have occupied the place. The CRPF has been sent to protect them from outsiders.

Not to educate from the "Discovery Of INdia", but the true History of the struggle.

Oh. The entire blame has been shifted to Mamata Bannarjee. The CPM caders are innocent has already started floating on this MB.

Any abetment to a crime is punishable. As Lalu wanted MOdi along with Advani to be arrested, the same should apply to WB CM as well.

CPM is innocent!!!. Genocide portrayed and permanently etched. A mission completed.!!!

Beautiful thought process.

Did not Narasimha rao do it when he was made the PM. The JMM Bribery Case was one of many high profile political scandals that errupted during the 1990s reign of PV Narasimha Rao

When the entire country has been taken for a ride by the Congress in the last 60 years, this is nothing. The teacher and the student.

Could it be a barter between Congress and CPM for support for the N-deal.

What about the Congress leaders who participated in the anti-Sikh riots??? What should be done to them???

Lucky to see your post. Please be rest assured it will disappear as soon as it came.

That is pseudo-secularism anti Hindu attitude for all to see.

Anybody except Modi can make such statements. And that is pseudo-secularism for all to see.

Everyday in a childs life should be pleasant and allowed to enjoy the childhood with no strings.

Congress is known for the cunning act of destabilisng any govt.

Please read Mr. samirdas2304 post titled "Gods Fury" in this board.

The minute the center does that, the UPA will be thrown out of power. The power of the left hander!!

Had it been from a non UPA ally state, all creative hell would have been let loose.

A small correction. Indira was in power then, while Mamata is not in power. So difficult to digest the logic.

Then UPA will loose its power. That is the power of the left without responsibility. The UPA is under the stanglehold of the LEFT.

Spot on sir. You hit the nail on the head.

Hugh!!! that was scorching.

CPM is always right, everybody else are wrong.

Money, money money, it so funny, in the rich mans world. Money makes the world go round.

The post count increases but no new messages are listed. Is there a bug or a bug bias against specific MB user posts

Do the loot arson and killings and claim peace, is what the CPM are resorting to.

As far as Indian cricket and the public memeory is concerned experience has no place. The rise and fall are like the waves, with no logic.

CPI(M) Supporters indulged in gunfire, arson and looting in Nandigram. Armed men set houses on fire and went on a looting spree on Sunday night. Well this is probably one of those stray incidents I guess!!!

The Tinanmen massacre in China, the massacre during the Stalin regime in Russia and several other countries controlled by communists are I guess forgotten chapters in the anals of history by the communists.

Tiananmen Square, Genocide during the regime of Stalin in USSR are only samples.

As far as Indian cricket and the public memeory is concerned experience has no place. The rise and fall are like the waves, with no logic.

A complete political revamp can only save India from terror.

He nor the other spineless Congress knows no different path. The tag of the Gandhi (not the mahatma) is their only path to fool the majority gullible illiterate public.

Wether the Modi Govt. and its supporters are painting it rosy, the others are definitely painting it dark.

But the left is standing by UPA as support. Can it in any way deviate from the diktat of the left.

They have already atempted at taking control of the Indian nuclear system.

To be more precise, the nuances of Indian selection panel and its politics.

As a test player he definitely can stand on his own.

He is claimed to be a parsi, but in actual a muslim.

He does not know any other path, which was made apparent by his immature statement about Bangladesh being because of the nasty dynasty during the UP elections

The entire country has been fooled by the country for 60 years using the tag of Gandhi (not the mahatma), this is only a miniscule issue.

Most Islamic states have history of anarchy with scant respect for democracy.

True if it is not like the one imposed by Indira Priyadarshini.

Name one modern day politician who has been selfless.

Mushraf has always been in 2 clothes. He is the modern day Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde.

What are our leaders doing. They have not even condemned it till date.

I hope what you say comes true, in that the Gandhi tag looses its significance and impacy.

Oh no. You missed the most important qualification that he has to be a leader in Indian politics. The tag of the Gandhi (not the mahatma).

In this country anybody who has the Gandhi tag (not the mahatma) can be called a leader. How unfortunate, that we cannot find an alternate leader away from the Gandhi dynasty.

This stance from the UPA is out of the coersion from the left who always lean towards China.

In the case of Sharia law it has a special place given by the Congress.

He did not know what BJP was when his party held power for 20 months!!!

Dont they have a pre-poll alliance??? Isnt their seat sharing discussions held before the elections?? The post poll re-alignment come only when their pre-poll judgement on alliances fail and dont get the desired setas to form a govt. It is Then that the greed for power comes into play and all sorts of crazy alliance are arrived at, cheating the public who have voted based on the pre-poll alliances.

True. Misusing the Gandhi tag. Great way to end the post.

I wish to remind you that Bihar was under the clutches for more than 20 years with Lalu sir.

Is it that the Thelka Camera works only when focussed on BJP? Is it that Congress goons and all other parites and its politicians are clean??

He only spoilt the show in UP by passing imature statements about the dynasty responsible for the birth of Bangladesh.

Isnt the left using the power of its support to blackmail the UPA?

Mr. Nariman, I suggest you will have to first come to your senses before you present the way you put your thoughts.

Whether inside or outside. The support was provided to the Kumaraswamy Govt. And is not morally right for BJP to expect the same support from JD(S), especially after an agreement was reached.

How about the so-called followers of Mohammed???

Those who go abroad ditching the country after their subsidised education are also no better than the politicians.

Arent they using blackmailing tactics. Isnt that misuse of power (without responsibility)

It is human for every man and a woman to go inside and do it.

They had done that for the 20 months in K'Taka.

The NGOs, the Human Rights activists will all start a proxy war against such steps.

But will the Govt. support such ruling from the SC??

The dual citizenship is going to sky rocket the land and property prices as these NRI will pay any price to acquire the property of their choice as they have the money and the residing Poor and middle class will not be able to acquire any property.

This post should have gone to the "Dual citizenship" topic.

Oh Yes. unlike the supreme sacrifice!!!

Even now they have a special status preference and no one can dispute that. Both constitutionally and un-constitutionaly. Unfortunately the courts themselves have been stating that there are several parallel religious courts being run, which is to be checked.

Power without responsibility.

Unfortunately the courts themselves have been stating that there are several parallel religious courts being run, which is to be checked.

The Govt. has not come out with this ruling. It is the SC which has passed this ruling.

Anything wrong with this thought. The dual citizenship is going to sky rocket the land and property prices as these NRI will pay any price to acquire the property of their choice as they have the money and the residing Poor and middle class will not be able to acquire any property.

But will the Govt. support such ruling from the SC??

The committee members have a paid vacation at the cost of the tax payers.

The NGOs, the Human Rights activists will all start a proxy war against such steps.

The polticians are more interested in their winning than the interest of the public winning. They create chaos and confusion for their survival and these militants are well aware of the politics in India.

Very correct. Ultimately the people are the ones who are fooled by post election formations.

They dont have a stand at all. They cant even stand on their own legs.

Birds of the same feather flock together.

Any Idea why the BJP withdrew the support to the HDK govt earlier. It is because JD(S) in their greed to stay in power, failed to comply with the agreement of power transfer after their 20 month tenure.

The EC is the stooge of the politicians in power. Constitution amendments are passed by the parliament and approved by the President. Unless we have a strong President who is the custodian of our constitution, nothing can save this country. Unfortunately the post of President has also become a political one and obviously amendments to the constitution will be done in a partisan way, with the approval of the president.

It is an accepted fact that regional parties have a say in power politics and one cannot ignore it.

There is a difference of opinion within the 2 sects. One of the sect head has acknowledged the SC ruling as good.

But in our country of pseudo-seculars, some are given special status.

The SC order of making it mandatory for all marriages to be registered is being opposed by the Muslim Personal Law board. Isnt this ridiculous. What is wrong? In what way are they special to have their own laws overriding the law of the land??

She was on a visit for almost 10 years after her marriage to Rajiv. She did not trus the country of her in-laws.

What foreign currency? People who go out, seek citizenship in their adopted land and do not send any foreign exchange. It is only those who go to the gulf and who any way cannot get citizenship there are the people who send money back.

You are right. They sucked the blood out of the tax payers money and left for greener pastures.

People who graduate out of premier institutes like the IITs and govt. Medical colleges enjoy subsidised education, the money paid by the resident tax payers. If these people leave without serving the nation and not paying local tax, it is definitely wrong. The benefit of subsidised education is reaped by some other country.

The media give attention to certain specific incidents, which the political powers want.

But do you know how many such Hindu boys have gone missing. They are not to media attentin deliberately.

The quintessence of rational- Leftism is that spiritual knowledge is superstitious and secular ignorance is rational; character is superstitious and debauchery is rational; chastity is superstitious and prostitution of mind, body, heart and soul is rational; discipline is superstitious and indiscipline is rational; accepted truth is superstitious and blatant untruth is rational, refinement is superstitious and banality is rational; justice is superstitious and rapacity is rational, counsels of the wise and the good are generally superstitious and the flattery of knaves particularly rational.

I hope this time atleast this message gets posted. The dual citizenship is going to sky rocket the land and property prices as these NRI will pay any price to acquire the property of their choice as they have the money and the residing Poor and middle class will not be able to acquire any property.

The precedences and the fear of being indicted will not allow Mushraf to shed the control over the army. Benazit has had a clandestine understanding with Mushraf which is seen in the many cases against her being withdrawn. So democracy will be only on paper. It will only be pseudo-democracy with army controlling.

No party will work for the national cause. Congress Goons especially have projected a pseudo-secular policy which has done more harm to the nation right since Independence.

We should first look at cleaning up our own home before we started to look at others.

A sleeping Giant. "Khumbkarna"

Just like the supreme commander of the Congress, who is building coterie of yes man of a specific community to promte its development.

And may I ask who is protecting the Accused and sentenced to death by the highest court of India??

Unfortunately she has had a secret deal with Mushraff and the effect is seen in all he cases against her withdrawn. With Mushraff being undemocratically elected how can one expect Democracy with MS Bhutto comming in??

She cannot as our constitution also does not permit. But with a Weak president primarily elected with the support of Ms Sonia anything could be done to our constitution. Section 5 of the Citizenship Act of 1955 clearly says the rights and privileges allowed to foreigners who become citizens by application (not by birth) will only be those as are granted to Indians in the country of the concerned person's origin (in this case Italy). Which means that since an Indian cannot be the Prime Minister of Italy even if he is granted Italian citizenship, then Indian law says that an Italian who is granted Indian citizenship cannot be the PM of India.

People who have enjoyed subsidised education from premier institutes, will have to repay the subsidy benefit if they do not render service in India.

The Indians who stay back after receiving education in India do payback by way of Income Tax. The ones who leave for greener pastures after enjoying the subsidised education, will have to pay back the subsidy component.

Even Countries like Russia have a policy of declassifying documents. Unfortunately the Govt. of India has no such policy. The fear of the Pseudo Gandhi tag being tarnished is preventing having any such policy.

Straight and unbiased thought.

Crawling and creeping to be in power. Spineless leaders who cannot stand on their own and wil have to fall back on the pseudo tag of Gandhi.

A sleeping Giant. "Khumbkarna"

Nurtured to de-stabilise hindustan, and reaping the benefits in home grown soil or may be testing the skills acquired and Pakistan being its test ground.

Just like the supreme commander of the Congress, who is building coterie of yes man of a specific community to promte its development.

Allowed to grow and home grown are really deadly.

And may I ask who is protecting the Accused and sentenced to death by the highest court of India??

When we are not able to do anything in our home soil of those terroists nurtured and brainwashed there, it is all the more easy for them over there. If they do anything to stop these attacks there have our problems will also be solved.

Our politicians want, to divert the attention of the public.

Congress was the chief architect of a demon called Bhindranwale to counter the Akalis. May be another is being nurtured.???

The fact that she has been clemency in all her earlier cases is in itself a barter agreement between her and Mushraff. Mushraff being a dictator and not a democratically elected President, how can she bring democracy.

People participation??? Havent we seen whistle blower, blown away, the likes of Manjunath and Satyendu Dubey...

You are right. And the people who frame the laws frame it in such a way that there are loop holes and they are the ones who want to flout it.

Selective amnesia.

If the entire muslim population had been pushed to Pakistan then so much of blood bath could have been saved in Hindustan.

Yes true. Congress have given a meaning to secularism and all know what it is.

Thank you learned gentleman.!!!

No sir, certain Congress goons have been identified in this carnage. When I have quoted an instance, you conveniently state it as confusion in issues.

Devils advocate sir.

Feroz Khan. Muslim grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman after converting her to Islam. This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv being a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze was Feroze Khan before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes. Feroze's mother's family name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this was changed to Gandhi, sometime before his wedding with Indira, by an affidavit.

In which case the Gujarath riots should not be atributed them is it not??

Yes, Globalisation in religion too. A stiff global competition is on between the 2 global religions, christianity and ISlam, trying to subvert the smaller religions.

Definitely not by passing acts to legalise the illegal immigration.

It is as otherwise they are afraid that they will be incurring the wrath of a specific community.

It has been thankless, only because it has been pseudo-secular and not truly secular.

Good response.

Sure I partially agree, but after the attacks especially after the 9/11, the stringent security checks have certainly reduced and almost zero till date in the US. India has been too soft just for the simple reason that they may incur the wrath of a specific minority, thus damaging their vote bank.

Soft targets because of soft weak kneed, pseudo-secular, vote bank principled politicians.

Who enacted the IMDT act despite SC ruling against it?

On an annual basis just as the Gujarath riots? Never. Please let me know when it was last screened.??

As per Tagore's statement in his own words and I quote "I had frankly asked many Muslims whether, in the event of any Mohammedan power invading India, they would stand side by side with their Hindu neighbours to defend their common motherland, I can definitely state that such men as Mr.Mohammed Ali have declared that under no circumstances is it permissible for any Mohammden whatever be his country to stand against any Mohammadan".

Maulana Mohammed Ali who paid this 'noble' (!!) tribute to Mahatma Gandhi in 1924 in Aligarh and Ajmer: 'However pure Mr. Gandhiji's character may be, he must appear to me from the point of view of religion inferior to any Mussalman, even though he be without character'. An year later when he was questioned at a public meeting in Lucknow, the immortal and irreplaceable Maulana Mohammed Ali cheerfully accepted and even 'improved' (!!) upon his previous command performance by saying: Yes, according to my religion and creed, I do hold an adulterous and a fallen Mussalman to be better than Mahatma Gandhi. That is religion over national pride for you.

If you are trying feigning ignorance, nothing can be done.

The Focussed media coverage of incidents on Non-Congress govts, while the Hyderabad Blasts was given a go by.

The portrayal of Gujarath riots by the media, commerating anniversaries, but none for the Godhra train carnage and the victims who died. Isnt this solid proof enough of my contention.

Unfortunately this is what has been the picture that has been portrayed since Independence.

Have you seen the likes of Owaisi and his attitude? Let me ask a straight forward question. Have the so called moderates, come out in the open and condemned such acts. Never and never will they ever.

They know that our politicians are impotent and that no action will be taken which will hurt the minority sentiments wether from a citizen or an illegal immigrant. The statements from polticians of the likes of Shivraj Patil, Sonia etc to investigating agencies not to harass a specific community is ample evidence. Such statements tie the hand of the investigating agencies. A genuine investigation will be portrayed as harassment leading to loss in vote bank, which these weak kneed polticians dont want.

Unfortunately that is the history from the DIscovery of India!!!

Allow free entry to Bangladeshis and enact laws to protect illegal immigrants. Open up the POK for the soc alled Kashmiris to return. This is what will be the benefit thanks to the UPA.

The laws are there. It is the implementation without fear or favor which is lacking. When politicians interfere for their personal benefits, that these laws are diluted and the effectiveness fades away.

Brainwashed by the pseudo-secular parties led by the Congress.

Most must be INTERPOL for such Sherlock Homes type deduction.

That mus be considered the greatest joke of the century.

Protectors of Hinduism from pseudo-secular out to destroy Hinduism.

You should be in INTERPOL for such a authentic investigative statement.

As usual just to cast aspersions on the Hindus, Knowing pretty well that our pseudo-seuclar parties led by Congress would gladly accept.

How many hindu partners have been killed or gone missing have missed the Media attention as well.

Convenience. When in need, they are not communal and when wnat to discard, they become communal. What perverted logic.

Let them make it clear whether they are only anti-Nuclear deal or Anti-US as a whole.

There were tougher and bold people who fought for the freedom in a way different from the Mahatma also. Please dont forget the Bhagath Singhs and the Nethajis.

Non-Violent protest against AK 47s and other weapons of mass destruction!! that should be considered a serious joke.

Today there is only one Gandhi and the Dynasty tagged Gandhi. It is a shame that India has to be represented by an Italian to talk in the UN General Assembly on Mahatma Gandhi.

Absolutely. Congress do not have any principles nor Deve Gowda. JD(S) was a partner with BJP when they threw Congress out. Now BJP has become all of a sudden communal. What dirty politics.

especially the Cunning Deve Gowda, who enacted a drama of going against the son at the time of power sharing agreement.

WE HINDUS WANT OUR PLACE AND HONOUR. WE DONT WANT ANY ONE TO COMMENT ON OUR FAITH.

India has been a slave to the Mughals and Britishers. This slave mentality continuous even after Independence to be under the heel of a phirangi.

In fact the Govt. wants such illegal immigrants from bangladesh and other neighbouring countries who are anti-hindustan, and can even go to the extent of bringing ordinances to protect them.

The art taught by Indira Priyadarshini.

Blame the Human resource ministry since Independence for not providing a proper perception of History in schools. Talking of dry days, if one has political power and support of the police there are no dry days.

"Any weapon is only as dangerous as the user.", true. But who judges that. MOst think that they are perfect. Even a mentaly unstable person claims as stable.

It is how one perceives. The dos and donts are laws. And the laws which says 'dont' are given a different name called ban. Can we not rephrase some thing which is perceived as dont or Ban, be put as "If one does a specific act, it is punishable"

The majority yes. Have a democratic count.

Prakash Karat in his speech relayed by one of the news channels has said, that the left would have not provided the UPA govt. support, had there been any mention in the Common minimum program about strategic allaince with the US. So what ever be the contents of the Nuclear deal, even if drafted favourable to India, would have been opposed. Isnt this a clear mental bloc and a pr China stance.

Dr Jekyl and Mr. Hyde!!!

After yours!!!

In which case can every one be allowed to possess any weapon may be even a rocket launcher or may be even a nuclear bomb??/

Do you mean to say that there need be no laws?

In a one on one attack, both assume that each is trying to defend from the other.

Mental stability always and at all times is required. It has been proved scientifically that the even the sanest of individuals do at times reach a state of mental imbalance though temporarily.

Iam not ducking the question. Iam trying derive the conclusion just like in a math theorem based on your response. It has a definite relationship. Please answer, and from there on a logical answer can be derived.

One should stand alone and be firm and should not have a mob support mentality.

She is in the company of crooks.

I Posted a response which has come and gone.

Yes you hit the nail on the head. Appeasement policies.

Let me ask you a question. Do we require an army, and state police machinery?

You have answered it yourself by stating "Banned"

A discount is different from subsidy.

Mob psychology. Stand alone and stand firm, then one will be respected.

I know and I have posted several posts on the earlier withdrawals. I have also indicated the dis-comfort with regards to deals with the US. Mine was only a poser on what would have been the Lefts reaction had been China.

Good suggestion for a new market which will have immense potential.

Great post. Really surprising that this post got hosted.

Yes circumcised by the hindu hating, Islamic embracing and christianity covetting Left and Pseudo-seculars.

Relatively yes. Most states are.

A planned corporation is busy. Best ignored.

Mr. Rajaye_hind had earlier posted in this very same forum topic titled "Re: Re: hindutav and indian culture" in response to another MB user "mul3144(Toronto,Canada, and I quote "Friend on this MB everyone has his right of opinion and expression, what he thinks is right for him he has posted, what you think is right you have posted, but in a way no one has any right to be in such an aggression to pull down anyone. I have my right, you have your right, and he or anyone has their rights. He deffinately is not living in the other century, his opinions are right in a way."

I think Mr. Rajaye_hind had posted an excellent thought which I would wish to quote and I am sure he will not object as I have given him the credit. " Friend on this MB everyone has his right of opinion and expression, what he thinks is right for him he has posted, what you think is right you have posted, but in a way no one has any right to be in such an aggression to pull down anyone. I have my right, you have your right, and he or anyone has their rights. He deffinately is not living in the other century, his opinions are right in a way."

The Raghevandra Ashram in Karnataka, the Ramana Maharishi Ashram in Tamilnadu, feed everyday thousands of poor and have several educational institutions run by them.

What would have been the lefts reaction if it had been China instead of the US, all other parameters remaining the same??

In the case of the shirt purchase, the transaction is completed on barter concept (cash and carry).

But the support is there from and MP sister, leading with the high command in the Congress and the impact is seen in he getting a bail on a frivolous reason of having not received the judgement copy.

Forced circumcision by the Islamic Embracing and christianity covetting LEft and the Pseudo-seculars.

I guess hate campaigns are taking place across others as well.

But the child may not know that in an earlier instance, US backtracked in a simialr deal after several crores were invested in Nuclear infrastructure and India was back by several decades and had to spend a couple of decades to get back to main stream.

Liberalisation and globalisation is not by itself the cause, but the implementation process without proper checks and balances is the cause.

TYpical commie mentality. The temples and trusts do a lot of social service from the contribution of donors. Why dont you have a positive thinking and ascribe this as donation for social service done by the temple as otherwise if he does the same as an independent service with that money, he probably be praised by some and abused by many which probably he did not want.

"Today's Minority is tomorrows Majority", dangerous. We could be an Islamic state and no communism will work. Agreed CPI(M) is a political party in India, but also do have foreign policies and in the case of LEFT it is slant towards comrade nations.

Who is at fault if your parents have not informed you, that the education you would be receiving is subsidised. Secondly even if they had informed, would you have been in a position to judge then, as to whether you should opt for it or not.

I guess the same can be expected from an Hardcore anti as well.

Werent you informed by your parents that the education is subsidised by the govt.

Reason for release, copy of judgement not received. It is ironic that the news is flashed the very next minute through the media, and we have a lame excuse and deliberately so of having not received a copy of the judgement. Pathetic state of affairs. Had it been some one else, the judgment copy probably would have reached the hands of the convict, even before the judge delvers the judgement in the court room.

Pseudo-secularism is what is being practiced.

Why are you again and again insisting that Vasudebbanarjee is not you. Have I ever said that that the 2 IDs are the same.

They enjoy power without responsibility!!!

The process of registration is only to identify the weapon that could have been used in a crime and thereby relating the weapon to the individual.

Deal is fine provided there is gaurantee of support for a minimum period. No restrictions on nuclear testing, and non-interference in our internal and foreign policy.

But we have had a bitter experience once earlier, wherein US suddenly withdrew, leading to the infrastructure invested going waste and led us back by atleast a couple of decades to revive.

If the left parties anti-nuclear stance is genuine, it is fine, but if it is out of sheer anti-america policy, then one has to think twice. What if the same deal had been with china. Would the left parties have opposed? Iam pretty sure they would not have opposed their masters.

It is like an interest free loan and you are expected to repay the principle in instalments. Did you have an exclusive teacher for each subject at your home. In that case what you say is fine.

A pendulum swings to either side.

Well any one be happy if all their needs are satisfied, but kept in an isolated cell with no scope for interaction with the rest of the world?

Well said.

Thanks for your certification, which will go into the trash can.

I only respond to the post with my views and is independent of the member.

One has to be very carefull with USA. We have had bitter experience earlier. All the infrastructre that have gone should not go waste and we are forced to a couple of decades behind?

China is definitely happy at the situation with regards to the N-Deal in troubled waters. Their mouth piece has done a wonderful job, and they will be happy that their investments have not gone waste.

How many know about the Hyde Act. Why has not the govt. entered into a debate on contentious issues if any and clarified. Isnt it the moral responsibility of the parlimentarians to dispel public confusions?

Why did the left allow the agreement to come this far. They should have walked out much earlier even when the PM gave his first speech in the parliament. Has there been any change from what was presented at the first instance and now. Anyway let us wait and see if the national interest as claimed by the left takes precedence or their own clinging to power remains in the fore-front. More importantly, China is happy at current state of affairs, as regards the N-Deal, not because of their interest in India, but in their own self interest. For this the Left seems to be happy as they have made their guru happy.

It is not wrong to possess an AK 47. But also depends on the capability and rationality of the person possessing. Can a person of unstable state of mind be given posession of such weapons. That is why the licensing process comes into play.

Subsidised education. An engineer coming out of IIT etc. A doctor comming oout of Govt. run medical colleges, Primary and secondary education from schools receiving govt. grants and subsidies. Public Transport etc.

It is for maintenance, redevelopment and additional infrastructure.

It all depends on the kind of subsidies, that you may or may not have enjoyed right from the day you entered this world to today. I cannot give an explanation unless one has the full background.

Is that a script for a new movie to be acted by Sanjay after his release??/

Great timing!!!

The dynasty has fooled the nation using the tag of the Mahatma, knowing the mindset of the many fools, who donot use their brains and crawl for survival.

Ignore. Some people know not what is posed.

Brilliant logic. Must get a Nobel prize for deriving this fantastic algorithm. What about MIM, SIMI, DEOBAND and the Fatwas isssued by parallel Sharia courts???

Whether the left is genuine or not is a different matter. China is happy that the N-deal is in trouble.

Slave to the white skin is a legacy from the Britishers. Arent we ashamed that we donot have a good home grown Congress leader to lead our country and that we have to depend on a foreigner. Shame on the other Congress leaders, who donot have a spine of their own.

Fooled the country with a tag of the mahatma and dynastic rule continues. We Indians cannnot ever getaway from the slave mentality to a white skin. The legacy left the britishers.

In which case, can every one possess an AK 47??

Dont get confused between sympathetic word and the actual facts. If that be so, why did the judge give a 6 year jail term. All the judge said after the sentencing was to give him a few sympathatic words. Even that was not waranted, but may be he had fears of a backlash from hooligan fans of his, and gave a cover for himself as protection.

I fully agree that it is an individual decision. Any way our politicians will only mi-appropriate the funds. The taxes that are payed to the govt. if utilised properly can by itself solve most of the issues.

Showing consistent good character cannot absolve him of the crime committed. If a concession is shown on this pretext, it will set a precedence for all criminal to commit a crime and then show repentence to claim the benefit of leniency.

If that be so, why did the judge give a 6 year jail term. All the judge said after the sentencing was to give him a few sympathatic words. Even that was not waranted, but may be he had fears of a backlash from hooligan fans of his, and gave a cover for himself as protection.

Democracy ruled by a dynasty!!!

Also an amazing fact that it is the only democracy following a dynastic rule.

India is the only democracy run by generations of a dynasty.

Sanjay tho hai hi, pur BABA tho nahin.

Is that a conduct certification from any authorised ahency???

What about the others in this case, who had also to wait for 14 long agonising years. Why so sympathy for Sanjay alone. Why not for others as well. Moreover, once cannot get away from punishment after committing a crime, stating realisation os past mistakes. A precedence will be set if done so.

India is probably the only democratic nation with a dynastic rule for generations.

Urban development is taking place in an unplanned manner leading to chaotic situation. Road infrastructure development is the least of the prirotiy. Whereas the rural development is not taking place at all.

Only democratic country to have generations of dynastic rule.

If people pay tax properly and do not hoard black money, and if the tax collected is utilised with no mis-appropriation from the govt. India could well be on the road to becoming one of the richest and developed country.

Strong fundamentals of education, moral and ethical values and the tradition and culture of the country will provide a social security to the nation and by that security to all citizens.

Please understand the case against Monica and the status of the case before comparing with the case agaisnt Sanjay where the judgement has been delivered.

He seems to have acted pretty well in real life as well, gaining the sympathy just to protect himself.

And by some media, who have been bought over.

No sir. The punishment as per TADA act is 10 years. Moreover he has served only 18 months. That is not enough for the crime he has committed.

Good strategy for criminals. Commit-repent-and ask for pardon!!!

Is that a conduct certification from some authorised agency???

MOnica Bedi's trial is still going on. Whereas the case of Sanjay Dutt, the judgement has been delivered in the special court. Understand the difference.

Please understand law before comming to any conclusion.

Commit a crime, accept the mistake and expect leniency. Great strategy, which every criminal can adopt.!!!

Sympathise for his good deeds and at the same time accept the punishment for criminal acts.

Birds of the same feather flock together.

Are our so called Congress leaders respecting it. They are adding fuel to the fire by giving uncalled for statements.

Not all can be as rational thinking as you are. Some require a stick to prevent going astray there by spoiling the society. Cattles require leash to curtail straying into restricted territories.

Unfortunately the hierarchical system of judiciary is misplaced. Does this mean that the lower court judges are incapable of giving proper judgement??

He has escaped the jail term by another 4 years had he been tried under TADA act.

He was there only for 18 months. The actually stay should have been 120 months as per TADA. He is only serving a reduced sentence.

Very true. And that is what is being planned for India as well.

Post criminal act, he has behaved in a way he should have normally behaved and nothing exceptional. What is that the mis-guided sympathetic crowd want???

Commit a crime, repent and expect to absolved of the crime. Great message for criminals.

Commit a crime, accept the mistake and expect leniency. Great strategy, which every criminal can adopt.!!!

The case against Monica bedi is only on fake passport. Moreover the judgement has not yet been delivered in that case. Please appreciate the difference between a pending trial and a decided case.

UNfortunately he cannot be a role model. Common sense should prevail to differentiate between celluloid and real life.

We cannot say that all VIPs are not clean, similarly we cannot say all Sadhus and saints (Claimed) are clean.

Commit a crime and then start portraying as though doing good deeds and then claim innocence???

Abetting a crime is also a crime.

Oh yes. The person with whom he had interacted is hiding and being protected in Pakistan. No wonder there is support.

He should have been tried under the TADA act. He should be happy that he has escaped from that, thanks to the power lobby.

By the same logic, If a person gives protection to someone who is likely to cause or has caused serious damage to the society then he should also be pardoned as he has not directly killed anybody is it not.???

Some times they get published and then removed, reasons best known to only the person.

Then why have a judicial system. Let the public decide the cases.

In which case MOB mentality decides the judgement??

It is only to save the crores of money that have been blocked by way of Sanjay's incomplete films on hand.

Possesing a weapon of the likes of AK 56 is no ordinary crime. Moreover he is not an illiterate not to be aware that one cannot possess weapons illegally.

That is why he has not been tried under the TADA act. It would have been much harsher.

Can we not ask the question this way as well, as to why we should sympathise just because he is a star.

One has to face the consequence, if one commits a crime. Whatever poojas and havans one does, it is only in repentance and can only reduce the punishment and cannot be completely absolved.

Why not apply the same logic to Abu salem, Afzal Guru, etc...

Not to forget the ever so many adjournments utilised by the cunning criminal lawyers.

You may be right, but how he got and from whom he got is the question. MOreover he has armed bodygaurds and further still he could have acquired one through legal means by applying for a licensed weapon for self protection.

Same was the case with so many others who have been convicted. Then as per your logic they should also receive the same sympathy.

This in itself is a reduced punishment as he escaped from the TADA act, as otherwise he would have had much tougher punishment. Any way the lobby at the center is working overtime to create a sympathy wave and pressurise the judiciary.

PLs dont get blindfolded by the neon lights of the film industry. Good judgment comes only from a balanced mind.

Why not apply the same logic for Abu Salem, Afzal Guru etc. etc..

There are too many sympathisers where required, especially from the custodian of the dynastic property called Congress.

Gulf sponsored representative in the garb of an activist.

The statement "Political president" doesnt augur well for the well being of the constitution.

Shortly you are going to see mockery at the Supreme level. The supreme judiciary is being put under extreme pressure by the Power centers, by making uncalled for statements.

That doesnt absolve him of the crime.

I guess it has been planned that way as otherwise the reactions would have been different and the power centers have already started lobbying for Sanjay's release in the SC.

Pre-mediated offence is more serious than that which takes place in the heat of the moment, when there is a temporary insanity that sets-in in anybody.

Forgive him. He probably will realise now.

Pressure on the supreme judiciary is being built from parliamentarians in power.

Is it fair to pass open comments especially from the parliamentarians in power, sympathsing with Sanjay and that justice should be given at the supreme level of the judiciary. Isnt this putting undue pressure on the judiciary?

The lobbying has already commenced.

In this case it is the muscle power that has started playing.

LAw of the land does not allow citizens to possess weapons illegally. He is like any other citizen and is not above law.

It will be like her co-operative bank which was swindled and went bankrupt.

Uncalled for comments from one of the senior leaders, that Sanjay Dutt has sufferred enough and that he should appeal to the higher court is putting undue pressure on the judiciary.

Legal immunity for atleast 5 years.

Please dont talk of my birth. I shall take this up seriously with the concerned authorities.

If this post is not hosted, I will have to presume that certain members who post messages attacking individual members and whose messages alone are approved with previleges while those responding in a descent manner are rejected like the one below. Mr. Rajaye_hind, you have no right to talk on my birth and would request you to please refrain from such posts.

Have you realised the significance of your post on my birth. I would request you to refrain from posting such comments as it is derogatory on my parents.

Confused. Put in some more efforts.

Mob psychology and fear of being alone. Forgive and forget.

Would you mind restricting your views to the post and not discuss my birth. This doesnt speak well of educated people.

That is the definition of empowerment for Congress.

When someone is enjoying the pain of another, it is sadism.

This is something which every one should be worried and ashamed off and not to be enjoyed.

She is too honest, straightforward, calls a spade a spade and deals with a clean state irrespective of the situation and so the politicians are afraid.

Quite easy to be a milestone in the opposite direction.

Section 5 of the Citizenship Act of 1955 clearly says the rights and privileges allowed to foreigners who become citizens by application (not by birth) will only be those as are granted to Indians in the country of the concerned person's origin (in this case Italy). Which means that since an Indian cannot be the Prime Minister of Italy even if he is granted Italian citizenship, then Indian law says that an Italian who is granted Indian citizenship cannot be the PM of India.

Oh yes, truly an achievement, for never in the history of India have we had a president with such high credentials. Womens empowerment required but a wrong method and choice.

Constitution and judicial consultations where the reasons. And to deduce, requires no great commonsense.

Constitutional change for the benefit of the nation is good. But constitutional amendments for selfish political gains, like introducing office-of-profit like amendments is only going to ruin the nation. Congress is adept at that.

Yes constitutionally she is not eligible. Which is what Kalam had pointed out.

Let her prove that she is innocent, then apologies can come. Any way it is not possible to take any legal action atleast for the next 5 years on her.

This is not something one should enjoy and be proud about. The Congress it appears is enjoying it, which shows their divisive attitude and promotion of the same. Well old habits die hard.

Strong for the Congress.

Let us all hope against hopes.

Havent we seen the case of Kiran Bedi just a couple of days of the gender bias. Where has women's empowerment gone now.

Mussolini reborn.

Correct prediction and that is the objective of the COngress.

Minimum 5 year to go before any legal actions can be taken.

May I have your response to my post on your claiming Shekawat to be a traitor for having served the police during the british regime and the celebrations of the TN govt. of the 150 years of police service as to hat you would call that.

You are absolutely right. Sonia will be made PM, casting the constitution restrictions to the winds. Afzal would be given clemency. Ordinances and constitutional amendments passed by signing on the dotted lines.

Imposter of the worst kind. Adding fuel to already burning problem of the person. This is sadistic.

Let them say so.

The Indian National Congress hijacked by the dynasty is the worst ever opportunism that could have happened to the manipulative strategy of Nehru. To add further naming the dynasty with the Gandhi tag has had the worst ever impact on indian politics.

If you dont want to read my posts, you may take rest by ignoring.

Not the mahatma, but pseudo Gandhis.

We had one in the likes of A P J Abdul Kalam who could have been given another term, but the corrupt did not allow that to happen.

The president elect has also been opportunistic to get legal immunity.

And the person is also going to be only symbolic.

Gained legal immunity.

She has already cleaned up the poor through her co-operative society!!!

Office of Profits occupied by UPA MPs would be passed as and when it comes up. Afzal Guru would be given clemency. Ordinance to amend constitution to bring in OBC quota will be passed. Presidents rule would be imposed in most non-UPA states, giving flimsy excuses. Manmohan Singh would leave way for Sonia to become PM. and many more....

For the Congress!!!

But the president is supposed to be neutral and custodian of the constitution.

By becoming the president she has empowered herself by getting legal immunity, untill the time she is the president.

By becoming the president, she has empowered herself and has ensured legal immunity for herself.

Prathiba Patil needs to celebrate as she has gained legal immunity.

Whether we are celebrating or not she is definitely celebrating in the midst of the big-wigs like MMsingh and Sonia, in an un-abashed manner, knowing pretty well that the post of a president should be neutral an un-biased.

The presidential post has also become opportunistic as well.

You are right. She has to pay back the favours that she has received from political parties that have supported her. Barter the sanctity of the constitution to the favor received.

She will first pardon herself from all criminal charges.

Our constitution will be stoned.

Self empowerment, to give her legal immunity.

Not just a rubber stamp, may be re-writer of our constitution to suit the Congress.

If the post is just ornamental would be fine. It is a dangerous situation now as she has to return the favor to Congress and the Congress would want a rip of the constitution to suit their needs.

And it is a shame that new president is hanging around unabashedly waving victory signs shoulder to shoulder with MMSingh and Sonia. Neutrality will be thrown to the winds, and the stability of our constitution is at grave risk

Self empowerment, to give her legal immunity. The president has to be an independent neutral individual, who should not succumb to biased decisions and only then can the sanctity and honor of the constitution would be maintained. Considering the un-abashed, waving of victory sign along with Sonia and Manmohan, does not augur well on the maintenance of neutrality. Hope India is safe.

She is going to return the favor to Sonia and the Congress. Constitution is going to be ripped apart.

Very correct. It is an experience of an individual and could vary from person to person. A person with no roof to take shelter and living in the streets, if given a shelter, is experiencing heaven.

Loyalty to whom is the question. Loyalty to the nation is fine. If the loyalty is to the party which supports the presidential candidate, then the decisions may not be neutral and unbiased.

I suggest that it is better ignored.

The post was a rejoinder to Mr. Agniputra who claimed that Mr. Shekawat was a traitor since he served as a policeman during the british regime. He seems to have gone silent on this.

I thought the CPM had said that the Prez should have political Background, while the VP need not.

But unfortunately there are too many such individuals from a section.

Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi inaugurated the sesquicentennial (1856-2006) celebrations of Chennai City Police on January 4, 2007 at Rajarathinam Stadium. (Ref The Hindu Fated January 4th 2007) Obviously the police force before independence was under the control of the british. If a celebration for the years during the british period does it not tantamount to praising the force during that perios. This for your informatin is part of the UPA alliance.

But our ever so gentle, under instructions from the supreme commander with a ever appeasing vote banks strategist, has had sleepless nights on Dr. Haneef. They have gone to the extent of summoning the australian high-commissioner and insisted that DR Haneef be treated properly.

What would you call the celebration by a state govt, for the 150 years of police service. The state Govt. is TN and an ally of the UPA.

I guess you have not seen the satire in my post.

To the Pvt. Ltd. Co. of a dynasty.

The UPA nominee is going to far exceed MMSingh.

That UNPA has a cat on the wall attitude. Can jump to any side depending on the result.

Right you are.

Please check for the article "Naked Truth about Nehru Family" from the net

Why dont you throw some light on the root cause, if you have them with you. Could you also please care to explain as to why most of the terroist attacks are the handy wotk of Islamic militants???

You have not still answered my post.

At least I am my own master.

Some ghastly incidents when the PM should have had sleepless nights, but did not claim so. a) Why did not our Sacred Sachar Committee inspired and guided imbecile Prime Minister demonstrate similar sentiments after watching television footage of mutilated bodies of victims of Islamic terrorism both at home and abroad? b) Why did our impotent Prime Minister, instead of strongly condemning the Islamic terrorists / criminals soon after they blew up the train compartments in Mumbai last year, urge with such solemn supineness and stupidity an attitude of public restraint, expressing the hope that the tolerant accommodating �spirit� of the city of Mumbai would prevail over the 'ghastly tragedy'? Why did Dr Manmohan Singh choose to ignore the emotions, feelings and sentiments of the families of 247people who got killed on that day? Why was it not viewed as blatant violation of human rights by our Prime Minister? c) Why did our Prime Minister choose to warn our security forces in Jammu and Kashmir that his Islam-embracing Government would adopt a policy of 'zero tolerance'? If the security forces had indeed violated human rights, then the moot question is as to why did he not deem it fit, strangely enough, at the same time, to condemn the gross violation of Hindu human rights by terrorists who have attacked and continue to attack Hindu temples? Why did he not declare and elaborate his Government's policy on dealing with such violations of human rights by the Islamic terrorists of India? d) Why did our Prime Minister declare in Havana that Pakistan was as much a victim of terrorism as India, thereby giving a clean chit to those Islamic terrorists from Pakistan responsible for the grisly deaths of thousands of Indians in India? e) Why is it that our Prime Minister, who has shown such pointedly 'humane' consideration for the Islamic terrorists throughout the world (Afsal Guru definitely not excluded), never had a single sleepless night over the mass genocide of Kashmiri Pandits and the pitiable plight of Kashmiri Pandits living in abysmal conditions after being thrown out of their hearths and homes by Islamic terrorists in the Kashmir Valley? f) Why was our 'compassionate' Prime Minister not so moved when terrorists struck in Delhi on the eve of Diwali and at Sankat Mochan temple on the eve of Holi? Does it not show that the imagined sorrow of some touches our fictitiously cosmetic and cold-blooded Prime Minister more than the unwarranted grief of innocent people who have grievously suffered on account of Islamic terrorism? g) Why is our Prime Minister indulging in cynical politics, regardless of the dangerous consequences for our nation and its people?

We all know the source of funds of the Congress. Multinational money laundering!!!

The President is supposed to neutral. All politicians pay back to the party. In what way can a president pay back to the party which supported, when the post is supposed to be neutral and above party lines.

In a forum such as this, people fail to realise that views can be addressed to anyone and responded to by anyone else and cannot be just a dialogue between only 2 individuals.

Correct.

Which effectively means that the VP can never become the president as per CPM norms.

True, so long as they are treated properly. On the slightest of ill-treatment they turn violent.

And the politicians make appeasement statements possing stumbling blocks to investigating agencies.

BUt in India, pseudo-secular parties gives statements to investigating agencies not to harass certain sections.

1. Independence from political interference. 2. Investigate and catch the criminal even if he is a politician. 3. Security screening should be same to all with no exceptional deviations even to VIPs.

Gender cannot be identified from Pseudonyms and especially in a virtual platform such as this.!!!

Autocratic nature of a dynasty.

Please refrain from using derogatory language.

When it comes to non-hindus, the yardstick is that the particular community should not be branded, but when it comes to Hindus, an act of one individual will be targeted against the entire community.

All politicians pay back to the party. In what way can a president pay back to the party which supported, when the post is supposed to be neutral and above party lines.

Yes they scorn at the name of Gandhi, but a different one.

The party!!

Cunning ploy of Nehru to re-christen Feroz Khan as Feroz Gandhi!!!

We are yet to see the investigating agencies come out with the facts and book the criminals involved. Compare with the UK and US incidents, the criminals have been identified and justice rendered already.

Quite right. And all politicians pay back to the party. In what way can a president pay back to the party which supported her, when the post is supposed to be neutral and above party lines.

Just wanted to know if you had info on that so that it could be shared amongst all.

To Be read as "Moved Away from each other"

A concerted effort to tarnish the image of RSS has been going on right since independence.

Quite true. This is the first time in the history of a presidential election that we have seen a prospective president, going from state to state pleading for their support.

If this is the attitude of those few who go hunting down individuals rather than debate on the posts, it is definitely sad.

RSS and Nathuram Godse moved from each other much before the ghastly incident. Godse moved away from RSS specifically because RSS did not approve of the attitude of GODSE.

I would request you to please avoid passing derogatory remarks.

Who is funding her election campaign expenses???

In India, invariably the actions taken are knee jerk, just to cover up the lapses, with no proper long term perspective.

Especially to the dynasty called Congress a Pvt. Ltd. Co.

My comment to Mr. Nariman on this thread is very much relevant.

Please refrain from passing derogatory comments.

Chase, chase till you are satisfied.

Nice way of avoiding my main issue.

Why have double standards.

It is an infinitesimally small segment, whose voice will drown in the high decibel level of the majority fundamentalist.

Your comments on some who have opposed!!!

It has to be concerted effort of all.

Human tendencies is that if one has enjoyed the benefit of an obligation, one has to return the favour and is obligated.

Nice to meet you too.

That depends on who the president is and how he performs. Thre were quite a few presidents, who were not mere rubber stamps, but questioned the parliament and its ordinances. Kalam was one such president.

Every one knows that he is the best fit as on date. But it is a lost case. The only way possible is by way of national uprising asking for Kalam to be brought back as president for one more term.

Well, advice is good, but one needs to also give some vies in a debate.

I know where Iam and where I should be.

I agree 110% with you. If this is what you expect and happy, be happy with it.

It has been accepted into the english language ages back. For your information there are several words inducted into the english from several languages including Hindi.

Now you are going by media reports isnt it??

Just as you have faith in a dynasty.

It is unfortunate to see the prospective president going from place to state along with the UPA allies. seeking votes. It has come to such a sad state of affairs.

Definitely better than the people who act as slaves to the dynasty.

My understanding of your understanding of my post is quite clear.

If people are not aware, they should accept and learn and understand it.

Common man has to go by the media since they do not have insiders within the party circles.

Again going by the media, the cases have been foisted during emergency by the dictator against all those who opposed and immediately after emergency, it was a decision taken at the national level that all casess foisted during emergency would be withdrawn.

The strong willed man, who had the polticians in his fists.

To err is human.

I have not disputed your right over your views. As regards replies, it is all oneliners on the character of an individual rather than any meaningful contribution by way of counter views.

Every one likes their view to be accepted by others with phrases like "100% agree" etc.. This bloats their ego. And if this is done they are liked and praised. Any opposition to views will receive comments like that of yours. Anyway that is your view and you are entitled to have it and share it with friends who relish it.

I have also got a clear understanding of your understanding, in understanding my posts.

In the indian political scenario it is convenient to comment that all accusations are allegations knowing pretty well the long drawn judicial process to either confirm or dismiss the crimes. Why not take these allegations and prove it to the nation that all are baseless allegations and come out clean rather than wild claims as baseless charges, before taking up the prestigious post.

With everyone else he is wrong is it? You have a right to have any kind of views about any individual.

I have not prevented any from voicing their view. It is only that I post a counter view if I am in disaggreement. It is upto the individual to take it or leave it. That is discussion and debate.

I thought the courts decide the bench composition. And if that be so even in the first instance they should have had the necessary bench in place.

I guess the same is the case with you and many others.

Then you should be in heaven.

For your information: Pseudo is a prefix of Greek origin. In common parlance, it is used to mark something as false, fraudulent, or pretending to be something it is not in fact. And so the practise of Congress is contrary to secularism and hence the term Pseudo-secularism.

I think I have every right to voice my views in a democracy!!!

Oh yes. Dual cirizenship without trusting the adopted nation for 10 years and living on renewed VISA.

I hope you would have read the Novel "GODGATHER" by Mario Puzo or atleast seen the film, it brings out the true Italian Mafia culture.

Which is to the EC, which has people like Navin Chawla administering it!!!

Dont you know that we have an Italian proxy PM and a heir to the dynasty with Columbian connections.

Not secular but pseudo-secular.!!!

My post was one of cynicism.

On expected lines!!!!

The Italian Mafia and the Columbian drug lords are going to be much worse.

If this inflates your ego, so be it.

Many believe that "The Discovery of India" is the ultimate history.

Looks like a legal bribe!!!

Probably one on our constitution as well.

That is exactly what I had to say.

EC has performed as per the guidelines that ruling Congress has spelt. The opposition is doing its job of highlighting those gaps.

The EC has failed in its duty and deliberately so and required someone to highlight.

The constitution will be amended at the wink of an eyebrow.

Audits and audit reports!!!

Can a beggar walk into a gathering of rich whichever caste it belongs???

If all are baseless, why is that the Prathiba PAtil or the Congress isnt filing adefamation case.

Oh yes. They will always find a willing scape goat, happy to go to the slaughter house.

That is why they claim it as mere allegations.

The Congress is quite capable at that.

Arent you concerend as a citizen of India??

The history initiated by the dynasty.

By the same logic, why isnt that no defamation cases are being filed??

The loans disbursed were to her close relatives and no attempts were made to recover.

Unfortunately it is a lost case. It is in the good of the nation that qualities are highlighted of un-deserving casess which are going to be sure shot, needs focus, for the nation to understand.

If you claim that as chairperson of an organization she is not aware of the mis-appropriation of funds, she is not fit to be the president of the country. Iam sure you will also be aware of the audit regulations, that as a chairperson she is supposed to sign the audited report. If you still claim that she might have signed, like anyother document without reading the contents, it will be very dangerous for the Nation is she does so as president.

Being the chairperson of the bank, she cannot claim that she is not aware. If that be so, she cannot be the president of a nation.

Audits and audit reports filled with the RBI and ROC cannot be allegations and baseless.

Pls ponder about this. She will sign on papers and claim that she was not mentally in support of any act, it is only her fingers that acted.

Why not. Dont we need standardization in all walks of life.

All of those facts you have mentioned would be called as allegations, not realising that their will be audits and audit reports of commercial organizations, and that these could be easily verified from the reports.

If you claim that as chairperson of an organization she is not aware of the mis-appropriation of funds, she is not fit to be the president of the country.

Audited reports cannot be allegations. She was the chairperson till the bank was asked to close by RBI.

fascistic comments about so-called fascist.

When Congress is unable to find one of our own home grown to lead the party, this is expected of Congress.

To place unconstitutionally Sonia in the post of PM in the coming 2009 elections if Congress wins.

We have dearth of noble statesman in our political arena.

Currently a proxy.

THE PRATIBHA MAHILA SAHAKARI BANK-The Co-operative Bank set up by Mrs Prathiba Patil in her own name in 1973 was liquidated under orders of the Reserve Bank of India in 2003 on the telling ground that its continuance would be prejudicial to the interests of depositors. Who got the loans. Brother's Daughter-in-law 45.83 lakhs Nephew 54.97 lakhs Brothers Kin 42.89 lakhs another nephew 21.44 lakhs third Nephew 20.4 laks Total due from the above amounts to 2.24 crores. The Cooperative Bank Employees Union wrote one memorandum after another exposing how the Directors of the Pratibha Mahila Sahakari Bank were systematically bankrupting the bank. They demanded dismissal of the family-controlled board. They demanded a CBI inquiry against Pratibha Patil.

She is too strong a lady and Congress will not want such a person. Thar is the difference between looking upon and look down upon.

Tough talk, but true.

You mean uniform civil code?

To be prepared for any eventuality.

Reminders and learning from the past is not wrong. Gracing the occassion of a noble service oriented stalwart (Others may have a different opinion) is nothing wrong. We have seen Sonia and other leaders of the Congress grace the celebrations of MK's 50 years as a legislature and everyone knows the party behind the assasination Rajeev Gandhi!!.

The president should have been HAMARA TARA, but has become MERA - TERA.

The president has to be some one who will be throwing constitutioin to the winds and make way for Sonia to become PM in 2009, not considering the constitutional restrictions.

And also the waiver of loan granted from Amravati People's Co-operative Bank to Sriram Rolling Mills and Pratibha Patil's husband, Devi Singh Shekawat, stood guarantor for a loan taken by Sriram Rolling Mills - a loan that was never repaid. The address of the rolling mill was listed as Shekawat's Amravati residence.

Pvt. Ltd Co.

Unfortunately in India, the Hindu majority will have to face a tougher yardstick while the minorities can get away even with murder...

Not only that, her so called supreme sacrifice in not accepting the PM post last time, was a drama, as constitutionally she could not have become the PM, which Dr Kalam pointed out. Hence Congress wants some one who will thow the constitution to the winds and allow madam to become PM in the 2009 elections.

Madam wants to become PM in the 2009 elections, which otherwise would not be possible considering the constitutional obligations.

Let me ask you a question. A minister in the state government, Mohammed Yaqoob Qureshi, offered a reward of $US11.5 million ($15.6 million) for the beheading of any of the cartoonists. No case was filed against him for instigating communal violence. BJP’s reward for killing militants: Case registered against Katiyar. The Jammu Police registered a case against Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) general secretary Vinay Katiyar for attempting to incite communal violence by announcing reward money for those civilians who killed militants. What hipocrcy and pseudo-secularism.

And the error message is "Multiple submission not allowed"

The system throws out an error if you click on the submit button more than once.

Please also read Radhikarajens response. This is exactly what Radhikarajen has also referred.

Aptly put.

The person could be a Nari or Man!!!

That is the precisely I wanted you to understand with others as well. Let us not drag this issue any more.

Moreover they were responses to the same person posting the post again and again, and naturally I had to post the same response, as the view cannot change.

Mr. Rajaye_hind, not to pin-prick or point out, but just to make you understand, that there are 2 same posts of yours and you had ascribed some reasons for my similar such instances. Some times out of doubt of whether the post is getting posted or not, one tends to re-post. Sorry if I this has hurt you.

Another Patil is going to do the honours to Sonia.

Oh yes, the person who was reluctant to take up Indian citizenship for almost 10 years and was on a visa. Great Traditions being set.

You are right if president elect acts in such a manner. However the events in the past couple of weeks have shown that the presidential candidate will have to return favours.

All have surrendered to a Pvt. Ltd Co. called Congress!!!

A report in UP has revealed that it is not the Upperclass but the OBCs who have been responsible for the attrocities on dalits. The OBCs have emerged as the group most in conflict with them. National SC/ST Commission acting chairman Fakirchand Vaghela says, “All this is not being done by the traditional zamidars or the Brahmins. But there the conflict is between the SC and the OBC. It is no longer the Brahmin-Thakur combine that is keeping the SCs at the bottom run of the caste ladder. The Yadavs and Kurmis must now take the blame for Dalit's miseries.

Trend set by a Pvt. Ltd. Company called Congress.

Is this process of selecting the president correct? Dont you think this leads to politicization of the post of president and the incumbent may not do the role in an unbiased manner??

It is indirectly the president electing the president. Members of Parliament from the Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha and MLAs from the State Assemblies are the voters in the Presidential elections.

Since politics has crept into the selection of a president, do we need a president at all, or their should be an alternate form of selecting the president??

Congress would want a weak and meak president. And that is the reason why Sonia is pushing for Shivraj Patil. If Congress wins the 2009 elections Sonia would have an easy time becoming the PM with a meak president nominated by the Congress, acting like a rubber stamp, with no regard to eligibility and constitutional responsibility.

India as a whole is a laboratory of divisive research and the CEO is the COngress party.

The aryan invasion is a concotion of britishers to divide the nation. Though largely ignored by the Indian media, two major developments have sounded the death knell of the Aryan invasion theory. These are: (1) genetic evidence showing that the Indian population is almost entirely indigenous with negligible input from outsiders going back to the last Ice Age (more than 10,000 years); and (2) British admission that the Aryan invasion theory was concocted to serve imperial interests, because, “it gave a historical precedent to justify the role and status of the British Raj, who could argue that they were transforming India for the better in the same way that the Aryans had done thousands of years earlier.”

We do have a censor Board. If for every such issue there is going to be such procedures, why do we need censor boards. I am not disputing that. All Iam asking is why double standards. The same amount of zeal has to be shown in all cases by the govt.

Mr. Nariman does not feel so.

Whether India likes it or not, Congress will neither like nor will allow.

Congress an university for divisive forces.

We have also seen the commies walk aggressively towards the speaker in the parliament.

Beware, someone is posting messages under a similar looking ID of yours "gautammehra_I". Please the "1" in your Id has been replaced by "I".

Bowing to public pressure and Christian organisations who have been up in arms against the film The Da Vinci Code , Goa government also decided to ban the screening of the movie in the state. Then Congres ruled states of Goa, Punjab, Nagaland and Meghalaya also banned the movie. You are right, 2 wrongs do not make a right, however, highlighting only one and ignoring the other is double standards of the ultimate kind.

Very true. Twisted, manipulated, mis-represented and may be illegitimated.

The capabilities of Bush has been reflected by the rejection of the people during the recent by elections in the US.

Why was a special privilege given to Christian representatives to view the film along with the minister of information and broadcasting and waited for their acceptance.

To be read as "Not following double standards"

Why post the same message again, as some would ask me quite often and also ascribe a reason for the same.

His decision making capabilities has already been reflected in the recent US by elections.

Could you provide me more details on this.

Good. Pls also insist that the censor board be Disbanded. Then I will agree you are not following standards.

The philosophy of pseudo-secular is anything Hindu is communal, and to support anything else is considered highly secular!!!

The AP govt. is planning to bring in reservations for muslims, which they claim will clear the legal scrutiny. How is this possible? Is there going to be a constitutional amendment.???

Will the CENSOR Board adopt such a stance?? No one will have any issues if the Govt. of India takes a generic stance.

Very true. Mohammed Yaqoob Qureshi, offered a reward of $US11.5 million ($15.6 million) for the beheading of any of the cartoonists. No case was filed against him for instigating communal violence. There was no comment from the pseudo-seculars on this.

Handing over ceremony to the next generation of the Pvt. Ltd Company called Congress.!!!

Pseudo-secular!!!

People like the Ramadosss, the paswans want creamy layer also included. Isnt that proof enough of the cornering of certain sections, but fooling the gullible and ignorant.

And the Congress is and has been doing that for India as a whole.

Can you explain why the Ramadoss and Paswans still want them to be included.

All the developments done now will all come out in the open with congress claiming sole responsibility. Mind you this will all come within the 1st quarter itself, which to anyone with a little bit of commonsense will know that it is humanly immpossible to achieve and our gullible as well as some intelligent will succumb to it.

Havent we seen the Vatican representative, in our 2 and 1 Rs coins, with the cross embossed and claim practice of seculariism.

It is under this very same legal clause that M F Hussain has been chargesheeted. Unfortunately he is absconding.

Human Psyche will never allow one to throw away something which is provided on a platter.

Precisely.

Not worth answering, as one can only wake a genuine sleeping man.

There can be no 2 opinions on that.

As per most, Creative works have no shackles and anything is a restriction to freedom of expression. Any restriction brought in by any religion is a restriction on the freedom of expression.

I have also said Former MP sir. By saying former MP does not mean he is out of the COngress fold.

On the one hand the general opinion is that the judicial system is corrupt and at the mercy of the politicians, and on the other hand some expect that law should not be taken into ones own hands. Isnt it a little confusing and one of double standard.

My post was a satirical one and does not in any way support the unschakled freedom of expression, which infringes on others religious sentiments.

First we as Bumiputras should think wether Sonia herself should be given that responsibility.

All of us know how the law of land works. I have not seen any comments from you on the BMW case and the former Congress MP and defence lawyer R K Anand's role in the whole episode.

Absolutely sir. A truly creative artists can create wonders even within set boundaries and parameters.

We can have several non-congress govt.s under presidents rule ince one of the Congress nominee takes over as president.

Sadistic Pleasure!!!

Which is what the politicians and many supporters want.

The protests against Chandra Mohan's paintings began on 9 May, when Citizens' Groups asked him to remove his work from a public exhibition. Among the earliest to protest was the pastor of the Methodist Church in Baroda, Reverend Emmanuel Kant. But, this fact has been conveniently brushed under the carpet by the 'secular' media owing their allegiance only to pseudo-secular anti-hindu organizations. More over Contrary to an erroneous impression being created, the paintings were not on display at a private gathering but, rather, at an exposition open to walk-in visitors.

It is unfair to term all Hindus as what you have claimed they are. Would request you to refrain from airing such views.

Chandra Mohan has been arrested by the police for validly legal reasons which can stand Judicial Scrutiny in any Court of Law in India. Chandra Mohan has committed an offence under Section-295 of the Indian Penal Court (IPC). Under this Section, damaging or defiling a place of worship or a sacred object with the intent to insult the religion of any class is an offence. Any object, which is held sacred by any class of persons, can be the object of an insult within the meaning of Section-295. The Supreme Court of India has held that it is not necessary for the purpose of Section-295 that the object must be actually worshipped. Against this background, the silly argument of the Professors and the students in the Faculty of Fine Arts, Maharaja Sayajirao University, Baroda that Chandra Mohan's paintings were not either under worship or intended for worship falls to the ground.

Artists are considered to beyond such rational thinking. To them rational and logic thinking puts schackles to their free, un-controlled freedom to expression.

When a dog comes to bite, you will not definitely bite it back, but you will atleast try to ward it off with a stick and not welcome it with open arms to come and have a bite at you.

Hinduism does not believe in pardon for sins committed. It belives in Karma and one has to reap the consequences of ones act.

Vaysayanas Kamasutra is no religious text, nor vatsayana is portrayed and believed to be a saint.

Who knows, may be the Italian Mafia is taking its roots in here as well.

You hardly know anything about RSS.

I dont think you have understood my post.

This is uncalled for to state that all hindus are what you say and putting all Hindus in bad light. This is clear case of defamation. I would request you to take back your words.

Iam not clear of what you mean. If you are referring to freedom of expression, then movies are also a for of art and expression. In which case why do we need a censor board.

Your fatwa is fine, but is it what is being practiced. For your information as per human rights statistics, most of the cases of Rape in Pakistan have been treated as ZINA cases.

The history that most are exposed to are that which has been conveniently manipulated and mis-represented by the Congress since Independence.

So you feel that a govt. level ordinance is required on conversions. Why then there is protest against the conversion law that some states have implemented and trying to implement.

Convenient explanation. Anyway what your views on the other posts of mine.

Good that you have brought the legal issue. That is why the Conversion Law bill is planned, but there seem to be opposition. There is the political goondaism to thwart such bills.

Convenient. Any way what about the responses to the other posts.

Follow the leader, and learn from the master of the art.

The sins of Congress will run into volumes!!!

Ruthless measures can be taken only if the politics does not interfere and the police is an independent body

Selective sting operations is not fair.

May be referring to freedom of the persons expression and shackles to others.

Unfortunately, a wrong impression has been created in some people by the custodians of History, the great Pvt. Ltd. co. called Congress, that Khajuraho is a temple, just to tarnish Hinduism.

Have you seen the very old movie called "Balikha Badhu". The climax indicates the purpose of the place and was relevant at that point in time.

There are atleast 2 cases of talaq in the last previous year, wherein the man in his sleep (A sate of mental imbalance) utterred talaq, and the sharia (Kangaroo) court immediately issued a fatwa for the couple to seperate, despite the couple not wanting to. It further went on to say that the woman must marry somebody else, live with the other man for a day, divorce and then only can she remarry the first husband. Can there be any logic in this?

As per the Sharia law as practised in Pakistan it is expected to provide 4 witnesses for a rape? If so rarely can you have this situation. Even if there are 4, they will only be acomplices and will never give a testament to the effect of a rape. In these days of DNA tests, Narco analysis etc dont you think that should be adopted as evidences.

Thanks to the tolerance of Hinduism, so many religion have started to live together in this land.

You are right.

You mean Intellectual and legal goondaism.???

Will you believe the text books prescribed in Pakistan??? These are extracts from government-sponsored textbooks approved by the National Curriculum Wing (NCW) of the Federal Ministry of Education: General: 'Who is a Hindu? A Hindu is an enemy of Islam' 'Before the Arab conquest, people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists & Hindus. Before the arrival of Islam in India, people lived in untold misery'. 'European nations have been working during the past three centuries to subjugate countries of the Muslim world'.

Can you enlighten me on the following. Out of 6236 Ayats of the Quran, about 3900 are directly or indirectly related to 'Kufar' and 'Kafirs', 'Infidels' non-believers in Allah and his Prophet Mohammed. These 3900 or odd Ayats also simultaneously refer to other subjects like, believers, Jihad, Kiyamat, Hell and Heaven. Surah 2 Ayat 193: 'Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme' Surah 2/123: 'Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you' Surah 8 Ayat 12: 'I shall cast terror into the hearts of infidels. Strike off their heads and maim them in every limb'.'

It is ironical that the kerala Govt. has announced the RAJA RAVI VErma Award to M F Hussain, who has painted the Hindu goddess and the Bharath Mata in the nude. Well on expected lines considering the communist governance and their anti-hindu stance by the Kerala Govt.

Straight logic. If the Bahujan are backward, generally most would be economically weak as well and would definitely come under the economic criteria reservation fold isnt it??

Could please enlighten me on the fatwa issued to a victim raped by the father-in-law. The victim was asked to seperate from her husband.

Ha Ha Ha. May I know what the Congress has been doing since Independence???

One could never have come to know the real history as presented by Congress since Independence.

Dis you know that the Congress prescribed history books referred to Ramana Mahirishi as a mad man??

My reference is in response to your post where you have stated history cannot be different.

Some samples from Pakistan curriculum. These are extracts from government-sponsored textbooks approved by the National Curriculum Wing (NCW) of the Federal Ministry of Education: General: 'Who is a Hindu? A Hindu is an enemy of Islam' 'Before the Arab conquest, people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists & Hindus. Before the arrival of Islam in India, people lived in untold misery'. 'European nations have been working during the past three centuries to subjugate countries of the Muslim world'.

History will be the same. BUt since the politicians are responsible for the contents, it can be manipulated as has been seen in India and Indian history. Manipulated, misrepresented by the Congress since Independence. To quote "Ramana Mahirishi has been presented as a mad man"

All refer to the Kajuraho. People do not realise it is not a temple.

The fear of being chased from one end of the earth to the other to snatch the life.

Great. Why have a censor board. The objection is only to double standards.

You seem to be educated. Would you require it??

Condemn this freedom of expression or the moral policing???

Promote unconstitutional ordinances????

Every one makes mistakes and it is for one to realise the same and rectify. Even our constitution has been manipulated and misused using the loopholes.

The TN govt. is planning to bring in an ordinance to provide for quota within a week for the religious minorities. An unconstitutional ordinance can we say???

Impressions need to change with views. Mental block has to be removed and facts assimilated, absorbed and adsorbed.

Havent you heard the legislatures screaming from the roof tops that Judiciary should not interfere with the legislature. The reasons are obvious. They would want to manipulate the constitution to suit their convenience and dump all under the 9th schedule which is beyond judicial scrutiny. But the judiciary has come out stating that the 9th schedule will also be subject to scrutiny.

Wholistic views are completely lacking in some cases.

MIND & BODY, HEART & SOUL all should synchronize.

Open the project files of the previous govt. Stall the project. Inconvenience general public. Theowout the efforts spent and revisit with fresh wastefull efforts. By the time the next election would become due and the situation would be disastrous if the govt. changes.

My post was actually to those who felt that the arrest was illegal.

Why do you have double standards, in this case alone of economic exclusion. As a corollary, there should be inclusions also on the same economic considerations.

The majority in this country are paid employees, so all paid employees are beggars.

To learn swimming, one has to jump into the water bed, and the survival instinct automatically guides.

So it is your intention to keep the identification process going and keep pointing out the castes.

Absolutely.

Converting passenger trains to superfast, without changing any parameters of the train, but charging more and yet claim no increase in fares. Increasing the Tatkal fare and reducing the reserved ticket class and increasing the Tatkal quota, thereby insuring that the passengers are forced to pay more. Convenient way to say fares have not increased and yet claim profits and turnaround.

Anti-RSS mind set will not do that. As it would lead to a change in stance, which the ego would not permit.

Quickly learnt the trick of how to pass the buck in a coalition govt.

They learnt it from the Britishers, and the dynasty mastered it into an art.

I agree. I posted a querry on how secularist would react if the currency was released with the image of Goddess Lakshmi. It got hosted and subsequently got removed. This was in response to Mr. Nariman's commnet to one of my posts on the 1Rs coin having a cross on it.

And the normal reserved seats reduced to accommodate more Tatkal tickets, there by forcing people to pay more.

Deliberate attempts!!! I repeat, What was the need for Sardar Patel to ask RSS to join the COngress. The rejection by the the Then RSS chief was a damage to the ego of the Congress leaders and then started the smear campaign.

Compare it to reaching the other shore. One has to swim through to reach the other shore, but waiting for a boat to drop to other shore is what is reservation.

Will our so called Ramadoss accept that???

Very True. A minister in the state government, Mohammed Yaqoob Qureshi, offered a reward of $US11.5 million ($15.6 million) for the beheading of any of the cartoonists. No case was filed against him. Double standards.

A private limited company called Congress.

The massacre of Sikhs post Indira Assasination is the worst that could happen and the involved have been also identified as top Congress leaders then.

There is also this fact, that a lie repeated a 1000 times is believed to be the truth.

Also the fear of the Italian Mafia.

Converting passenger trains to superfast, without changing any parameters of the train, but charging more and yet claim no increase in fares.

There you go. A beggar outside who is economically weak has no caste, creed etc. I had asked you earlier, if one can identify the social status of a beggar? It is not possible.

Even then the priests are only paid employees to the swindlers in the trust. Moreover, it is no longer the bastion of Brahmins as far as priesthood is concerned especially in TN. Anyway priests are also beggars as you have stated, which means that it is not a well paying job.

There is also a belief that the concience within one is the god. To realise the same, several forms have been devised for one to concentrate and focus. One reaceh the utltimate if one realises it without any object.

Failures of the UPA are like haystack and success are like needles in it. One needs to search with great difficulty.

Converting passenger trains to superfast, without changing any parameters of the train, but charging more and yet claim no increase in fares.

Isnt censor board the moral guardian. Why do we want them?

Why not take it in the positive, and think that by this, the situation could ease the tension, instead of both sides taking a stubborn stance.

Please state what needs to be done. Apart from reservations. As that is only going to keep the system going, by those who will be benefitted and would not want to come out of it.

with no responsibility and at the same time weilding power. A person without ministerial portfolio, given the credit for being best, should go in the guinees books of records.

Was I should say!!!

The control of the temple trusts are not with brahmins any longer sir, especially in TN. It is now with swindlers.

I hope you will not mis-understand. It doesnt stop with just the understanding but to practice is also very important. A person who has no knowledge of the Vedas or upanishads but to true to his concience does not harm others is much better of than a person who is a master of Vedas and upanishads, but does not practice it.

No longer sir.

The counter that I posted never got listed.

If the same incident is taken as a movie, Iam sure the censor board would have clipped those scenes.

Can we say that the anti-articles about those orgn. are being accessed by you.

Will the politicians ever allow that to happen. Moreover, these baits like reservations will also ensure that the beneficiaries also would not want to get out of the tag.

If some repeat the same, it is NEWS every time.

The country was divided at the time of Independence thanks to Congress and one mans greed for power.

People like our Dr Ramadoss's still want to cling on to it. That is proof enough for all that those who would be benefitted would not want to get rid of it.

Any program where Owais has been appearing has been spewing venom and violence.

Why set boundaries for films, whoever sets it. Since the general belief of the so called activist of freedom of expression is that there should be no restriction. Why dont they fight the govt. to disband the censor board.

The govts have been attempting to bring in the disclosure of foreign exchange inflows and expenditure of the so-called NGOS, which has been vehemently opposed by those so-called charitable orgns.

How right your views are.

The campaign launched by Swami Vivekananda against Christianism in India in the last decade of the 19th century when the Missionaries' campaign of calumny against everything Hindu reached its peak. Keeping this in view, Swami Vivekananda cried out aloud with anguish in the Parliament of Religions at Chicago in 1893: 'If we Hindus dig out all the dirt from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean and throw it in your faces, it will be a speck compared to what our missionaries have done to our Hindu religion and culture.' Fortunately for India at that time the Congress Party did not exist; otherwise Swami Vivekananda would have been dismissed by Congress spokespersons like Sonia Gandhi or Ambika Soni, united in their resolve for the evangelisation of India under the constitutional umbrella of pseudo-secularism.

Here are some quotes of Swami Vivelananda. Swami Vivekenanda was vociferous that this vast land of ours should be a Hindu Nation. Swami Vivekananda says that Hindu Dharma is the quintessence of our national life, hold fast to it if you want your country to survive, or else you would be wiped out in three generations.

Why have a censor board. After all movies are also one aspect of creative representation.

People like our Dr Ramadoss's still want to cling on to it. That is proof enough for all that those who would be benefitted would not want to get rid of it.

Yeah. Later people would cling on to it to get the benefits and no one would want to get rid of it.

Hindutva is working. What you sow, so you reap.

Getting back by the same coin, I guess.

I think philosophy.

A text is a text. It can be read by anybody. There is noting like a brahminical text and non-brahminical text.

NOt clensed when it ought to have. Paying the price.

Please donot give any ideas. Some way even say it is the hindus who are responsible for the terroism globally.

Concessions to religious minorities will promote conversions.

To the pseudo-seculars, a HINDU fighting for equal treatment of all religions (which is actualy secular) and highlighting the appeasement policies and biased approaches is communal.

Please forgive.

Pseudo-secular mafia.

Majority cannot expect anything. That is the sad state of affairs in this country governed by pseudo-secular mafias.

Yes. Iam only repeating the concept normally conveyed by Mr. Nariman

To some of those, a lie repeated becomes the truth. And to those I believe in repeating the truth as many times, until it is understood.

Afraid of their lives. As others are not as soft.

You are right as regard COngress is concerned. Iam sure you will not get any answers.

The venom of division spit by COngress is the root cause for all that is happening since Independence.

Freedom of expression, Be happy...

Your post answers indirectly who is responsible. Logically will any one disturb law and order in a state which is under their control. None. Unfortunately BJP is not as experienced like Congress to create trouble in Congress led states.

What is happenning? In the name of FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, religions are made the targets by the artists.

As per Hindu way of life, there is no set limit to freedom of expression. It expects one to set there own limits and ensure that it does not cause harm to others.

Fantastic response.

Please check my response below.

Good that I have been useful to you in some way!!!

Could be a GMAT or GRE or TOFEL!!!

Which means that when the Danish Cartoon issue was taken up by none other than the PM of India, the Da Vinci Code was taken up by the ministry of Information and broadcasting, why was the govt. silent on the M F hussain Paintings and now the Chandramohan issue. If the central Govt. had raised their objections, things would have been different.

You have yourself stated in your post that Hinduism is a way of life, and the merits or demerits, depends on how one lives. As regards freedom of expression, have the yardstick common for all. Why was there support for the protest on the Danish Cartoon, the Da Vinci Code or the Satanic Verse?? The reason for all that is happenning, is because anything Hindu is treated communal.

Please read my post clearly. I have not yet promised and I quote "If you want I shall wait and not post until others take the No. 1 slot....". So please plead for it and I shall grant you my promise.

That doesnt give these so-called artists the right to defile the sentiments.

But I dont curse others like some in this MB.

If that makes you happy so be it.

Will Saudi Arabia open up for other religious place of worship in there.

Why donr you also comment on the Fatwas issued on dress code of muslim women.

That is the standard set by the pseudo-seculars. Please dont blame. Different yard sticks for different groups.

Such post are character assassination and not expected from gentlemen.

You think I have taken him hostage just for the sake of taking the top spot in this MB and preventing Mr. Betterlife from posting and for this Iam going to make millions.... That is good creative imagination.

What happenned to Da Vinci Code sir????

You may have asked the most relevant and tough question..

And also to the Da Vinci Code type art forms.

Doe this have any relevance Mr. Nariman??

Take care to read the posts before expressing your views!! I am not interested in the slot. If you want I shall wait and not post until others take the No. 1 slot.

Mr. Nariman, you are also not far behind!!!

I have no hassles in stopping my posts for some time till you reach the no. 1 Spot sir.

Please read my post above. Moreover I dont go about character assasinating others.

I dont need to prove anything to anybody as my attempt is sincere.

Creativity does not dwell on reality.

No double standards. Reference to Danish Cartoons and Da Vinci Code.

None will answer and I have had several post across in this MB.

Fantastic quote.

We know the pseudo-secular custodians of law have different yardstick for different religious sentiments. Our PM spoke to the premier of Netherland condemening the Cartoon, while he did not bother to speak to the malaysian or Pakistani counterpart when temples where demolished.

Brilliant Poser.

What is you reaction to the so-called art activists who are claiming the issue to be a vandalism on creativity and freedom of expression??

Do you know why?? Please analyse carefully the National parties involved and you will get an answer.

So if the Govt. or the censor board is not interferring in such matters, some one will have to take on the role.

No objections. So long as you have the same yardstick for a Danish Cartoon of the Allah or the Da Vinci Code representing Jesus as having had an affair with a woman.

This happens. There are on several occassions the posts do not appear even after several sessions, and one gets the feeling that it has been deleted and hence it is re posted once again. The moderator subsequently authorises all.

I had even sent an email to him. Have not got any response.

NDTV should take the responsibility of tracing, as he happens to be the topmost surfer till date.

May be he is referring to the creative movie called Da Vinci Code!!

Great words and a questions which need to be answered by all those so-called protectors of creative art.

How come SP withdrew the support for the UPA, just before the elections???? Was SP supporting UPA despite being political enemies???

Can we expect a master piece of art work on Virgin Mary or Jesus with a whole lot of creative juicy stuff.

When jesus was portrayed as having had an affair with a woman, the reaction to that I hope everybody remembers.

If we can express creativity any way we like and claim it as freedom of expression, why do we need censor boards?

Why do we need a censor board then?

May I have your kind responses to some of my posts below.

Good suggestion, and let all those creative artists paint the process of their coming to this world.

I hope the Congress supporters appreciate this.

All of which are enshrined within 4 walls of a structure called temple.

The instigation is the handy work of the people whom you have listed as the future so-called saviours of Gujarath.

Your kind comments on some of my posts in this forum.

And claim it to be a work of art and creativity!!!

I challenge each one of the so called protectors of creative art, to bring out some work of art on Allah. We need not wait to see what will be the moral policing that will erupt. We have already seen in the Danish Cartoon case.

When the Danish Cartoon issue became a global issue, condemned violently by the religious heads and many followers, where were these so called protectors of creative art. Not a word of condemnation was given. MF Hussain was convenienly silent. What Hypocracy.

I challenge each one of the so called protectors of creative art, to bring out some work of art on Allah. We need to wait to see what will be the moral policing that will erupt. We have already seen in the Danish Cartoon case.

Why focus on just one party.

Have they announced that they are the most un-clean, most corrupt political outfits.

Enlightment from anywhere must be welcomed.

There a lot of Bones which the Congress can throw to Mayawati, which she will grab with glee and in turn serve the Congress needs.

There is no difference. It is a psychological effect which is one of facing the society.

Do you mean to say the BSP, the SP, the DMK, AIADMK etc the regional outfits have clean straightforward politicians???

Congress claimed by many even among the inteligentia as the protectors and saviours of secularism!!!

In Which the Nehru dynasty have got a doctorate!!!

The dynasty of PMs was started by the Pvt. Ltd. PArty called Congress.

Pvt. Ltd. Co. like the Congress are I guess saintly, straighforward etc...???

Will be a nation full of holes!!!

Iam recalling your own comment. That does not exonerate the deed.

Let the advice be given to their own ilks and see how they take it before advicing others.

Many Moulanans have said that their brethern of their religion are more important and would not attack even as an enemy of the nation.

To be read as "Nehru ignored Gandhi's suggestion"

Any MP / MLAs overseas will have to approved by the Parliament / State assembly.

Congress has chosen a flag, Convenient to fool the gullible Indians.

Will there be reciprocation???

The TAJ corridor scam will go to cold storage.

The current Congress It is not Indian National Congress. It is the hijacked Indian National Congress by a dynasty. Nehru Gandhi's suggestion to disband the Indian National Congress immediately after Independence.

A financially weak also has an inferiority complex.

A right punch to left and left punch to right.

Possible. A bargain for the TAJ corridor scam.

The last few years of Kanshi Ram was litterally under the shackles of Madam Mayawati.

The TAJ Corridor SCAM will go to cold storage for some time.

They are TRP rating increase strategy.

You are right sir. Unfortunately the Hindus have been treated as second class citizens and different yard stick applied for HIndus, while for the minorities it is garlands.

Will NOt work in UP sir.

Will an investigation ever be taken up considering that he is part of the ruling front.??

Oh yes, and sometimes falling back on convenient legal loop holes.

Have I heard anythng from you on the following post. Interestingly, Revenue Minister in the AP Congress government Dharmana Prasada Rao lodged a police complaint in June 2005 that he had lost his passport twice. He lodged the complaint after he was told by the US consulate in Chennai that another man had travelled to the US on his name. That man remains untraced to this date. Convenient to loose passports and that too twice. If a person cannot keep his passport safe, how can he be given the responsibility of safe gaurding the citizens.

Anybody speaking against the pseudo-secularist policies and parties are considered to be criminalising politics.

A needle in a haystack.

Very true. Condemn all terrorist activities with an equal vigor and voice.

It is not my opinion. If you understand the post, it has been Mr. Nariman's post which I have referred. So silly or not is for others to decide.

What about the Shabbudin??

You are wrong sir. The court wants the current 69 reserved and 31 unreserved to be changed to 69 reserved and 69 unreserved to bring to 50%

I was only referring to the unconstitutional 69%

Mr. Nariman, your own posts you had mentioned on several occassions that being chargesheeted is not all. One needs to be convicted by the courts.

Please do not ask such embarrassing questions.

MOre or less true.

Police is not acting on their own. They are instructed to do so by the politicians.

Associate the links to the claims of TRS MPs and MLAs involvement (Telengana Rashtriya Samithi) to their rebellious stance of quitting UPA and now TRS chief has fallen to the guile of Congress and has indicated possibility of support to UPA. (Blackmailing tactics)

There are worse governance in other states, only reason they are not highlighted is that they are either in the control of Congress or that elections are not expected in the near future as is the case with Gujarath.

Supreme Court has on Monday directed Tamil Nadu to create additional seats in the educational institutions in the open category for the academic year 2007-08 to offset the excess 19 percent reservations in the state. The unconstitutional TN quota system is in trouble. Will have to wait and watch the TN govt. eaction to this ruling.

But our vote bank politics will never come out of this vicious circle.

Ahambhavam (Capital I) is not good.

Flattery and ego boosters for selfish purpose is not good.

Generic sir.

The Officer in-charge of investigating Premkumar has been given dismissal orders fro service for several criminal and illegal activities.

I wish every citizen (Bhumi Putras) contributes 1 Rs towards this cause.

It depends on who is in power and who is the culprit.

We will all have to understand who is controlling the police? Everyone knows that it is the politicians who control? The actions of police are only a reflection of the instructions received.

When imagination can run wild on BJP run states, then why not???

Mr. Jha Congress have given so much. 1. Linguistic issues, 2. Created an university for Corruption, 3. A concept of private Ltd. dynatic party system etc..

You are wrong. The discrimination is there. Will any one mingle with a beggar. Not at all. That is discrimination.

Ha Ha Haa... Congress and the left are pure and holy!!!!!

If you know what Islamisation is and what Christianisation is then, you will automatically know the meaning of Hindutva.

Boss I repeat, I mention only because only one party is being highlighted. In fact in the fake passport case almost the entire spectrum of parties are involved.

Will that be investigated is a big ?????

If it is CBI, all congress men involved will not be booked. My post has been conveniently overlooked by Mr. Nariman.

Their questionable, unconstitutional 69% is at stake as well.

Being in a Congress led state, he has also said that his life is at stake. So we know for sure that no Congress names will come out.

Conveniently ignoring my post on another MLA from AP.

Very true. What about the various fake encounters in Kashmir.

If you know what Islamisation is and what Christianisation is, you will understand what Hindutva is.

Can you identify a beggar on the street by his social status???

Arent people with sound financial status better off than those financially weak also amongst the so-called backward.?

No way by religion. It will lead to induced conversion!!!

It has been going on for 60 years and it has been the same people who have been benefitted.

The financial soundness in most cases is achieved by benefitting from the reservation and attaining sound education.

You are right sir. BUt unfortunately some of our friends may not like it.

My post was for you Mr. Nariman, that the person who lost the passport was from Congress.

How would want to come out of the social backwardness tag to loose the benefit of reservation. Even if everybody wants to throw the caste system, the so-called socially backward would not allow and you know the reasons.

Speaker to be above party politics - How is that possible when he/she is elected by the members of the parliament. The same applies to the President and the Governors as well.

What if a seat sharing is not reached which may lead to the parties fighting against each other during elections?

With the so-called socially backward, but financially strong alone reaping benefits perennially, the genuine will never get the benefit and will continue without any time limit.

How about financial handicap???

Somewhere in your earlier post you had mentioned financial status should not be considered. How about for so-called socially backward but financially sound???

You should also appreciate that he lodged an FIR of lost passport only after the US immigration officials informed that someone else had traveled in his passport. Does it not sound strange.

Interestingly, Revenue Minister in the AP Congress government Dharmana Prasada Rao lodged a police complaint in June 2005 that he had lost his passport twice. He lodged the complaint after he was told by the US consulate in Chennai that another man had travelled to the US on his name. That man remains untraced to this date. Convenient to loose passports and that too twice. If a person cannot keep his passport safe, how can he be given the responsibility of safe gaurding the citizens.

A Pre-election coalition must be made mandatory, which could be kept as a confidential information with the EC / Governor.

The man will open up the PANDORAS Box!!!

What about the missionaries.

How many will, if we have cases like the Manjunath murder.!!!

The question is, have all been caught. The answer is no. Only a selected few have been caught.

To detail further on radhikarajen's posr. # In 1560 Viceroy's building in Goa was modified to become the 'palace of inquisition' with 200 cells with residence of the first inquisitor, house of secret, house of doctrine, any number of cells, and other special ones: of secret, of penitence; of perpetual confinement; of the tortures etc. Those officially responsible for inquisition were endowed with powers higher than those of Viceroys. I would like to present below a summarized calendar of events under the umbrella of Inquisition from 1560 to 1812. Apr-2 1560: Viceroy D Constantine de Braganca ordered that all Brahmins should be thrown out of Goa and other areas under Portuguese control. Feb-7 1575: Governor Antonio Morez Barreto, issued orders that the properties of those Hindus whose 'presence was prejudicial to Christianity' should be confiscated. 1585: The Third Concilio Provincial adopted a resolution asking the king of Portugal to banish from Goa 'the Brahmins, physicians and other infidels' whom the Church finds as an obstacle to convert the 'the heathens' to the 'only true faith'. Jan-31, 1620: Portuguese government ordered that '...no Hindu, of whatever nationality or status he may be, can or shall perform marriages in this city of Goa, nor in the islands or adjacent territories of His Majesty...' 1625: Governor Francisco Barreto, issued orders to 'bar Hindus from seeking employment' in the Portuguese held Indian territory and Portuguese officials were ordered not to 'use the services of any infidel in matters of his office anyway'

Slow on what???

Nothing!!!

MAy be true. They are a force trying to retard the process of ISLAMISATION.

Weed out the terrorists once and for all.

ISLAMISATION and PAPAL culture are truly secular.

Very similarly Congress has also taken to communal politics of MUSLIM appeasement.

Post on expected lines. If you have any valid information please do post it. For your information, The anti-sikh riots, post Indira Gandhi assasination, was a planned by the congressmen which has been substantially proved by the Nanavati Commission indicting Jagdish Tytler, Dharam Das Shastri, Mr H.K.L. Bhagat, former Information and Broadcasting Minister, and many leading Congressmen who have been accused of inciting Congress workers’ crowds to kill and rob Sikhs during the 1984 riots in the national Capital. Congress projects to the world waht it wants to and rest are hidden conveniently.

Then why keep bashing just that one person, who anyway has been projected as the villain of the riots.

Forgive the person. He knows not what he is talking. He has been brainwashed by the pseudo-seculars like most.

Whgat is menat is that Hindutva is a counter to to the barbaric, forced, seduced, induced conversion and ISLAMISATION.

What about those involved in the anti-sikh riots. From what you say, then the CONGRESS which is dead against MODI is also not trust worthy.

Bring in the PAPAL politics.

The MIND & BODY HEART & SOUL of the Indians in general has bee completely brainwashed by the Pseudo-secular thoughts and engineered to accept anything HINDU as communal and the rest SECULAR.

Confused thoughts. Followinf are quotes from some of your earlier posts. "Disaster of the Hindutva movement, if the movement is not saved now" and "Hindutva is a nationalist ideology, based on a modern day version of centralized intolerant Hinduism." in your previous post seem to be contradictory.

Would you mind responding to the overwhelming response your post has received. I dont think one can blame you. Mental blocks created by perverted minds, projecting wrong information with malicious intent to the world at large, with the support of the Theestas, the Arunas, the Aundhatis etc sponsored by ANTI-NATION, ANTI-HINDU agenda of the foreign sponsored NGOs.

"Disaster of the Hindutva movement, if the movement is not saved now" in your current post and "Hindutva is a nationalist ideology, based on a modern day version of centralized intolerant Hinduism." in your previous post seem to be contradictory.

Would you mind dealing in factual figures rather than being generic and vague.

Sharad Pawar came out of Congress because of SOnia's Foreign origin issue, and in the recent UPA ministry formation had no objections to Sonia becoming PM. How absurd!!!

Sharad Pawar was one, who left, came back and again left Congress.

When the citizens of INdia are all trapped in the borewell of dirty Indian political democracy, these are just a small speck of issues.

What is in ones heart alone comes out.

Imaginative way of concealing the corruption???? Well in that Congress is truly an expert.

Who engineered the massacre of sikhs after the Assdsination of Indira??

Spot on sir.

Spot on. We need hard task masters.

When the posts are repeat, the response will also have to be repeats. That shows the consistency in thoughts and views.

Yes the sacrifices of RSS for this ungrateful people of the nation. Truly they have wasted their energy.

That is how a Private Ltd. Company called Congress is surviving.

They go out on vacation at the cost of the tax payers. Please do not be blind. There is something called medical tourism going about in India, which is flourishing. People from UK, US and other super developed countries come here for treatment in this mode. There are 2 factors, one is cost and the other is quality. I am sure people will not forego quality to cost when it comes to their own lives.

May I ask where your fingers are pointing. It seems to have got frozen in one direction. Hypocratic.

I guess there are no such turncoats in COngress???

What about the fake encounters in Kashmir, the mass murders of Kashmiri Pundits. Shouldnt the same be applied to all the CMs who have ruled Kashmir.

Mr. Nariman, this is hypocracy. You seem to say that all parties are corrupt and what does this post indicate. This clearly proves that your sole intent is to target one party overing the corruption of others. Which is what I have been highlighting. You are following double standards.

I repeat, the Congress as you would say have been in power for 50 years and have become adept at not getting caught.

We know of the community which wanted a seperate country and got it. We also know that religion takes precedence over the national honour.

Caste was earlier based on the type of job done. Is that what is happening today??. Are the politicians keen on eradicating illiteracy?? Do they want to have good education infrastructure in the rural areas?? Why are they insisting on inclusion of creamy layers??

It will continue, not by the so-called FCs but by the people who benefit from the reservation. They would not want to loose the benefit and would to continue with the tag.

Will the caste categorization be removed. NOt at all. In fact nobody will want to shed the tag so as not to loose the benefit of continued reservation.

For your information, the OBCs are the most powerful lot in the country today.

It is happening in the urban areas!!!

Where their no MPs of Congress in the cash-for-querry, where there no MPLAD scams involving Congress MPS. The MPLAD scheme was itself schemed for this very purpose by PVNR to please all his dis-jointed Congress MPs and keep them together.

Again, old habits die hard. Pointing fingers at one party alone.

UPA - Unparliamentary Perverted Alliance C - Cunning O - oppressiive N - Nasty G - Gutless R - Revengeful E - Evading S - Surrogate S - STupids

I agree. But have you observed the increase in the skull caps and the purdahs.

Even after supporting the Khilafat, the great tribute and reward which Gandhi got from Maulana Mohammed Ali who paid this 'noble' (!!) tribute to Mahatma Gandhi in 1924 in Aligarh and Ajmer: 'However pure Mr. Gandhiji's character may be, he must appear to me from the point of view of religion inferior to any Mussalman, even though he be without character'. An year later when he was questioned at a public meeting in Lucknow, the immortal and irreplaceable Maulana Mohammed Ali cheerfully accepted and even 'improved' (!!) upon his previous command performance by saying: Yes, according to my religion and creed, I do hold an adulterous and a fallen Mussalman to be better than Mahatma Gandhi. That is religion over national pride for you.

Good thoughts. But some will question the word "HINDUSTANS"

Not at all. It was the slogan which got us the freedom. It has been given the the status of the national song in the constitution. Anyway the abridged Vandemataram (sucummbing to the pressures of muslims pre Independence) has no religious connotations. And yet the clerics and mullahs gave a fatwa that no muslim should sing the Vandemataram. Did the BJP issue this fatwa. Isnt that religious sense prevailing over national pride. Dont hide under the cover of BJP stance. Forget about the BJP and the Fatwa. Will you sing the Vandemataram??

Iam a little inquisitive, Ihave been wanting to know what the ":)) " convey.

What happened post Indira assasnation??? and Who was responsible??

Oh, they do posses a degree in engineering!!!

Thankyou sir.

Deliberately kept the majority of the rural masses illiterate by not providing proper primary and secondary education infrastructure. You know which was the party in control of the nation for the major part of the 60 years.

I would say to ignite unwanted passions for their own political sustenance.

Boss it is not that I support corruption. All my counters have been because you have been always painting only BJP as a corrupt party. Why not the Bofors and the OIL-for-food scam. Bofors is still hot and deliberately the funds have been de-frozen and Mr. Q still away but still right in front of the CBI and impotent to take any action. Thanks to the order from the Italian Mafia. I think it is your post which is hypocratic, ignoring those scams but pointing out a specific parties individuals mis-deeds.

The Issue on Vandemataram both historically and the latest is a clear indication of religion taking precedence to patriotic zeal.

True.

Exactly sir.

Thanks. I did see your post.

One would be a fool to believe that corruption is restricted to a few politicians. It is in almost every blood of most politicians across the political spectrum.

PLease sir. My post also states only that all politicians are corrupt. It is only that some people have pointing at the corruption of a specific party, which is why Iam countering. Iam not egoistic, nor do I want everyone to agree with what I say. Just as others have a right to state as you mentioned, I also have the right to post my views. Take it or leave is the choice left to individuals.

Your last line speaks volumes about yourself.

It is not just this gentleman. Many have been fooled to believe that quota has been struck down by the SC, thanks to the politicians and the media.

I need no sympathy. And for you any scam in which Congress is involved is only allegation. Very fine have it that way if it makes you happy. You seem never to understand the post and have your own logic on assessing people.

Thanks.

Reservation into higher education without primary and secondary education. Direct to higher education through reservation. Great. Confused. Now you are bringing economic criteria!!

Relating quota and serving the nation is illogical. The action that need to be taken is that, all those who leave the country after benefiting subsidised education will have to reimburse to the extent of the subsidy.

Iam sorry to say, none have seen through my post. It is not that Iam supporting. It is just that some people are focussing on a specific party for its corruption charges, which is what I am trying to highlight, that corruption is all pervasive,

Are we safe with the party that protects people like Afzal!!!

Absolutely no prejudice in your posts sir!!!.

Nonsense or with sense, that is how the politics is in our country. Please try to explain in your own way if you think there is no corruption in politics. May be Iam dumb and not able to express in the most intelligent way like you.

My dear sir, in villages first let the govt. have proper primary and secondary infrastructure. In what way will the rural benefit from reservation in higher education when they donot have even the basic infrastructure. Shall we then say that reservation should be for people who have been educated from the rural areas only.

Which is what Hindus are fearing, and the stupid Pseudo-seculars are blind to it.

There can never be a Scar on HINDUISM.

And sarees all tied so as not reveal anything.

I have repeated several times and you seem to avoiding to respond. You have accepted that It has become a business and the investment cannot be reaped multifold just with the salary which they receive as MLA and MP. Secondly, the Sarees are well tied, not to be caught un-awares.

What he wants to convey is that Congress is absolutely clean.

Why iamgine are we blind to the fact that the spineless Congress has a representaive from the Italian Mafia land, a criminal MP absconded from Nepal to get Indian Citizenship, thanks to the Congress.

You have yourself accepted, that poltics is like a business and people invest in it to reap multifold in the quickest possible time. Why this fuss about scams.

Well why not. Survival instincts. Otherwise, there is a fear of being trampled and crushed, thanks to the mughal marauders.

It all started with the murderous attack by mughals, coming with a religion of violent political intentions. This attempted to come in the very path.

It has generally been accepted by all that politics has become a business and people invest in it during elections to reap multifold while in power in the quickest possible time. Do uou think the salary they receive as MP/MLA will give them back their expected returns???

I thought you said that all politicians are corrupt.

Exposes??? Yes when takes it up as a sole job doing nothing, then things will definitely come out. After all you have yourself accepted that politics is a business, where in people invest to reap multi-fold. Do you think it will come in a straight forward manner.

My dear sir 2 vouchers listed in the Volcker report. One confirmed up by way of a planned Congress drafted commission of inquiry. What about the other???

Imports from Italy, from Nepal are not imagination sir. And definitely Venezuala is in the pipe line.

Well the Congress's Sarees are too well tied to be caught unwares as they are experienced in this form of art!!!

Can the Congress raise it head and be proud of its MPs?????

Isnt Congress also playing the same shady communal politivs og minority appeasement.?

We all know the old FOX too well.!!!

When forces trample across this way of life obstructing the path, this is bound to happen.

Hindutva will and should stay until there is minority appeasement. The pseudo-secularists should stop Islam-embracing, Christianity coveting policy and then talk of Hindutva stopping.

Obviously at the cost of Hindus, to the benefit of the minorities.

You are right. Not only the media but also many NGOs with anti-nation and anti-hindu agenda funded by overseas orgn.

None sir. The country will be raped LEFT, RIGHT and CENTER

That is the root cause sir for any act of rebellion.

They are exporting. But Congress is importing from POK and the North-East, which is a going to only jeopardise the national security.

Isnt the OIL_for-food scam an international shame. This has heightened the prestige of the country in the international fora by the CONGRESS!!!!!

To add further, I never mentioned only Congress. I said Congress first, as they claim to be the oldest party.

Well yes. But the entire blame should go to the Congress as they started the minority appeasement process even before partition.

They were the one who started the appeasement policy even at the time of Independence and have mastered it into an art. This being the case would the others sit quite and twiddle their thumbs.

May be BJP is not as cunning as the Congress to avoid getting caught red handed,

It was all started by the Congress, right since Independence.

It should be no surprise. One aspect many fail to understand is that only when one side of the coin is projected, do I respond. Let every one stop, and that would be the best thing that could happen. But I can scream from the roof top and vouch that Congress and the pseudo-seculars will not stop. And to retard and counter the shady politics of the Congress we need parties like the BJP.

I responded to your claims of christian orgn.!!!

Any problems with this post. It is not a law. There are no hard and fast rules. It only guides people on a good way of living and the fruits which one gets out of such a living. Any deviation from it will only lead one to miseries. As it is not a law, there needs no monitoring, and benefits or otherwise is automatically taken care off by the acts. That is Hinduism.

Which the Congress is doing from POK and from Bangladesh, and they are experts at that. It will be a vain attempt to take up something when there are already experts in that.

Anything wrong in the slogan "Jai Bharath Matha". After All Bharath is another name to India.

I can imagine what your reaction would have been if the exit pools had been the other way around.!!!

You are right. We can see the arrogance of those in the increased numbers and their show of command in political results and their skull caps and veils.

Very correct.

Which the Congress is doing from POK and from Bangladesh, and they are experts at that. It will be a vain attempt to take up something when there are already experts in that.

It is not a law. There are no hard and fast rules. It only guides people on a good way of living and the fruits which one gets out of such a living. Any deviation from it will only lead one to miseries. As it is not a law, there needs no monitoring, and benefits or otherwise is automatically taken care off by the acts. That is Hinduism.

Which the Congress is doing from POK and from Bangladesh, and they are experts at that. It will be a vain attempt to take up something when there are already experts in that.

But they have several bright 1000 watt lights focussed on minor issues, magnifying them a million times.

Which the Congress is doing from POK and from Bangladesh, and they are experts at that. It will be a vain attempt to take up something when there are already experts in that.

I can imagine what your reaction would have been if the exit pools had been the other way around.!!!

You are right. We can see the arrogance of those in the increased numbers and their show of command in political results and their skull caps and veils.

You are right. Unfortunately the Pvt. Ltd. Company of a dynasty has brainwashed the gullible general public right since Independence.

I think Congress must first try to understand what you have stated.

The way Congress and the Pseudo-secular parties have taken the nation since Independence, it is the majorities that have started to become nervous, which can be easily observed in the increase in numbers by a specific minority.

But the have several bright 1000 watt lights focussed on minor issues, magnifying them a million times.

Sorry to say you are ignorant of the culture of the Seventh-day-Advantists.

Isnt it good that such bad elements are reduced within the country by way of exporting those!!!

Good that he did not say Jai Mary Matha!!!

I dont think I should give the nuances in English. Please understand the significance of the phrase wait and watch.

True not one-off. We have had the famous oil-for-food scam of which one has been made a scape goat and the main accused Congress has gone scot free, and the bofors kick backs running to a multi million scam involving Congress.

In politics, one has to be on a wait and watch stance. Otherwise one will thrown to oblivion.

Dont go into generalisation and give a rating all by yourself.

Congress is the fore-runner in this art.

Congress Consulting allies??? How many issues have come out, especially those raised by the Left on non-conformance to CMP and consultations!!!

Why do you come to your own conclusion. I dont think I need to give you any briefing on coalition politics.

I have responded.lease check the response below.

Why do you want to deviate from the post. We are on the "ON" "OFF" topic raised by you.

Minority appeasement. Havent we heard of the statements of Sonia and congressmen after the Mumbai train blasts. Investigations and enquiries are termed harassment and statements issued stating minorities will not be harassed.

Unlike many foreign funded NGOs which are involved in anti-nation agenda.

Destroying our culture and heritage and thrusting an alien culture is also terrorism.

That is your version.

That again is your version sir. Personal Feelings could be wrong.

Conversion is also a form of terroism, destroying our glorious culture and heritage!!

Pls also let me know what Congress is doing on its favourite plans of dis-investments and privatisation in PSU's

I have responded to the post.

What agenda do the people in Islamic republics have???? What agenda do the people in the VATICAN have????

It requires an independent majority to execute ones plans. May I ask what is happenning to COngress economic reforms especially on the disinvestment and privatisation of PSUs.

It requires a 2 3rd majority and moreover it was coalition and BJP did not have an independent majority.

Congress has been governing for almost 50 years since Independence!!!

"On" or "Off" is opinion generated. There has been no change in the agenda.

Yes mis-guided by the Gandhi Tag.

Nothing wrong, if it is to develop our own culture and heritage.

But natural to term any question absurd if one is unable to.

To develop our culture and heritage is nothing wrong. But we are blind to the funds being collected and spent on developing alien cultures and heritage.

When un-comfortable questions are asked, they are termed absurd.!!!

When there can be no answers, the questions turn absurd!!!

The internal collection is because whatever the collections from Hindu temples are being diverted to other religious activities in the garb of Govt. departments like Hindu Endowment funds. The funds generated by the Churches and Mosques are not touched by the govt.

A policy, a principle estabilished by Congress

The on and Off has been projected by the media and the opposition parties to BJP. Its agenda has always been the same.

Among the top ten millionaire MPs, 8 are from Congress!!!

You are right. They will have no proper answers.

What about the loot of funds from temple collections by the Govt. in the garb of Hindu endowment, and diverting to other religions.

Ot of the 60 years, Congress has been in power for almost 50 years!!!

They are a lot of NGO's funded by overseas orgn. with a clear anti-nation agenda and these people are turning a blind eye to that menace and casting aspersions on money collected to develop our own glorious culture and heritage.

The root cause for all this is the Congress for their Islam-embracing, christianity covetting, mafia controlled policies. A backlash for all that is but natural.

We have had enough of christening. Let us now have "Namkaran"

You are wrong. Congress has been doing just that.

Hindus have been forced into being a 3rd class citizen of the country, thanks to the minority appeasing, islamic embracing, christianity covetting pseudo-secular parties. Tollerance and patience has a limit, and the bubble burst is what is being seen.

Whoever returns wherever or goes wherever is insignificant. CONGRESS should go out of the INdian political Scene. And that alone is going to be the best thing that can happen.

True, but there is no reciprocation.

Iam not refuting any of what you have said. My intentions of the post was to counter the singling of BJP for de-recogniition.

For this the Anti-Hindu pseudo-secular would want to fall back on the concept of yuga and equate an year to it.

The residue should go through the process of purification and recycled.

T S Krishnamurthy, the former Election Commissioner has rightly said on behalf of all the citizens of India: 'If all the Electoral Rules are ruthlessly implemented by the Election Commission in letter and spirit then all the political parties in India will have to be derecognized forth with'

I, MY, ME...

May be they are equating an year to an yuga!!!

Unification?? No way will our hawk like politicians allow such a thing to happen.

Today the politicians are the oppressors!!!

Anyway, there are a few who are fighting for specific jobs and not allowing others to take that job, especially the ones which you think are dirty.

The type of job is decided not by ones birth but what one can get to satisfy the belly and the rest below.

It is to be filtered and only then the water becomes potable.

For your information, it is not the brahmins who are stooping the progress of the so-called backward but the OBCs as stated by a survey in UP.

Being Holy or unholy lies in ones mind!!!

Karuna has been much worse. He has stated statements like, if you see a brahmin and a snake, kill the brahmin and leave the snake.

In India atleast the minorities are protected for their vote bank. In other accalimed religious countries, minorities are continiously decimated and are close to zero % population.

And we do not mind fighting for the protection of the live of people like Afzal, and ignore the sacrifices of the security personnel who save d the Parliament and the MPs.

You are correct. So it is not fair to blame all brahmins. Guru is a teacher. Gone are the days of Brahmins alone being teachers and in teaching profession. So as you can see the trends have changed. Let us change our hardcore beliefs.

Sorry to hear about your ill-health. I hope you have recovered completely.

As you said we are not aware. Let it be that we are not aware. Please do whatever you want within your own state and do not involve others in your activities.

Is that a threat?

The TN govt. has stated that will be providing exclusive quota for Muslims and Christians over and above the existing 69%, which initself is un-constitutional. Shouldnt there be a law to curb such un-constitutional statements especially from the ruling parties, fooling the public as has already been seen in the AP instance.

What are you doing in INdia, Bangalore.

ABsolutely. There is a mental block.

Iam aware that industrialization is also in the agriculture sector. But if you read my post, the focus of CPI-M as regards industrialization is concerned is not targeted at the agri sector.

The TN govt. is planning to implement an exclusive reservation for the Muslims and Christians. Abnoxious to the core.

How do you think this works in countries like the US?

That is were the technical committee comes in and that is their role to prove or disprove such claims.

Good all right. But I would like to hear the comments from the left supporters.

As per the root post of Radhikarajen, the best fit to a forward calss are the politicians. a. They are the people who are not deprived of dignified life. b. They have a very lucrative means of livelihood. c. To them justice (So-called) is not delayed. d. Their children need not walk 15-20 kms for their education. In all probability they will probably have teachers come to their homes to teach. e. They will probably have a mini hospital at their residence. etc...

Therein lies the political acumen. Barter your strengths against the weakness of the seller of the commodity you want.

The CPI-M is planing for a nationwide campaign which would highlight the need for industrialization. The party argues that in Left ruled states agriculture has developed well enough to ensure food sufficiency. But too many people depending on small land holdings are increasingly making agriculture unproductive. That is why the state governments must focus on industrialisation.

We were world no. 1 in hockey and today we are a nobody in hockey, while in Chess we have several exceptional players. So as time goes things will also have to change according to capabilities and strength and not rely on age old past history.

But we have a world no. 1 in Vishvanathan Anand!!

Prabhakaran may have different plans.

Effectively the politcians are forward class!!!

Every thing has to be looked at as a business proposition. Anything which brings in more money and increases the foreign exchange reserves is to be of prime consideration. Afterall one is not self sufficient in everything. There are some which need to be boughtout and if one is able to generate the forex reserve there is nothng wrong in importing and some times the cost of inporting is cheaper than internal production.

Prabhakaran had even during the initial stages of his fight hinted at linking Jafna and TN as a unit.

You have forgotten, that we have hostile anti-india Indians within the country.

This has been truncated!!!!

The hospitals prior to any operation, takes a declaration from of the next kith or Kin of the patient on a form stating that the hospital will not be held responsible for any adverse effects of the operation. Any reasons why???

I know he is at fault. I am not encouraging him at all. I am attempting to correct his thought process.

Wether it is by Dalits are by someone else, those elected become corrupt, once they see power accompanied by money.

Better to ignore and not respond at all.

Should we stoop to such low levels boss. We should show the difference and guide them.

And one cannot just keep eating alone. One needs clothing and shelter as well and for which you know what we require.

But the Indian doctors do not want to take-up any accountability or responsibility. That is the reason why they are against being brought into consumer protection act.

Why havent you seen the temples destroyed by the mughals???

Have we had any meaningful posts from thyself, except curse and pass judgments on others.

No one claims to be clever or knows everything. One tries to present to others what one knows. It may be right or it may be wrong and that is the purpose of this board to debate. It is only ones perception of the other and it could be wrong.

Boss it is the other way round. Large scale industries leads to development of ancillary small scale industries for subcontracting. If you observe in most cases, there will be a mushrooming of small scale industries around the township of large scale industries.

What is the basis of getting a list of BPL?

It is not just 10 or 20 marks. It is almost 35 marks. A person who gets 95% may mis out his chances to a person who gets just 60%.

There is a general mis-belief that whatever the populists peoples representatives decides is the ultimate and true and cannot be wrong.

Let it not be in one day. Let them take their own sweet time. Prove the basis for reservation on scientific data and there will be no objections.

Let us no have judiciary to judge the criminal politicians. Let us have only the so called democracy controlled by dirty politicians like Lalu, paswans, shibu sorens etc who will swindle and the poor will say it is peoples representative who has done it and keep quite.

What is your opinion on including the creamy layer?

Some unfit get the licence to kill by by way of money power and some through reservations.

You are right sir.

TN has 69% reservation which is now under scrutiny. So he is nervous.

The number of years is immaterial. The fact one should consider is that at best at any point in time there probably will be max 3 generations.

Doesnt large industries provide employment???

There is a difference. The courts decision is not claimed to be the peoples opinion. It is only deciding whether the so-called people representatives opinion is right or wrong. If the peoples representative opinion decides that the entire 100% is to be reserved, will this view be taken up as correct and accepted. To decide the right and wrong is what is the duty of the courts.

I dont think all of us are farmers. The currency that we earn is not what we eat. We obviously go in for a barter by exchanging the currency we have with the edible item of our choice. This applies to global barters as well.

Have a law first and then alone we should talk of whether public is going to take law into their own hands. If that be the case there need be no law, since in most cases public take law into their own hands and their shining examples are the leaders themselves. Obviously when such a law is passed, the process also need to be finalised and the expert committees will have to be in place.

My dear sir, electricity. As per the claims of tall the govt. almost 90% of the villages have undergone electrification. And even those are subsidised.

In the rural the usage of petrol/diesel is very limited and the public transport is what rural people are dependent on.

Petrol/diesel are not of significant usage in the rural as most depend on either the public transport or bullock cart technology.

Having invested money in acquiring the medical degree, one will have to be only a saint not to look for money.

In what way is buying a service different from buying a tangible product? When you go in for an A/C service and if that results in poor service by the Agency, does not the consumer go to the consumer protection forum?

There is no accountability, and that is why we have doctors getting away with murders.

Even in an un-organised in the urban, the increase is proportionate. A semi-skilled worker who used to get 50Rs a day is now getting 300 per day.

A surgeon performs an operation and if due to sheer negligence a life is lost, do you think the dr. can get away, just because of the various factor?

Is it impracticable only in India? Does no other countries has this in place?

India needs to be worried, especially because of the Pro-LTTE parties in power in TN.

To be brought under Consumer protection act.

The ratio of income to expenditure will accordingly vary between rural and Urban. Your reference to multifold increase in rentals was also with reference to metros.

You should also look at salaries sir. A five figure salary was probably the retirement compensation, now a raw graduate gets that.

Yes different yardsticks for different sections, the philosophy of the pseudo-seculars.

They are afraid to reveal the records and taking the easy route.

It is neither and It is my choice. You may come to any judgment that you may feel appropriate.

"Only if force is used against the victim". What is the act if a pickpocket relieves you of your purse without your knowledge. Meaning of Steal To take (the property of another) without right or permission. or To present or use (someone else's words or ideas) as one's own. or To get or take secretly or artfully: steal a look at a diary; steal the puck from an opponent. Meaning of stealth (Derived from Steal) - The act of moving, proceeding, or acting in a covert way. or Having or providing the ability to prevent detection

I dont want to pass any judgement on you.

Really Shocking. Damn this NAtion which does not respect its freedom fighters.

What if I say you dont have access at all, if the owner is not interested in the money you pay. Replace the Govt. from my earlier post, with some one like you, who takes posession of all the land around yours, and announces that you donot have any access to any of the lands acquired by him, what would be your position?

IF that satisfies you, please enjoy.

Let us for a moment assume that you are involved in an accident (I wish it does not happen) and in a helpless state requiring the assistance of someone else. What would be your position if that person is a selfish person and leaves you to fend on your own. What would be your reaction.

I guess your favorite author must be Ayn Rand and Capitalism advocated by her.

This is also one of the meaning for "selfish" - Caring supremely or unduly for one's self; regarding one's own comfort, advantage, etc., in disregard, or at the expense, of those of others. Watch the Phrase "Disregard, or at the expense of Those of others". At the expense of others is stealing.

Will you be giving education to your children?? Will you take care of all your wife's needs?

But the private party also have the right to decide who can and cannot use it??

Oh My!! a simple debate can have such impact. I do not want to initiate any further on this.

Selfishness breeds corruption. When one is truly selfish, one would want to have everything any which way, even if it is illegal.

When one is truly selfish, one would want to have everything any which way, even if it is illegal.

"Public purpose" is that which is accessible to all citizens. Take the example of Roads. Land possessed by the Govt. authorised for use by all citizens and can move to places accessing those lands. Let us say the govt. acquires from willing owners, lands surrounding yours and builds a wall on its acquired lands, would be your position?

For your information, as per the article of the Deccan Chronicle last week, 8 of the top 10 Millionaire MPS are from Congress.

The dynasty is enough example to all that you have listed. Do you know that among the top 10 Millionaire MPs. 8 are from the Congress.

How about Quattrochi???

Only there is something to understand will one even attempt.

If you are referring to the analysis of the post, I normally read the post, analyse and then only respond.

Can you tell me the basis for the 7 generations.

In fact that was my post, if you trace back the message thread.

Punishment not yet executed. Only judgment delivered.

It is an example of Nationalist and nationalistic attitudes.

May I ask what kind of posts you post gentleman. Moreover I would like to show one post which is a lie and not a fact.

It was another example of so-called NAtionalists and natinalistic attitudes.

I agree all those need to be addressed. As regards labeling, it is done by those people themselves shouting from the roof tops. As regards the facilities, the politicians swindle and swallow all the subsidies, not necessarily these specific allocations but from almost all possible subsidies.

Corrupt Babus Institute.

That is sadism.

Quite True sir. The supreme commander of the Congress is one such case, who has never trusted this country, and almost took 10 years to take up Indian citizenship. Even now one cannot be sure.

The politicians are responsible and are probably getting a share from the booty.

What if one is in a jungle??

Iam sure we have a lot of housekeeping to be done in our own country considering the issues that we have to confront and rather spend time on our very own problems.

And they also dont pay the rent of their Republican party office accumulated to the tune of 11 laks, have the arrogance to say they will be deciding the course of action when the office sealed based on rulings from the HC. They will play the game of saying oppression even in this issue even though they have clearly defaulted.

Atleast in my posts there are some points which are debated. IN all your posts, people can see only personal affronts and no worthwhile debating contents.

At times when you dont have SUN coming out, you need firewood / coal supplements.

Not true sir. In the case of Singur, the farmers were paid at 12 to 15 lakhs per acre depending on the type of land being either a single or multi crop. This is probably one of the highest paid by any govt acquisition. Moreover all the displaced farmers were gauranteed jobs in the industry that is planned.

That shows your ignorance and your blind mental block.

What about the failures of the Maharashtra Govt. on the Dalit killing, what about the failure of the UPA on the Afzal issue etc. etc..

Is the media clever or somebody controlling it is clever.

Iam referring to the media silence on these issues.

There is a sudden lull in almost all fronts as the purpose of TRP rating has been achieved and the money made. LAll, Katara, Afzal etcc.. are all of them not in cold storage???

What do you think of the linking of river waters!!

The RSS is and has been attempting. Unfortunately, there are a few parties which donot want this unity to ever see the light of the day as that would seriously affect their being in power. Those parties have been creating a divide continuously by dubious means.

I have never initated. Only when there is a one sided aspersion casting that I comment. Even in the media, people are talking only of the Gujarath riots, who is ever talking of the Godhra Train carnage. Tollerance has limits. It is only because of the tollerance that several faiths have been practising in this country.

Any idea what geographic boundaries you have in mind sir???

My dear, it appears that you have not read my post. I have clearly spelt the reasons for such laws. Please respond to that if you can. Himachal Pradesh ruled by Congress has also recently promulgated this law.

To be read as "a curse to this great Nation"

You are right. Politics and politicians are a course to this great nation.

I am not sure how a person who sold the brief case would become one of the accused. If this is so one can never do any business. At best the person could only be interrogated for clues.

Lalu Prasad is also voicing the views of Advani.

The imported price of products are cheaper. So will it not be wise that we focus on those which generate revenue and foreign exchange, which can be utilised for import of food grains, while in shortage.

If that is so we should have been a superpower and the farmers should have been the Tatas, the Narayanamurthys, the Ambanis and the Mittals.

Strategy to increase the viewer ship sir.

Selective or otherwise, those are facts. And to enlighten those who need is a virtue.

There is only among the list which you provided.

Which Gandhi??

Does that mean that UPA is a good Govt. just because it has survived for more than 2 years.

Like the UPA???

Basically because the political career of a politician is itself un-certain.

IF you dont know the history of Islam in India, please try to read about it.

Please respond to my post instead of posting irrelevant posts. Worship everything including all that is part of Nature sir and that is Hinduism.

Mind your language sir.

It is not necessarily only betwee nations. It is an act or state of agreeing between parties regarding a course of action.

UNderstand one thing. Can you tell me what the law states? Moreover the law does not prevent from switching to Budhisim, whereas the other religions are seducing. Secondly, after all for most govermental formalities, the application forms require religion or community, which needs to be supported by a community certificate. This certificate is issued by the Tashildar. The religion at the time of birth is available in the birth certificate. However when people switch faith, without proper recording of such changes to a governmental agency, how can a community certificate be issued. This is necessary and authorised by a district magistrate. It is just a formality and why is it that people are objecting.

All of us know the twists and turns the course can take, some legally, some artificially.

My dear Indian, he has asked me read the poona pact, which I have read and I have quoted what it has. So I dont know who is talking sense and who is not.

Do you know the history of Mooplah Muslims of Kerala???

Why not you?

Then England should be ruling the world now. Are they???

Dr B R Ambedkar himself was not happy with the Poona Pact.

The Babri structure and several such so called mosques where built after destroying the temples. Please do not forget the the masacre that tiik place in kerala during the Khilafat movement, when several Hindus where murdered who defied conversions to Islam.

Be specific. I donot own a piece of land.

I have read it and it talks of reserved constituency in the electoral process, which is in place. I do not know what is that you want to convey.

You are wrong. I quote from the pact "The pact confirmed that, "...henceforth, amongst Hindus no one shall be regarded as an untouchable by reason of his birth and they will have the same rights in all the social institutions as the other Hindus have"

The current lot of politicians both from states and the center must be removed from this country. The personnel from Administratiove services, the defence and management graduates should form the core controlling group with the president having overall powers.

Slave mentality.

These rich become poorer and some politicians become richer from these rich.

The fear is not from any external source. The fear is from our very own Muslims, which the pseudo-secular do not want to lose from their vote bank.

Is this being practised by the left. Why is it commenting on the Sachar Commitee report and insisting on it implementation.

Oh yes, "STAY FREE", "CARE FREE" or "WHISPERS" not at the cost of bleeding.

In which case the govt. should remove any form of reservation based on caste.

It is not a concern. Ethics which the left claims thy follow, moreover, It is just that some are not aware of what is happenning. Inducement and seduction is not legally valid. We are now with a begging bowl asking for alms from the US and natuarally armtwisting in all forms are expected.To satisfy, the laws of the land are conveniently manipulated by such un-scruplous agents, duly supported by political outfits for their narrow selfish gains.

It is not a concern. It is just that some are not aware of what is happenning. Inducement and seduction is not legally valid. The laws of tha land are conveniently manipulated by such un-scruplous agents, duly supported by political outfits for their narrow selfish gains.

Good suggestion. No Business with Kashmir and an all out embargo should be put in place.

Granted. With the reservation in vogue, would anybody who want to claim the benefit avoid the tag. In fact they will scream at the top of their voice that they belong to a specific caste.

The president of the so-called super power Mr. Bush has openly promoted a close and continuous cooperation between the White House, CIA, and all the Evangelical Organizations like the International Mission Board, Southern Baptist Convention, Christian Aid, World Vision, Seventh Day Adventist Church and multi-billion enterprises run by Evangelists like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and Roger Houtsma, etc. Thus it will be clear that under the direct personal supervision of President Bush, the US Government's faith-based initiatives have funded major Christian groups in the US to pursue their programme of massive religious conversions. Joshua Project II deploys paid evangelical spies all over India to get an accurate picture of opportunities and challenges facing their large-scale conversion programme in our country.

Within or outside the constitution.

After all the reservations that have been provided since independence, now claims are on for reservation of land!!!

But you have also referred to preferential treatment, which is being promoted on religious grounds.

Can you define DALIT. I think enough reservations have been provided for the SC/ST since Independence in education, employment etc.

Another from the land of Italian Mafia, who has filed incorrect educational affidavits to the election commission while submitting candidature for elections.

freedom of erection?

I too had similar doubts!!

And they are also utilizing the services of people like you, who have an anti-India attitude.

Oh yes, we have seen in the western countries several instances of streakers and public display of acts which ought to be done within the confines of the four walls.

Can you tell me what type of Orgn. the SIMI, DEOBAND and the likes are?

There need be no secret. He drifted away from the RSS as he was unhappy with RSS in not pushing the anti-partition drive. There need be no secret enquiries. Convenient to say Sardar Patel was lying. If that be so what explanation be given to the Congress requesting RSS to merge with it, which was downright rejected by the then RSS chief.

Very well said.

She is nobody. Anybody acting against the country has to do so.

Portrayed so by the agencies which wants to increase their numerical strengths.

Well said.

The Grasshoppers will continue to benefit the easy way for ages.

Brilliant and thought provoking.

Everything is only so-called now and not actually called so.

All these are in the archives and you can use the RTI act to get these information if you want it to authentic. You do not have anyother betterway to counter I guess.

Was also afraid of the presence of Nethaji.

Irrelevant post.

The Independent observation funded by anti-national foreign NGOs.

Do you want the datewise list of systematic masacre of the Hindus in Kashmir?

Their were no minorities before the barbaric mughal Invasion and the british slavery rule.

They will have their own mis-placed logic to explaun their stance.

Please respond to my posts on RSS. Since you have not responded, it is clear that you are ignorant of the services of RSS. It is just that you have a mental block and working with a brainwashed agenda set by someone else.

Un-patriotic and treason. Please give up your Indian citizenship if you have one. India would be better of without a traitor like you.

Mr. Inamdar would you care to read my posts and respond. The fact that you have not responded, clearly indicates that you are ignorant of the services of RSS and have been posting anti-RSS views with a mental block and a brainwashed agenda.

Rabindranath Tagore and CR Das were great friends. In 1924, Tagore's genuine fears about the divided loyalty of Muslims appeared in Times of India (18-4-1924): 'A very important factor which is making it almost impossible for Hindu-Muslim unity to become an accomplished fact is that the Muslims cannot confine their patriotism to any one country. I had frankly asked many Muslims whether, in the event of any Mohammedan power invading India, they would stand side by side with their Hindu neighbours to defend their common motherland, I was not satisfied with the reply I got from them. I can definitely state that such men as Mr.Mohammed Ali have declared that under no circumstances is it permissible for any Mohammden whatever be his country to stand against any Mohammadan'.

Immediately after the murder of Mahatma Gandhi, the same Communist Party of India (CPI) started launching a tirade against the R.S.S. holding them responsible for the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi. K.M. Munshi, Union Congress Minister, wrote in 'Organiser' on October 4, 1949: 'CPI is the enemy of Indian Nationalism, tied to the chariot wheel of USSR; R S S is fanatically Nationalist, worshipping Bharath Mata with high powered emotion, looking to ancient India alone for inspiration. CPI seeks to undermine the foundation of well-ordered life in order to bring about an upheaval; R.S.S. builds up the foundation of an unyielding discipline to take over, should the Nationalist Movement fall before the CPI. To CPI, Lenin, Stalin and USSR are the Father, Son and Holy Ghost; to R S S India is the Divine Mother, at whose altar self-immolation is bliss. What is USSR to CPI, ancient Bharath is to R S S The Church of CPI is materialism; the Church of R S S is Dharma buttressed with ancient traditions'.

A few months ago the BBC had come out with a TV programme in which they had announced to the world that the RSS is the biggest voluntary non-Governmental social welfare organization in the whole world.

The whole dishonesty of the Government of India right from the start can be seen from a letter sent by Sardar Patel to Pandit Nehru on 27 February, 1948, less than a month after Mahatma Gandhi's assassination on 30 January, 1948: 'I have kept myself almost in daily touch with the progress of the investigations regarding Bapu's assassination case. All the main accused have given long and detailed statements of their activities. It also clearly emerges from the statements that the RSS was not involved in it at all'.

This what some stalwarts like Sardar Patel had to say. Sardar Patel to Sri guruji Golwalkar. "There is no doubt that the RSS has served the Hindu society in times of crisis. In riot-torn areas where their help was needed, the youths of the Sangh protected the women and the children and did a lot for them. No one can doubt that the R.S.S. provided succour and safety to Hindus in times of difficulty.' Field Marshal Cariappa, whose patriotism can, perhaps, paid his tribute to the R.S.S. after watching their heroic work in Jammu and Kashmir: 'RSS is my heart's work. My dear young men, don't be disturbed by uncharitable comments of interested persons. Look ahead! Go ahead! The country is standing in need of your services' Nehru had asked RSS for protection while addressing a rally in a riot torn area at the time of Independence.

When Pakistan attacked Bharath in 1965, Lal Bahdur Shastri, the then Prime Minister, personally rang up Shri Guruji who was then touring Maharashtra and requested him to be in New Delhi for the All Leaders Conference the following day. Shri Guruji placed the entire RSS at the disposal of the Government of India to fight the invaders and to safeguard the integrity of our motherland. In Delhi, for the entire period of 22 days of war, police duties like traffic control and patrolling were transferred to Swayamsevaks to free the police for more pressing tasks. Right from the beginning of the war, everyday hundreds of Swayamsevaks daily reported at the General Military Hospital, Delhi to offer blood. The military looked upon the Sangh as a friend in need. Likewise during the BanglaDesh War in 1971, the Swayamsevaks of the Sangh played a vital role in assisting the Government of India in their war efforts against Pakistan.

Shri Guruji the Chief of RSS then wrote from the prison: 'It is now almost eight months and nothing can remain to be investigated into against me or the RSS. I am sure you are convinced that the allegations against the RSS have been found to be without foundation in facts. It is therefore a case for simple justice, which we have a right to expect from a government which we have always considered our own.' Sardar Patel sent a reply to Shri Guruji stating 'there can be no doubt that the RSS did service to Hindu society. In the areas where there was the need for help and organisation the young men of the RSS protected women and children and strove much for their sake. I am strongly convinced that the RSS men can carry on their patriotic endeavour only by joining the Congress and not by keeping separate or opposing'. Shri Guruji, a man of indomitable courage and invincible faith, categorically told Nehru and Patel that he would not be cowed down by their intimidation or threats to join the CONGRESS. In a public meeting in Gwalior on 5 December, 1948 Sardar Patel said: 'Some people say the Sangh is going to start a Satyagraha. But these people can never conduct a Satyagraha , their Satyagraha can never succeed. We had advised them to 'join the Congress' and had tried to bring about a change of heart among them. I warn them, we are ready to face such challenges'.

# On 2 August, 1954, 100 Sangh Swayamsevaks stormed the Portuguese enclaves of Dadra and Nagar Haveli. The attack was led by Vinyak Rao Apte, Pune Sanghchalak. They attacked the main police headquarters at Selvassa and forced the 175 soldiers there to surrender unconditionally. The national tri-colour flag was hoisted and the region handed over to the Central Government on the same day. Like-wise the first to unfurl the national flag over the Panaji Secretariat in Goa in 1955 was a Swayamsevak working as a teacher in Goa. He was put in prison in a Lisbon jail for full 17 years till 1972 well after Goa was liberated in 1961. I cannot help surmising that Government of India was not interested in his earlier release only because he was a Swayamsevak!

Mr.Moulana Mohammed Ali declared that under no circumstances is it permissible for any Mohammden whatever be his country to stand against any Mohammadan".

Yes they did, they do and will continue to do. Do you Know Moulana Mohammed Ali called Mahatma Gandhi in 1924 in Aligarh and Ajmer: 'However pure Mr. Gandhiji's character may be, he must appear to me from the point of view of religion inferior to any Mussalman, even though he be without character' Do you know that Mr.Mohammed Ali declared that under no circumstances is it permissible for any Mohammden whatever be his country to stand against any Mohammadan".

It will never get removed as to satisfy the system which has been recomended one has to display the tag.

The Gujarat riots has been the sole propaganda of the global religious numerical count increase and soul harvesting marketing organizations, to systematically decimate Hinduism and Hindus with one sided projections.

There are no jesus christs to show the other cheek when slapped on one cheek!!!

What about the SIMI, the DEOBAND etc...

Dont expect Hindus to be docile anylonger (gone or the days of the likes of surrendering to the Mughals) to show their chests, when encountered by bullets or sit and twiddle their thumbs.

Misguided converts?

All people killed in the Godhra train carnage were Hindus.

Survival of the fittest.

Who are the THEM and who are INDIAN?

What aryan invasion. The one concocted by the british to divide the nation?

Thankyou sir.

Just because there are muslims all over the world, they can justify everything agressions? All riots are repercussion of instigation done by islamic fundamentalists. Gujarath was a repercussion of Godhra Train carnage.

The worst chapter in Indian history has been the barbaric Mughal invasion and all the rest are repercussions of that.

Naxalite infested place sponsored by global christian NGOs do the act of coerced conversions.

The Pseudo-secular parties will jump at the first opportunity to indict RSS and I repeat the Pseudo-secular parties which are Islam-embracing, Christianity-coveting and Hindu-hating will not wait a single moment given an opportunity.

As regards muslims are concerned, they have already asked and taken what they wanted, and who is preventing muslims from being happy in their own nation.

Blood bath, Violence personified and preaches hatred are the teaching of some religions.

To be read as "and you know who does that"

To be read as "People like you who do not know whar RSS"

That is bribe, seduction and you who does that. PLease read my post on what Mahatma Gandhi had to say on this.

Those are not my views, but facts that are available in the archives.

Nothing to loose, nothing to gain.

On 2 August, 1954, 100 Sangh Swayamsevaks stormed the Portuguese enclaves of Dadra and Nagar Haveli. The attack was led by Vinyak Rao Apte, Pune Sanghchalak. They attacked the main police headquarters at Selvassa and forced the 175 soldiers there to surrender unconditionally. The national tri-colour flag was hoisted and the region handed over to the Central Government on the same day. Like-wise the first to unfurl the national flag over the Panaji Secretariat in Goa in 1955 was a Swayamsevak working as a teacher in Goa. He was put in prison in a Lisbon jail for full 17 years till 1972 well after Goa was liberated in 1961. I cannot help surmising that Government of India was not interested in his earlier release only because he was a Swayamsevak!

Mental Block and nothing can be done about. # When Pakistan attacked Bharath in 1965, Lal Bahdur Shastri, the then Prime Minister, personally rang up Shri Guruji who was then touring Maharashtra and requested him to be in New Delhi for the All Leaders Conference the following day. Shri Guruji placed the entire RSS at the disposal of the Government of India to fight the invaders and to safeguard the integrity of our motherland. In Delhi, for the entire period of 22 days of war, police duties like traffic control and patrolling were transferred to Swayamsevaks to free the police for more pressing tasks. Right from the beginning of the war, everyday hundreds of Swayamsevaks daily reported at the General Military Hospital, Delhi to offer blood. The military looked upon the Sangh as a friend in need. Likewise during the BanglaDesh War in 1971, the Swayamsevaks of the Sangh played a vital role in assisting the Government of India in their war efforts against Pakistan.

Hinduism and its followers does not require any support.

Lip service!!

You cannot write Because you do not know.

I also see the frustration in you about the fact that RSS is always in your thought.

The driving force is deffinitely people like who do not what RSS is all about and have a smear campaign as the main agenda.

Let us see.

Certain recommendations seem to be like taking a step backward. 1. Setting up a National Wakf Development Corporation with a revolving corpus fund of Rs 500 crore. - Absolutely absurd 2. Opening high quality Urdu medium schools wherever they are in demand and ensuring high quality textbooks for students in the Urdu language. - How is this going to help in employment in private and public sectors. Does the govt. expect all to be conversant in urdu.? 3. Recognising degrees from madrassas for eligibility in defence, civil and banking examinations. - How is this going to help in employment in private and public sectors. Does the govt. expect all to be conversant in urdu.? 4. Providing legal mechanism to address complaints of discrimination against minorities in matters of employment, housing, schooling and obtaining bank loans. - This going to lead to a lot of blackmailing by unscruplous individuals and groups.

Goto "Create Category" and search for "Unsung RSS Heroes"

There was a discussion in one of the news channels on the affirmative actions that need to be taken post sachar committee report. During the discussion, one of the panelist Mr. Owais had indicated that his recommendation would to open Kendriya Vidyalaya type of schools exclusively for muslims.

Boss even you cannot your eyes open when the Storm comes. If you do so your eyes will be permanently damaged. I have the necessary info from the media. Data from the 2001 Census points at two conclusions which go against the Justice Sachar Committee report that says there is a high discrepancy between Muslim literacy rates and that of the rest, and that the decline in growth rate of population among Muslims has been higher than that among Hindus. These conclusions have been drawn in the book, ‘Population of India in the New Millennium: Census 2001’, by noted demographer and former JNU professor Mahendra K Premi, which was launched on Wednesday. The data shows that among Muslim males, the literacy rate is higher in most states, than among males of other major religions. Even among women, 49.2 per cent Hindu women were literate in Andhra Pradesh, compared to 59.1 per cent Muslims.

All those have been held back for 2008-2009 budget, when elections for lok sabha becomes due.

And handing over to the Italian Mafia.

What is Congress and the UPA today. The Congress combine is 217 from a total of 543, which is less than 50%.

It definitely shows that Congress is not an exclusively favored party.

Yes. Ant that to from the most dangerous land of Mafia.

I am sure Congress is going to instigate the khalistanis to create disturbance as taught by Indira Priyadarshini, as they that is the only way they can get back the power which they have lost.

Pseudo-secularists have one yardstick for Hindus and a different and favourable yardstick for other religionists. Anything which a Hindu says is communal while when a christian says it is the Gospel truth and a muslim says it is islamic faith. Hindus have been fooled, brainwashed to tollerate nonsense and suppressed right from Independence.

This is bound to happen, when power is shared without responsibility and each works in his own direction.

Unity among Hindus is the clarion call to dethrone the Islamic Embracing, Christianity coveting anti-Hindu Pseudo-secular parties lead by Congress.

Foreign Mafia to be more precise.

Why not. Not a bad idea. And definitely they are quite capable of wiping out, just like the bravery they showed during partition saving millions of lives sacrificing their own.

Even so it is only an invitation which is only on voluntary acceptance, unlike the others.

I only sincerely hope this atleast gets posted. Very true. He has been abusing me and the posts have been approved. Any response to counter have all been rejected.

The rulers are cunning.

The Tax payers money is being mis-used to feed Afzal.

Please elaborate.

57 long years of dynastic mis-rule with the clandestine and selfish support of the spineless sycophants.

The Q and the Madam S belong to the same land of Mafia.

One can only take a horse to the pond, the horse will only have to drink the water.

Yes it will be invisible to the blind.

As if we did not have the missionaries earlier. The soul harvesters are infesting the entire country.

The Naxalites funded by foreign missionaries are doing the job of a christian army.

Sachar Committee report is neither mine nor to any general public of India. It belongs to Congress.

Yes we all know that the Sachar Committee report has bee fudged and dictated by the minority appeasement philosophy of the Congress. This Sachar committee data has been disputed by a professor of JNU, who has undertaken a survey.

Hinduism does not believe in conversions, be it forced or seduced or induced.

Yes it will be invisible to the BLIND, Un-intelligible to the mentally blocked.

PLease look at the posts under the topic "1154 Unsung RSS Heroes of Partition days." under the create Board (Custom) category.

As if they are not their. They have been here since britishers took control of India. Mahatma Gandhi was one of those who voiced his dis like of the missionaries intentions.

Mahatma Gandhi had also said about the Missionary activities. Just how strongly Gandhi felt about Christian missionaries in India can be gauged from his recorded comments: "If I had the power and could legislate, I should certainly stop all proselytising." 1. Gandhi's writing: "The effect of Christianity upon India in general...has been disastrous." Shourie, p.6) 2. Gandhi to Krezenski, a visiting professor of Philosophy from Poland, who had told him that Catholicism was the only true religion : "The idea of conversion, I assure you is the deadliest poison that ever sapped the fountain of truth." (Shourie, p.11) 3. Gandhi to a visiting missionary nurse: "The other day a missionary descended on a famine area with money in his pocket, distributed it among the famine-stricken, converted them to his fold, took charge of their temple and demolished it. This is outrageous. This friend goes and gets it demolished at the hands of the very men who only a little while ago believed that God was there." (Shourie, p. 17) 4. Gandhiji: "If I had the power and could legislate, I should certainly stop all proselytising." (Collected Works, Vol 61, page 46-47; Shourie, p. 38). 5. Several missionaries tried to convert Gandhi. When they failed, one of the reverend gentlemen, writes Mahadev Desai, "retired with the imprecation...'Mr. Gandhi, soon there will come a day when you will be judged, not in your righteousness, but in the righteousness of Jesus.' " (Collected Works, Vol 60, p.323; Shourie, p. 240) Gandhiji drew attention to it again and again. The services were incidental. They were the means. The objective was to convert the natives to Christianity. "The Collected Works of Gandhi" contain several accounts as do Mahadev Desai's "Diaries" in which missionaries acknowledged to Gandhiji that the institutions and services are incidental, that the aim is to gather a fuller harvest of converts for the Church. Our father of the nation, Mahatma Gandhi, with all his religious tolerance, was extremely articulate in opposing the conversion activities of Christian missionaries in India and questioned their motives in establishing educational institutions and other services in India. Just how strongly Gandhi felt about Christian missionaries in India can be gauged from his following recorded comment: Gandhiji: "If I had the power and could legislate, I should certainly stop all proselytising." (Collected Works, Vol 61, page 46-47;)

The army of missionaries.

You have leaders of the likes of Owaisi and Syed Sahabudin who are spewing hatred. Please ask all of them to stop and ask all peace loving muslims to give a call against all fatwas issued by clerics which calls for jihad and violence.

What do you mean by alternative source of education for minorities. The system of education is common to all and it up to them to chose that education.

PLease check their social service projects. As on 1 March, 2006, 73,083 'Seva Projects', being undertaken by Rashtriya Sevabharathi, were at different stages of implementation in India: Education is given the topmost priority in all Sevabharathi activities throughout the country. The traditional 'gurukula' system of education was deliberately and ruthlessly destroyed by the British rulers. In its place they introduced the Macaulay's system of education which was mainly intended to produce (black-skinned) English-minded Indians (or Brown Sahebs as they were called) who would faithfully slave for their English masters by hating and scorning everything that was India. Consequently, even after independence, educational institutions are continuously producing only jobseekers. In this system, students are unlearning everything that is Indian and rooted in Indian tradition and consciousness. This type of education contributes to private career planning and not to nation-building in general. All the educational programmes of Sevabharathi are focussed on the following CORE DIMENSIONS: A) Focus on hitherto uncovered areas and sections of society. Vanavasis and the rural areas are given the highest importance. B) Principal focus on primary education in areas where practically no such facilities exist. C) Reinforcing current system of education through specially organised programmes for teaching 'yoga', 'Sanskrit', 'music', 'sanskriti', and 'games & sports' including boy scouts and girl guides. D) Emphasis on Bharatiya 'samskaras'. Students are imparted knowledge about cultural heritage, motherland, values, ethics, ancient and recent true history, saints and heroes, etc. Students are made to learn the importance of self-discipline, self-respect, self-dependence, healthy habits etc. E) Promotion of research and development in education. All the educational programmes are inspired by a grand dream vision marked by the following signposts: i) Every citizen of Bharat becomes highly educated as per his/her potential and capabilities. ii) Every citizen of Bharat worships Bharat as his motherland (Mathru bhoomi), holy land (Punya bhoomi) and land of duty (Karma bhoomi). iii) Every citizen of Bharat becomes self-respecting, self-reliant, incorruptible, patriotic citizen contributing to the all round development of our beloved country so as to make it possible to take her proper rank among the great nations of the world. Even after nearly 60 years of independence adequate and reliable health care is not available in thousands of villages in the country. What is worse is that even first aid is not available. On the one hand, the government has failed miserably on this front; on the other private facilities are beyond the reach of the poor people. Rashtriya Sevabharathi is playing an important role in the crucial area of health care and promotion in all parts of the country. The contours of strategy in the area of health care and promotion are as follows: a) Rashtriya Sevabharathi is not committed to any particular 'Pathy' or System of Medicine. Any system that mitigates, ameliorates, controls or cures an ailment is relevant and acceptable. b) Wherever feasible, it welcomes a judicious combination of various approaches with regard to treatment of various ailments. Wherever necessary the most modern and state-of-art technology, tools, gadgets, medicines, methods of treatment, etc. are used to the fullest extent. Side by side, concerted efforts are also made to get the maximum benefit from the ancient time- tested knowledge in different fields of Indian medicine. c) Preventive health measures are given the highest priority through organised programmes of immunisation, pre-school nutrition, health education and general nutrition education. 'Gram Arogya Rakshak' (GAR) or 'Village Health Worker' services are not available in thousands of villages in the country. Rashtriya Sevabharathi and other sister

I think you are correct.

Resident Indians.

Who says so. Even if it is so, who has asked them to go to Madrasaas.

Do we have a repatriation treaty with Australia?

The Law ministry would be responsible for such ordinances. Do you think we can expect such ordinances from such corrupt politicians. Do you think they will voluntarily go to their gallows?

Yes this great Hindu society was tollerant and allowed every religion to live here. But this act of tollerance has been taken for granted.

Surprising. This govt. is a minority appeasing pseudo_secular group.

Nothing wrong in dreaming. Even if it is gain, gain and gain for Congress, it is going to be a loss, loss and loss for INdia and Indians.

Since invariably the local problems are never addressed, the incumbency factor is significant, as the electorate in a faint hope, expect the change would be for the better.

Dont expect people to show their chests to the bullets. The mughal onslaught will not be allowed to repeat.

Tollerance has limits sir.

Your post says it all. "were treated"!!

All of us know that you are an extremist, sitting in a far off place and operating like a terroist the remote control device called hatred.

If the children are living a luxurious living, then why not. The parents can expect the same degree of luxury. Afterall whatever luxury one is enjoying is because of the education and support the parents had provided. If you call support of parents as charity, then the education, food and shelter provided to you as a child is also charity.

Hope your are not supportive of the Godhra train carnage.

If you donot believe, you are free to go to the archives and review. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. What would you saty to the Godhra train carnage. The vulgar display of ones power was shown by the moguls.

Which means your bran cannot think beyond one line.

Proves me right. Another of a one-liner.

Fact are bitter dear gentleman. Please restrict your comments to just the post and do not comment on my up-bringing.

They will not keepup the pledge and Which is what I have been reiterating. One rotten apple in a basket is sufficient to destroy the entire basket.

This bill is not for protection of parents who want luxurious living, but to those who are not even provided the bear minimum of food, clothing and shelter.

A Peoples' Conference presided over by the Zamorin, Maharaja of Malabar, was held in 1921. The following resolution was passed at this Conference: 'This Conference views with indignation and sorrow the attempts made in various quarters by interested parties to ignore or minimise the crimes committed by the Moplah rebels such as: a) Brutality dishonouring women b) Flaying people alive c) Wholesale slaughter of men, women and children d) Burning alive entire families e) Forcibly converting people in thousands and slaying those who refused to get converted f) Throwing half dead people into wells and leaving the victims for hours to struggle for escape till finally released from their suffering by death g) Burning a great many and looting practically all Hindu and Christian houses in the disturbed areas in which even Moplah women and children took part and robbing women of even the garments on their bodies, in short, reducing the whole non-Muslim population to abject destitution. h) Cruelly insulting the religious sentiments of the Hindus by desecrating and destroying numerous temples in the disturbed areas, killing cows within the temple precincts, putting their entrails on the holy image and hanging the skulls on the walls and roofs.

A good and noble bill no doubt. But the problem is that most parents would not want their children to be punished for their cruel act of not protecting the parents. They would prefer to suffer, than see their loved ones undergo punishment.

I thought Buddha preached non-violence!!!

Iam not hear to teach history. Go to the archives and read it to have a better understanding. Offensive!!

Surviving on Indian Tax payers money.

Will the terrorists come with a badge marked as "TERRORIST"

Who is the instigator. Do you expect people to open their chest for the militants to have target practice and also twidling their thumbs?

As you have stated "In Your constitution" , "Your Fake Encounters". Then what is your constitution and why are you in Delhi.

Do you want the datewise details of targetted masacre of specific community?

Those who demolished temples and buil mosques over it. You want details of how many mosques have been built over temples.

Enough and more tollerance has been showered, and yet there seems to be no reciprocation.

The CJI is K G Balakrishna. I dont need to say anything more.

Have you heard of the Moplah Muslims in Kerala. They were all forced to convert during the Khilfat movement. Those who dis-obeyed were massacred.

Elementary my dear Watson. See my earlier post.

Some people chase specific individuals and post one liners. Nothing more of original posts.

These people are beyond logic and reasoning.

Absolutely. I have been ststing this several times. The stress and tension that they undergo is phenomenal.

Offensive!!!

Very true sir. We are being forced to practice pseudo-secularism.

Why do you think as one of killing. Conversion is also one of the mechanisim.

Understand the message. When it says born Indians, it means everyone. That shows the post of a blocked mind.

The lone survivor of the Sabarmati Express train fire at Godhra in which 59 kar sevaks were killed on 27 February, 2002, Gayatri Panchal, a resident of Ahmedabad, has decried the U.C. Banerjee Commission report. Though she survived, she lost both her parents on that day. She has decried the U C Banerjee Commission report and has said: 'I will stick to the version that the coach was attacked by an armed crowd. The report of the Banerjee Commission is absolutely wrong. I have seen everything with my own eyes and barely escaped myself but lost both my parents. Mobs pelted stones at the coach for long and then threw in burning rags and also poured some inflammable material so that the coach was on fire. I will maintain the same wherever I am called to depose on the matter.' Nor am I. It is only when one side of the picture is projected, I am bound to present the other side of the picture as well. This may appear to many as though I am supporting the riot and rioters.

Brilliant suggestion. Unfortunately, the proposal will have to come from the politicians, and no politician will ever propose him.

Some who are already washed are tough nut to crack.

And they will come out with a strategy, that it was a tragedy.

A week before the blasts on Samjhauta Express, the station master of Old Delhi Railway Station, Arun Shukla, had received a letter threatening bomb attacks on railway stations and bus terminals all over the Capital. The letter clearly mentions that terrorist outfits were waiting to strike at the Old Delhi railway station and other possible targets after February 15. The writer, who claimed to be writing on behalf of Jaish-e-Mohammed, warned against execution of Mohammed Afzal and demanded his release as early as possible.

Enough and more evidence have been provided to Pakistan and US several times. All have been rejected by both Pakistan and specifically by the US as they did not want to antogonise pakistan as they were an ally of the US.

And have more such incidents, bring in militants and ammunition through this green channel.

Just as Pakistan and also Bangladesh have almost reduced the Hindu population to near 0%, I think the same should be done to those minorities in India.

Then how and when did this come into vogue. Is there some motive behind this.

Had the same cauvery tribunal given a favourable result, would they have been termed clean??

Convenient.

Dont Intimidate. That shows ones character.

Dear friend, your good friend Radhikarajen has also hinted the same. When other can pint fingers at RSS or BJP, I think there is nothing wrong in this as well.

False. Please check their service in the remote tribal areas. a) At a meeting of all caste leaders to celebrate Sri Guruji's centenary in Chennimalai in Erode District, people went into ecstasy when they were permitted to participate in Gayatri Homa. b) Members belonging to Ambedkar Makkal Mandram voluntarily came forward to participate in the Reception Committee connected with the Centenary Celebrations at Adyar, Chennai. All of them worked with tremendous enthusiasm round the clock to spread the message of Hindu solidarity. c) Sri Varadarajan, a Scheduled Tribe (Arunthathiyar) leader was moved to tears at Arakkonam when he was given the honour of hoisting the Saffron Flag of the RSS at the conference in connection with the Centenary Celebrations of Sri Guruji. Likewise, Velumani, a Harijan leader, spoke eloquently about the role played by the RSS in bringing all the castes together on the same public platform. He too was given the honour of hoisting the Saffron Flag in the Periyapalayam conference held in Tiruvallur District. d) Sri Srinivasan, a Harijan Leader from Atthur in Salem District declared: 'Spirituality alone can unite all the sections of society. RSS is a shining symbol of spirituality, selfless service and sacrifice. I for my part pledge myself to work round the clock for the RSS in all its society-building activities.' e) Sri Madhiarasan, a Leader of the Indian Republican Party, participating in the Caste Leaders' Conference organised in Kancheepuram as part of the centenary celebrations, declared: 'In order to overcome the onslaughts on Hindu society, all the Hindus should come together shedding their caste differences. The only organisation that can help us achieve this great national goal is the RSS.' f) In the Conference held at Chromepet, Chennai in which I participated, 50 Muslim women participated to show their solidarity with the Hindus in that area. g) Former Adi Dravidar Welfare Minister Rajangam enthusiastically participated in the Sri Guruji Centenary Celebrations held at Panruti and Cuddalore. h) The youths belonging to the PMK party of Endiyur village near Pondicherry voluntarily came forward to work for the Hindu Unity Conference in their village and proclaimed: 'Our village is an RSS village.'

There are many on this board.

It is just that the Govt. and politicians at that time wanted such disappearances to showcase that militancy is being controlled, and now for some strange reasons, may be to appease some groups, such revelations are being thrown up. Unfortunately the army is being made the scape goat.

What about Lalu, paswan etc? Send born Indians out of the country and bring in people from the land of Mafia.

Well said.

May be reviving HMV.

Now the TN governor probably has also been put under leash, by involving his son in what appears to be a foisted case.

What do we do with the central Govt. It is being governed by criminals, supported by Mafia and dons.

It is under Congress rule. So dont ever expect that to happen.

Iam not sure on what basis this statement has been made. Infact it is Amitabh Bachhan who is promoting UP and indirectly promoting Mulayam Singh.

It is attempting to govern itself first which is going in multi-directions.

In this case the probability of possibility is very high.

Sir, Please see his post. In fact he has even called you a person who does not have anything between the ears.

Bhagat Singh, Azad and others targets, were only britishers who were blood suckers and slave masters in our land and not innocent civilians.

You have directly accepted that you have neither.

To add further to the above post, "If you can. But I dont think you can".

The trick is simple. General public donot move about with arms, but terrorists do in the garb of normal common man. An attempt to capture, if results in a retaliation with arms is a definite indicator of a terrorist. The only problem is sometimes a mistake is committed, which is termed as fake encounter. I hope I have clarified.

Well Congress involvement, that could be a definite possibility.

Your are right. But only correction is that the news channels are not doing it on their own, but on instructions from someone powerful with a hidden agenda.

How I wish they do that.

Absolutely. I wonder why Afzal is not given a bail?

some times the fairer sex are more scheming.

Probably that is the reason why he and people like Afzal still continues to breathe.

Inflammables were not taken by people inside the train, but was thrown from outside in the referred case.

Media is influenced, controlled and manipulated by people who hold power.

Ask the terrorists to come with a banner saying that they are terrorist and come in an uniform which is pre-defined by them and avoid coming in the guise of the innocent general public.

Do you know some amount of history. RSS was asked to merge with Congress by Sardar Patel. When RSS refused, it is then that Congress started its smear campaign.

Joint Investigations?? An open VISA for ISI agents from Pakistan.

If you have anything between your legs, use it to replicate you kind.

Take over, chief of INTERPOL.

Ignorance personified. "No more to get full picture" - I guess only when there is a picture can one get it.

Oh Yes, Angry because of your ignorance.

Do you know some amount of history. RSS was asked to merge with Congress by Sardar Patel. When RSS refused, it is then that Congress started its smear campaign.

Oh is that so. We have the the voice of Interpol here I guess.

Then have no Samjautha.

Ask the terrorists to come with a banner saying that they are terrorist and come in a an uniform which is pre-defined by them and avoid coming in the guise of the innocent general public.

There are no stops once it leave Delhi until it enters Pakistan territory.

How ignorant you are. The UC banerjee committee to cover and protect the Congress has stated that it was an electrical short circuit.

The same way as was done during the Godhra train carnage.

It has been proved that the people involved were Congress men and they are serving sentences in jail, when actually they should have been hanged.

Not the sleeve of a shirt.

When was the Samjautha express started??/

Not only terrorists, but also the inventory of arms much higher than what even our armed forces may have.

Arent the terrorists killing innocent civilians??

Ask the terrorists to come with a banner saying that they are terrorist and come in a an uniform which is pre-defined by them and avoid coming in the guise of the innocent general public.

I think people are talking of the love to hate by Pakistan.

The security ought to be of the order of overseas air-travel.

The moral ground is the grave yard where they are supposed to go.

But the failures seem to be happenning not now and then, but almost every now and then. This is also added by the sheer negligence on the part of railways to increase security especially to such a journey across 2 countries, one of which is infiltrating terroists. PLease check the Indian express on line edition of 20th Feb, the security situation that is absolutely required which is not there.

Sheikh Abdullah and Gulam Nabi Azad are screaming that Kashmir would burn, if Afzal is hanged. Leaders governing the state who are impotent and cannot control the aftermath of Hanging.

All needs to be practiced in ones home first.

But invariably the politicians add fuel to fire to make the situation volatile and then try to diffuse so that they get a better mileage.

Very true. But the politicians want to just provide lip service to fool the gullible illiterate who form the majority and do not want them to become genuinely litterate, as the the mass would not be easily be fooled.

We need not imagine. Those laws are there.

Most times the politicians also give such instructions, to showcase to the public that the security monitoring system is at its best. What do we do with them?

Lalu has admitted that there has been a grave security lapse. The railways are ill-equipped to have taken up this train journey. There are no scanners to check the baggage contents. This is a dangerous situation and the return journey from Pakistan could see bombs easily smuggled in.

A man who knows not what is happenning, just like the parentage.

It is not that there are no skeletons in Congress Controlled state cupboards. It is just that Congress doesnt want those to be un-earthed or to put it the other way Congress wants the skeletons to be un-earthed only in those states where it is not in power to re-gain power.

Back after a long time, just as you have come out.

No respect, but the alms from the US.

Very true. Unfortunately it has happened on Indian soil and there are vultures who at a wink of an eye would ascribe this to some Hindu orgn.

Let us all hope that this court remains SUPREME.

There is a subtle difference between saying one resembles and concludes as same in which case surmises and assumptions comes into play. It is here that you have made an assumption that I have assumed.

The SC has stayed the death sentence of santosh Singh delivered by the high court and has issued notice to CBI. Where is the case heading?

Any thing wrong with this post. "Shouldnt we say un-natural death"

There is political vision, but the only difference is that it is self-centered.

Samjhauta can commence only when there is a trust and a complete call for truce. I dont think the situation is anywhere near that.

You have not understood the cynicism in my post. I was only pointing at the slow process of our judicial system.

The problem of education is not restricted to any specific community, but in general to the majority of population living in rural areas. This is because of the lack of primary and secondary education infrastructure in the rural areas. This in turn is the cause for caste based discrimination still persisting in those areas.

But the ratio is what one need to be worried about.

That person was also from Dehradun.

Your posts resemble a good old friend of mine in this MB, who suddenly seem to have gone missing.

Wether you buy it or not is your choice. A good guide or a bad guide again is your opinion. To be convinced is left to an individual.

Agent for conversion??

North, East, West, South or central, most politicians are the type of people you have mentioned and there need be no surpsrise with A GOSH.

I as a citizen, will have to count on the failings of the politicans and accordingly caste my vote, as well as guide others of the failings. Is being crtical against the rule or law of the land?

Death sentence given. But then High Court, supreme Court and then may be clemency petition are some milestones to be crossed.

Thanks for your thought.

If that be so, then we cannot count the failings of the politicians and do justice as citizens of India.

One needs to show individuality in ones views and counter with valid points. Name dragging is not a gentleman's attitude.

Well some people always do. To pardon those is my choice.

I have not cast any aspersions on Mahatma Gandhi. This post has been addressed to a member whose id is "Let_truth_prevail" who has disputed the money paid for the transfer of the entire 5 crore muslim population from India to pakistan of which only 1.8 crore moved over. Please understand the discussion thread before posting.

You have the right to have your opinion and I cannot comment on it.

You are right. The downtown areas of most cities in the US are filled with sophisticated beggars.

Even Gandhiji was sad man in his last days when the reality check showed that mere 1.8 crores of population of muslims migrated leaving the net block of 3.2 crores in India. !While calculating the division of national assets,the estimates were made for 5 crores of population.National reserves were given in cash reserve of 35 crores out of 65 crores in gold reserve leaving only 30 crores for India,in gold reserve,for estimated population of 30 crores,in actual 33 crores.India had to start with borrowing economy, Pakistan spoiled its reserve in military expenses and expansions, went in to ruins in just 10 years,from positive to negative economy. These are facts which you may verify in any archive. Ref: Post from Radhikarajen.

I dont know on what basis you seem to come to the conclusion that I jump the topic. Please check your post and you have referred to mis-adventures and it is only to that I have responded. I am all for peacefull co-eistence. But the reciprocation doesnt seem to be comming forth.

I dont go by hypothesis. I have gone purely based on a census report by a JNU professor.

One more instance of a muslim speaking. Yeah, why not, when Imam bukari,the brahmin in islam,says Pakistan Zindabad, you will join him at the cost of all in the nation ?

The recent case of an Indian petrol pump boy who had inadvertently blinded one of the eye of a saudi national, and as per the Sharia law, the Indian was supposed to have been given a sentence to remove the same side eye of his. It is a fact that a huge amount was transferred to Pakistan for the population exchange. I dont fear and I have no doubts. Can you also respond to the post on Maulana Abul Kakam azad.

You are absolutely correct. Congress also wanted RSS to merge with It, and when this request was rejected by the then RSS chief, the hate campaign against RSS was started by Congress.

This is precisely what I have said which you have yourself agreed. I have stated several times and I repeat, I donot expect everyone to agree to whatever I say.

It will be a surprise if she does not attend Iftar parties. And such events is impossible, whereas she not attending an RSS event will be no surprise.

I dont dispute that reminders are not required when past mistakes are not repeated. It is definitely required to be reminded when the mistake is repeated. The parent will warn the child of the burns if the child attempts to repeat the same act of reaching for the fire.

There are also news reports that the Shias have submitted a proposal for subsidy to travel to Iran.

I dont think that can be generalised.

A child which has not experienced the effect of the fire, will reach for it the first time and the effect of it will be permanent and it will never reach for the fire ever after and will keep a distance.

With all the appeasement policies adopted by the COngress and its pseudo-secular parties, it is no wonder that many Indians muslims have acknowledged that India is one of the better place for muslims and yet keep cribbing, to gain more from these pseudo-secular parties.

Precisely, but if the past experience and its effect are forgotten and the same is being repeated, one needs a reminder, otherwise what could be the reason for repeating the same mistake. If one needs to wake up early to catch a flight, one may resort to an alarm alert, especially if there has been a previous instance of missed flight. If this is not done and again leads to missed flight one ought to be reminded of the past experience.

Great Info.

Except Christianity, the rest are all of Indian origin only. Anyway can you clearly demarcate the region?

If the source of representation is the Sachar committee report then the validity of the reposrt is already questionalble.

Christianity is not of Indian origin.

Well she only agravate the vatican aura.

This started with the barbaric Mogul invasion and that is the root cause to all the miseries that we have today.

Can you tell me who has been responsible for the several mis-adventires that have been taking place for several decades.

Do you know why Moulana Abul Kalam Azad did not want partition. Maulana in his book "India Wins Freedom" has discussed the reason for his opposition. He was of the opinion that the creation of a separate Muslim state would divide the Muslim population and India would have fewer number of Muslims, thus dealing a blow to the process of Islamization of India, hence the opposition. I ask the same from every muslim living in India. We have had protests to Lebanon attack, we have protests to Iraq attack, we have protest to Afghanistan attacks, have we had any show of condemnation in the hardest possible manner by the Muslims after the Mumbai blasts (twice), after the attack on Sankat Vimochan temple blasts. None at all sir.

An eye for an Eye is the Sharia law of Islam. The Assassination of Gandhi was from an individual who lost his state of balance and the reasons were also not frivolous. Hindustan agreed to pay a huge amount for the re-settlement of the entire muslim poupulation from Hindustan territory to that of Pakistan which was agreed to by Gandhi with Jinnah. But ultimately only a fraction shifted.

As well.

One should also know the legacy that one is carrying as a burden. The mistake that was committed then is the cause to all the problems that we have today and despite that, today the same mistakes are being carried out and it is the responsibility to highlight the history and its repercussions as a reminder.

These conclusions have been drawn in the book, ‘Population of India in the New Millennium: Census 2001’, by noted demographer and former JNU professor Mahendra K Premi, which was launched a few months back. The data shows that among Muslim males, the literacy rate is higher in most states, than among males of other major religions. Even among women, 49.2 per cent Hindu women were literate in Andhra Pradesh, compared to 59.1 per cent Muslims.

The kind of stress that they undergo, is reflected by the several suicides committed by them almost on a daily basis. Considering the stress, we see such incidents almost everywhere in India in trains they travel on either their way back after duty or re-joining duty.

Some are hard to crack.

Absolutely spot on sir. M K Gandhi had a special affiliation towards Muslims and Muslim league, more out of appeasing the militant ones.

If Religion is a nation, then Hinduism is the majority religion and so has to be a Hindu Nation only.

But ultimately the money is going to be used for anti-national activity. Isnt this short sightedness without any futuristic thinking?

Boss, what was the reason for creating Pakistan?

Sorry sir. It has been the other way round. Do you know about the Mooplah masacre in Kerala? Do you Know Moulana Mohammed Ali called Mahatma Gandhi in 1924 in Aligarh and Ajmer: 'However pure Mr. Gandhiji's character may be, he must appear to me from the point of view of religion inferior to any Mussalman, even though he be without character' Do you know that Mr.Mohammed Ali declared that under no circumstances is it permissible for any Mohammden whatever be his country to stand against any Mohammadan".

Dont hide in Delhi and talk of freedom. Any way what is it that Kashmir is going to get as an Independent nation. It will be gobbled by other larger nations. Ultimately be a slave to some other nation.

From the Vatican???

Well every one remembers the daily massacre of members of a community singled out. August, 1993: 17 Hindus killed in Sarthal in Bhaderwah area of Doda when Hindus were segregated from bus. 2. January 5, 1996: 16 Hindus killed in Barshala in Kishtwar, Doda 3. January 12, 1996: Seven Hindus killed in Bhaderwah, Doda 4. 6 May, 1996: 17 Hindus killed in Sumbar Ramban tehsil of Doda 5. June 7-8, 1996: Nine Hindus killed in Kamladi village of Doda 6. April 7, 1997: Seven Kashmiri Pandits killed in Sangrampur, Kashmir Valley. 7. September 24, 1997: Seven Hindus killed in Sawari village of Rajouri. 8. January 26, 1998: 23 Kashmiri pandits killed in Wandhama in Valley. 9. April 17, 1998: 29 Hindus killed in Prankot and Dhakikot villages of Udhampur 10. May 5, 1998: Five Hindus killed in Surankot Poonch 11. May 6, 1998: 11 Hindu Village Defence Committee members killed. 12. June 19, 1998: 29 Hindu baratis including three grooms were killed in Chapnarai, Doda. 13. July 27, 1998: 20 Hindus killed in Kishtwar, Doda 14. February 13, 1999: Five Hindus killed in Udhampur 15. February 19, 1999: 19 Hindus killed in Rajouri, 4 in Udhampur 16. June 29, 1999: 12 Hindu labourers from Bihar killed in Santhu village of Annatnag 17. July 1, 1999: Nine Hindus killed in Mendhar Poonch. 18. July 15, 1999: 15 Hindus of Thathri village of Doda killed 19. Februrary 28, 2000: Five Hindus in Mendhar killed 20. Feb 29, 2000: Five Sikh drivers killed in Qazikund, Kashmir Valley. 21. March 20, 2000: 36 Sikhs killed in Chattisinghpora Kashmir. 22. August 1, 2000: 28 Aamarnath pilgrims killed. 23. August 2, 2000: 12 Hindus killed in Banihal area of Doda. 24. August 2, 2000: 8 Hindu VDC members killed in Marwah, Doda 25. November 24, 2000: Five Hindus killed in Kishtwar, Doda 26. February 3, 2001: 8 Sikhs killed in Majhoor Nagar, Srinagar 27. May 10, 2001: 8 Hindus killed in Paddar Kishtwar, Doda 28. July 21, 2001: 13 Hindus killed in Amarnath attack 29. July 21, 2001: 20 Hindus killed in Kishtwar, Doda 30. August 4, 2001: 15 Hindu killed in Kishtwar area, Doda 31. January 1, 2002: Six Hindus in Magnar village of Poonch. 32. February 17, 2002: Eight Hindus killed in Rajouri 33. March 23, 2003: 24 Kashmiri pandits killed in Shopian, Pulwama. 34. May 1, 2006: 34 innocent Hindus including women and children killed in Doda in Jammu. The above list is only from 1993. The list could be huge if we start from the beginning. Why were the Kashmiri Pundits thrown out of their land.

Be logical and realistic. Do the militants, come with a badge saying they are militants. Do they have a uniform which clearly identifies them. They come in the clothes of the common general public.

Not only Individuals without any responsibility, but also parties without any responsibility.

The money was paid by the central Govt. And obviously to those who are close to those political parties from the center.

Not King like but a dictator.

The peaceful conduct of the ongoing National Games has been brokered by the Govt. obviously through a huge monetary benefit to the ULFA.

When those countries send money to missionaries to brainwash and forcibly convert, then there is nothing wrong to protect Hindus and Hinduism. So you talk of religion as a nation, in which case Hindustan should be for Hindus.

The statements from CBI director have been released to protect Moninder from public outrage for obvious reasons, as the statement from CBI seem to be emphasising the role of surinder alone.

This is true of any party in India. How come the COngress party was exonerated from the oil-for-food scam?

There have been open statements from several leading muslims, that the dictat of the religion comes before even the national diktat.

Shall I list the activities and statements of muslim leaders against great people like Mahatma Gandhi?

I have my own doubts if she will attend. She will fake excuses, just as she did for the Vandemataram ceremony in Congress.

Pseudo-secularism and can even be called back-stabbing.

What are you doing in Delhi. I think you should also be in J&K in the freedom struggle.

Very true. It appears that some muslims in INdia will have to prove their loyalty to India.

May I ask what Pakistan is doing in Indian territory. Arent they sponsoring militants from across their borders and feeding them in India? Should India sit quiet and watch those Paki trained terroists create havoc in India.

Honest to be dis-honest and apparently transparent.

The activities of Nehru are also well known.

Convenient. Anyway, administration of the country should noy be used as a test bed for all the UPA mis-adventures.

Including the so called common mans parties and politicians?

Great, we see the kind of clarity in thought and action amongst the UPA ministers including the PM and the kind of interference from the Supreme Commander without responsibility.

Great Thought. Unfortunately the people who continue to be Hindus realise this, but those who were hindus but now are not have been brainwashed to destroy all their past.

Thanks for acknowledging. Just want to make sure that you are made aware of this fact.

People like Lalu do it openly and is no secret.

Ask them to go to the rich courts.

D thing is that D prez is 2 decide d fate of Afzal.

Dear Mr. rattanmittal, The above post is not by me but by an impersonator. There are few imposters of several members who are deliberately creating trouble by posting unwanted and unwarranted harsh messages. Please verify the Id's closely. Thanks

Which is what my post also says. Religion is never wrong it is in the hand sof the person. Propgate no, practice yes. Inducement and seducing or forced conversions are wrong.

When one is going to claim the superpower status, all those parameters will have to satisfied.

During the NDA may be the entire Indian community was in danger at the hands of the terroists, but under the stewardship of Congress and the pseudo-secular parties the Hindus are in danger at the hands of these internal anti-hindu terroists.

Very true. Unlike the Congress and its spineless followers, who depend on the Dynasty and its fake Tag of Gandhi.

The entire country will be peaceful if the Congress and its parasite pseudo-secular parties get out of the Indian political scene.

And the media have given prominence to this movie and the director.

Mr. Parthajedi and Mr. arjunindwar could you please respond after reading my posts below.

No one can answer better than the people of Gujarath.

The left sway from left to right.

The utility of any tool depends on the person who has it and how it is used by him. A rope can be used for skipping as an exercise. It can also be used as a noose to hang some one. Does that mean that the rope is evil and that it should be thrown. Gentleman, please try to think and understand that the utility of any tool depends on who and how it is being used.

I think every individual has a brain to think and judge what is right and wrong. To be fooled or not is an individuals choice. As far as reaching out to God, there are no dalals and brokerage commissions that need to be paid. It is obviously a direct one on one contact.

Well said.

Tax payers money pumped in constantly by the minority appeasement pseudo-secular parties lead by Congress.

Utter Confusion between Religion and God. Iam talking with respect to Hinduism. It is a way of living and a set of guidelines to be practised in order to lead a meaningful life. Ofcourse to lead a meaningful life or otherwise is left to the individuals decide. One sees God within onself and around if one leads a meanigful life.

It is long overdue and it is good atleast now they have realised the importance of technology and foreign investments.

Opportunities to others as well.

Why in Tamilnadu, I think throughout India, thanks to the Islamic Embracing, Christianity coveting anti-Hindu Pseudo-secular parties lead by Congress.

I dont think we will live to see the day. May be one of the generations probably may.

This is what RSS is attempting to do, and the Pseudo-secular parties have branded it a militant and anti-social organization.

If you talk of the Chiristian and muslim minority organization, they were mentally never in India. The christians will fall back on the western missionaries for commands, while the muslims I dont need to mention.

Most of the hard heads do not and may not understand.

I have just picked up a portion from your very own post.

True. It appears that the FM's office has not responded to a letter from the PMO on this issue.

A pen is for Writing. Good articles can be written using it while at the same time hateful, dis-honest and dangerous messages can also be written. Does this mean that the pen is bad. Good or bad is in the hands of the person using it.

The UC Banerjee commission report of electical short circuit has been out right rejected one of the survivors of the train carnage. The U C Banarjee commission and it report are a farce dictated by Congress.

Who says Secular. It is one of the worst Pseudo-secular country in the world.

"Without any concrete evidence", your post itself says it all.

Well when certain states like AP, TN can ban Da Vinco Code movie on law and order grounds, despite the censor board clearing it, Gujarath has every reason to do so.

Sonia cannot handle the literate urban as only a literate like Manmohan can handle. In the rural people can and are being fooled by the Gandhi tag.

Dont tell me he does not know where the funds are being misappropriated.

And the politicians know the purchase value also.

A frustrated post.

The CBI will uncover those the central Govt wants and cover those which they dont want.

Police have been asked to be careless by some corrupt and powerful politicians.

Well if they claim to be the gaurdian of democracy and clean governance, they should have curbed it. I can give several instances of corruption immediately after independence by the congress leaders including Nehru.

Stop impersonating and behave like a gentleman with some individuality if you have any.

You are right. The Godhra Massacre has been dumped to oblivion by the media and some anti-national activists not only to the general public in India but to the entire world.

Thankyou sir.

NOt acting as he should when he knows that funds are misappropriated despite being a clean hand and also not a direct beneficiary, also tantamount to incompetence and party to the misdeed.

The Pseudo-secular Congress has been there for almost 5 decades and they have only let it grow at its own pace. Nothing spectacular or visionary effect have been imbibed in the system. In fact the one thing which they have very successfully implemented and trained others is in corruption.

Posts need to be gentleman like especially when the member to whom a response is being posted has not made any offensive comment.

Shouldn't the "Masters" be appropriately changed to suit the concerned Gender.

But PVNR had different plans and purpose when he introduced, which the MPs very well knew and have been meticulously following the un-written purpose.

I have also seen the social culture, the live-in relationship, flt-by night marriages, multiple relationships, old parents to fend for themselves etc in the US.

I have also seen sophisticated begging in several Downtown areas in the US.

What we see on TV is what the media has been asked to show. What we hear on TV is what they have been asked to broadcast.

I guess it is N - Nuclear, B - Biological and C- Chemical.

To be more precise, the politicians sponsor and ensure the media adds fuel to the fire.

The Human rights Activists will not look at all those trivial issues. They will only mobilize public opinion for a terroist.

Shabbash..

My be because Italy may have to listen to India?

That was a wrong choice. More over I had mentioned that the IAS bureaucrats should be the ones who will have to announce and implement the rehab packages, which I suppose is also their duty.

But unfortunately they dont. The immediate hunger needs to be satisfied, which is what they will first look at before even attempting to think beyond.

Any political party leader visit will have appreciation from pro groups and violent reactions from the anti-groups. This will lead to inflamed situations. Iam sure remedial and rehabilitation measures can be announced even without coming to the spot. Moreover it is the job of the bureaucrats to assess damage and implement the announced compensation packages.

Iam not referring to the educated and reasonably equiped masses. Iam talking of the poverty stricken, illiterate masses who form the majority. To them the immediate present is more important.

You are right.

Parties and politicians invest huge funds in elections, and can one expect charity in such leaders and parties.

Can we expect anything different. After all the Media is influenced by the powers.

You have not understood the intentions. The human Rights activists in general do not look at the kind of crime committed, and only look at the human rights angle.

Let us all cherish the virtual association which we have with Radhikarajen, as a privilege by associating through this MB.

Hindus and Hinduism may easily be forced, but most other religions will oppose any control tooth and nail.

I suppose the ministry of Human resource is one and the ministry of sports is another. The ministries are all there. But the politics overrides all norms.

Tense situations and clashes are created by parties whose popularity is down in that region, picking on the communal thread and then come back to diffuse by providing monetary support (Indirect Bribe) to gain the goodwill of the electorate.

Bill gates himself has admitted that the Indians have largely contributed to the growth of Microsoft. Secondly why do you think, the multinationals are pouring into India?

To think, people should have their basic necessities satisfied, which the majority still do not have and deliberately so.

That shows your arrogance and accepting the facts on the subsidised education. I have seen the world gentleman. I have traveled the length and breadth of US several times. Please do not come to the conclusion that such statements can only come from those who have not had opportunities.

26 years despite the filth and dirt you have been provided the best of education and now that education has given you wings to fly and you talk of standards of living. The education standard that has been provided is good enough reason to be proud of India.

A TV channel raised an opinion poll "Are Mumbaikars the losers?" after the Shiv Sena - BJP aliance won the BMC elections. Would the very same channel have raised an opinion poll after the UPA govt. election in 2004 "Are Hindustanis losers?"

Is there anything wrong with this post. What ever be the percentages, there is definitely a brain drain of those who have had subsidised professional education and left the country in search of greener pastures. Definitely the country could have better utilised the wasted funds on those unprofessional professionals who have benefitted from the govt. subsidy.

Thanks to Congress, who ruled for most part of the Independent era.

But out politicians will not allow most gullible to think.

The Existing lot of corrupt, self-centered Politicians to Go. A good mix of Administrative Service personnel and Management experts, and Technocrats will have to combine together to run this country.

May be you can take all the garbage that is being thrown on our nation, but I cannot tolerate such nonsense.

On 17 December, 2006 at Tenkasi town in Tirunelveli district, a young Hindu Munnani leader Kumar Pandian and his friends Sekar were walking through a Muslim street in Tenkasi. They were way laid by two Muslims. These two Muslims who were later to turn themselves into marauders put this question to Kumar Pandian: 'How the hell can you start an Ambulance Service in Tenkasi? Do you know what will be the consequences for you and your family?' Kumar Pandian politely replied: 'Please mind your business. For the sake of the poor and helpless people and for their welfare, we are determined to start an Ambulance Service in Tenkasi.' Even as he was completing this reply, some Muslim marauders and terrorists who were in hiding came out into the open, surrounded Kumar Pandian and started attacking him with sword (Aruval) and knife and other lethal weapons and killed him in a brutal and barbarous manner. After killing him, they escaped in an auto rikshaw. Fortunately, Sekar survived the attack with minor injuries.

Obviously, Hindustan.

Yeh man. One has to be in the midst of the struggle and then talk. It is very easy to sit in comfort as a third class citizen in an adopted country and talk of filth and struggle in the native country.

The spotlight will be there where the Congress wants.

It is no tool for social justice. It is only a tool for votebank politics, developed, nurtured and perfected by the Spineless, pseudo-secular congress.

Who are the Human rights activists. They are a bunch of irresponsible people who keep protecting terrorists in the name of human rights. Where are these human rights activists when the crime of the order of mass destruction and massacre is committed?

Thank you sir. The day this happens, India will be definitely will be a better place to live in.

Any way the politicians are ruling only with a gun either physically or metaphorically.

Pre-election bribe disbursement.

Clean up the gutters of our politics and political system.

Cohesiveness of a majority community would definitely be much better.

This UPA Govt. will not attempt. They will again declare ceasefire and allow them to re-group to cause much greater havoc.

Italian Mafia upbringing is there for all to be seen.

Can anyone exceed Congress in such Melodramas.

What a complicated way of stating ones views!!

Not with the existing political leaders and structure.

Glass house even if it is a palace will crumble any time, but a hut has diffenitrly a better cjance to survive. To live a peacefull life together and marching forward should be the motivation factor for all.

Defeatist attitude will not take anyone forward.

As it is there is a lot of brain drain happenning out of India.

The police themselves in most times try to pull the hair or forcibly remove the face cover etc when the culprits try to cover their face while being taken to the courts, to avoid medi glare.

The CBI is invited because the centre wants the investigation to go its way and not the way the investigation should go. CBI will definitely bend to the needs of the centre.

I think it will be the other way around. The competent will have to look for opportunities in other planets.

Your last line says the facts about competence.

If the police go about digging the whole country, they will find lot more. They will find temples also. Now the focus is on UP for obvious reasons.

Thank you sir.

Forward March!!!

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Kuch tho Log Kahange, Logonkh Ka Kam hai Kahana, Chodo in Bekar ki Bathon kho....

The publicity that this has generated, some other cheap channel would take up telecasting rights of BB. To some in business Ethics is beyond them.

Even before attempting, if one assumes that all will be consumed is one of defeatist mentality. One has to work towards generating the necessary resource in advance and not wait till the grapes are ripe. When the fruits are provided in a platter, the value will never be appreciated.

The SC court has rejected the witness protection PIL. It has indicated that a blanket witness protection cannot be provided, considering the number of casses. It has instead suggested that the law ministry will have to do some categorization and come up with guidelines and policies for providing witness protection.

Start a movement of all those property owners who are suffering at the hand of such tenants. Register a body "Association of Property Owners Sufferrings from Tenants" in short APOST. Enroll members, with clearcut grievances with proof. Publicise this association to enroll members across India and then launch protests to bring it to the knowledge of the public and the concerned Ministries.

SS herself has not supported those who have supported her, by retracting her statement. Hasnt she made a fool of herself and the millions who supported her.

You are right sir. The spineless Congress men do not have any self-respect and have accepted a person from the mafia land as their leader, who was hessitant to take Indian citizenship for almost 10 years and was on dual citizenship.

Possible.

Please study the history of Khilafat movement in kerala and the the masacre of Hindus by the Moplahs.

Mosques and madrasas are used for unholy and venomous discources and brainwashing sessions to release militant and terroists activities.

Not because of any stigma. After all to the media, who propogate, there is no differentiation. They are all guided by the power of money and reflect only what those who dictate with their money power.

In the entire discussion, I have not abused at all.

I think the use of disposable cups should be brought in as a law.

May be the Top politicians have entered into a deal with Surinder to protect Moninder.

Meaning, one of the many imposters, Saddam had of himself to protect the original Saddam?

Please understand the history of the Mosques in India, before commenting. Most of the mosques in India have been built over temples.

Can you say How? Is it by may of murderous attacks like the Masacre and forced conversion during the Khilafat movement in Kerala?

Keep repeating the same for the next 2500 years, when incidents such as this are given a tag and publicied and projecting as though no other section is suffering such crimes.

Oh very well see your face, based on your words and reactions.

You do not understand the philosophy of Hinduism. There is nothing like different gods. As per Hinduism God is formless and the various forms are only objects to concentrate and each chooses his own form. The concience is god. You may not practise it but please try to understand Hinduism before you talk ill of it. Hinduism does not preach any of what you think, but it is those self centered practioners who are responsible. First one has to search for God within oneself, that space is more than enough.

For 6 decades of Independence, Congress being in power for almost 5 decades, are known Hindu Haters. And the current Un-parliamentary Perverted alaince at the center is also Hindu Haters and Minority appeasement pseudo-seculars.

Mind your language. Try to be humane yourself first before complaining about others.

If that happens, Congress will be solely held responsible and will have to be thrown out of Indian politics.

1. A man who lives by the sword dies by the sword. 2. What you sow so you Reap.

He now says that Moninder is not even aware.

Then the polticians will also get entangled and may have to be tried in courts as abetors to crime.

I dont think she has any celebrity status currently. She is only trying to improve her celebrity and financial status.

Thank you for re-affirming my views. I hope people understand this.

You are right. She bitched all her supporters for a few million RS more. As expected, she has sold her soul. (We know what selling onself means).

If you read my post, I have said that they get a portion of the booty, which is also a corrupt practise. Iam only repeatedly highlighting the source of all the corruption is Indian Politics and politicians.

I am neither with POLICE, nor with the Political clan nor with any Beaucratic agency. Iam a committed Indian national for the growth and development of the Nation.

Foolish arguement. Taking bribe and stealing is in every criminal who see no caste or religion. "Our god and your God" shows your thought process and how ignorant it is.

Dr Ambedkar would be ashamed that you are spelling out his name, because you words and actions definitely are not one to be associated with.

Need not have a job to get inside information. It is a open secret.

You may be right, but the issue here is that the channel has a made a fool of all those who have aired their descent, which they have used as a publicity there by increasing their viewership.

Your absolutely right "DOT ON"

Protectors of Hindus against soul harvestors(you know who they are) and jihadis.

Crime and perversion sees no caste creed or even gender. The mind goes blank or turbulent when such acts are commited and there is no scope for any logical reasoning. Crime has been happenning all across the country across all caste, creed and gender for centuries. NOw special highlight is made of specific instances with tags attached by certain divisive forces.

Laddu chahiyae toh, lath be kahni padthi hai.

Absolutely. In all states, the police are bribe collection agencies for the politicians in power and having said that, the law and order can be as good as bad as it can be.

Excerpts from todays NDTV online edition. "In a complete turnaround, Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty says that she did not feel any racial discrimination from her housemates on the sets of reality TV show Big Brother."

PLease tell me which religion you prefer. And whatever religion you prefer, will never want you to be part of it, for your choice of words and actions.

Ignore the views. A replica of a member called "Kureela"

In all other states, Sitaram would insist the exact opposite.

Politicians in India earns very well from the offenders of law, the police only get a portion of the booty. The major share goes to the politicians. The police are only collection agencies for the politicians. And by your logic, the politicians should first be treated as accomplice to the crimes and should be punished suitably.

Why the English Media alone, it is being and has been sponsored by the Pseudo-secular, spineless, and white skin preferred by Congress men.

To have any top cops Ph. No.is no indication of involvement. Only if a call has been made to those numbers will there be some proof.

First of all Indians should avoid watching the show, to show their dissent.

Is this Kureela in a different avatar.

Shilpa today has made a U-Turn stating that there was no racism. Has she been paid more by the channel for the publicity she has generated by increasing the viewership by a million overnight. If so she deserves to be needled even worse than what she has been facing now. She deserves no sympathy.

Laddu chahiyae toh, lath be kahni padthi hai.

She has bitched every one and has made fools out of those who went in support of her.

The issue is not of insulting Shilpa Shetty alone, but a larger one. I hope people realise that the nation has been insulted and which is to be condemned in no uncertain terms and as strongly as possible.

Stupid, irrelevant and unwarranted.

This racism issue has only increase the viewership of the Programme. If at all one wants to show their dissent towards this programme, people should avoid watching this programme and may be start a campaign to stop viewing this programme or may be agitate to stop airing the programme.

May there are newer scripts which could generate more revenue?

Nationalism should come from within and cannot be imbibed by showing mercy etc. Dharma will win over adharma and there is no escaping from it.

But then we will have state crooks like MK, Mayavati, mulayam etc running to the parliament.,

The SC has only re-affirmed its earlier verdict. BUt the moot point is that the clemency petition is what has been kept pending and probably will be kept pending by the ever Islam embracing, appeasement driven, pseudo-secular Congress and UPA.

It will be good if they are doing this service across and not limitting themselves to specific boundaries at any point in time, decided by the sponsor.

Right or wrong is decided by the media themselves, depending on the command they receive.

PLease check the message of sottovoce above and many others who have aired similar views about police in-action.

Then why people are blaming the police alone. The politicians will have to be bundled and thrown into the deep sea.

Sometimes some people go into a fixed orbit!!!

Why not. Can have best of both worlds.

How about the Shias also??

You mean the Sunnis will be wiped from Iraq??

Politicians and police are hand in glove. Why point fingers at only the police.

I was just posing a question to the person who had posted about bringing to book the police. All know that the police invariably act on political pressures and there is a sweeping comment by most that the police should be brought to book. Arent the politicians getting away from muder quite easily and we the public cannot identify this aspect?

No words can be strong for a shamless party called Congress who have been prostitutiong to protect their selfish interest, right since independence.

Then who are the Congress, who have given birth to it???

Unless Congress along with its Godmother is packed-off, it can only be dooms day.

Wherever Congress is in power, there can never be break down in law and order, even if there is mahyem, chaos, etc, while a mere one-off murder could be a serious break-down in law and order if the state is governed by parties opposing the Congress.

Very true, It is not that these are a recent phenomenon. This is comming to light thanks to the media, who anyway are looking for scripts which will increase their TRP rating and also bring in more revenue.

The UPA Govt. gave ULFA a breather in the name of negotiations and allowed them to re-group. Now they are paying a very heavy price. These politicians never learn.

What if politicians are also involved???

Deserves Nobel Prize for such a discover and Great conclusion!!!

America is quite capable coming to its own favourable conclusion. Suicide as such the PM may not be responsible, if one is directly or in-directly leading any body to suicide, then sure the man is a party to it.

Which is what the Americans are capable of and we are going to be mute spectators, seeing the country dismembered by America as they did to USSR and we are already seeing the effects in the nort-east.

Obvious. Sonia has understood this very well and that is the reason a white skinned is governing this great country with vast and diverse culture and heritage.

Which is what the Congress had envisioned several decades back.

"C"ongress's "B"est "I"nheritance.

On whose incistence? It is obvious that the police are protecting based on political instructions.

Only when the police get the support of the politicians and the local govt. can they act in a corrupt manner. If the Govt. is straightforward any corrupt police person would have long been suspended or even dismissed.

Height of Appeasement and pseudo-secularism. Congress is the worst enemy and traitor to all patriotic Indians.

This stem cell research angle is something definitely worth probing. Probably a wider circle of power and rich could be involved. That is probably the reason why the media is not dwelling too much into it.

Possible. Human bodies are eco-friendly whereas most of the polyester clothings are not and so can survive the decay process.

Shouldnt that state also be considered for dismisal as the subject problems is considered a law and order breakdown. It will not happen as the state is AP, under the control of COngress.!!!!

I beg to dis-agree. The order is to be reversed. Politicians and political system to be revamped, then the judiciary and then the police.

Since CBI is investigating, it will be as per Congress and the centres liking!!!

That could be one way. But they always have the standard way. A drama of "HIJACK"

The trend-setter to this great policy of shame, goes to the credit of Congress, since Independence.

Only a portion of the money received go to them. Major portions goes to the politicians. In most instances, targets are set for the police departments for such collections.

There is no matching done. It is only claimed to have been done. Nobody has disputed that as the family of victims do not have the resources to counter the police claims.

Or may be Madam is not happy with YSR and may be expect a change of gaurd?

You are right sir. BUt knowing the mentality of our poor electorate, this is the most opportune moment to distribute election bribes, as otherwise any money distributed immediately prior to elections would be violation EC norms. As Mr. FDLASH had asked what is the norm for distribution of compensations? None at all. It is a list of prospective elecotrates for the party.

There is no matching done. What ever the police claim as matching is taken as the last word. Are the family of victims are in any way financiallly capable of disputing the claims of the police. None at all. And the matching is done on favourable stances towards the concerned parties.

I understand that the statements recorded during Narco tests are not acceptable in the courts. Those statements are used only to assist in investigation.

1. Basis could be FIR filed on missing individuals not traceable as on date. 2. Again based on the FIR's filed and Police personnel responsibel for that jurisdiction. 3. Ms Renuka Chaudhri had the audacity to say that as many enquiry committees would be initiated as long as the truth come out. That is the truth which the politicians in power want.

Police are like the sniffer dogs of the politicians. Loyal to its masters. Why blame the dog. The master is to be blamed.

Most provbably till next general elections. ANd hopefully there are no other state elections after that in the immediate future especially in any Muslim dominated state.

The SC court in a recent notice to all state govt's had asked for action taken on reforms in Police and also insisted on a fixed duration of postings. Allmost all of the CM's have objected to this. The reasons are obvious. On every change of Govt. a change in police postings take place. To avoid un-wanted transfers, the police are forced to fall in line with the whims and fancies of the politicians, thereby leaving ample scope for irreuglar investigations.

I think there is more of cheques and Balances in overseas banks!!

The Tatkal ticket is charged Rs 150 more than the normal fare. It is also to be observed that the number of Tatkal tickets issued is almost 50% of the available reserved seats. Isnt this an indirect price hike?

You are right. He is not a generic Islamic Terroist, but a SUNNI Terroist, responsible for the masacre of SHIAS.

Iran is a SHIA majority country and have acclaimed the Saddam execution sentence.

Added to the the earlier questioning, is the fact that the accused is well connected with several Congress politicians in Punjab and Haryana. So Congress could have timed the entire episode to precision coinciding with the P elections.

My aspiration is that the faces of the Pseudo-Secular parties be ripped open by the general public and shown the doors.

Is it that wrong incidents are happenning now only in UP and that all other places in India are a haven?

I think Dayanidhi Maran will be the best person to answer this. However one cannot expect any as he probably has given necessary instructions to delay the process.

If The CJI says that it is difficult to detect corruption in the judicial system alone, then they have no right to sit in judgement over other systems. What when the appointee and the appointor are both corrupt.

Generating public opinion for a re-trial is fine, but not an opinion whether the accused should be awarded life term or death sentence. Virual courts and Judiciary is not correct.

Welcome Back. I cannot but agreee with what you have stated.

They too would join the party.

But unfortunately, even if he wants to he is forced not too. Secondly, it is no longer taken as a PM's views. It has been projected as views of the party to garner votes.

Depends. Congress may have surveyed to find out that Sunnis may outnumber the Shias in India or that the Shia community is an insignificant percentage.

What has that got to do with the subject of discussion. Well the fear of US spy network expanding because of the agreement has been always there and shall continue to be, which our Nuclear scientist have raised apprehensions.

Population explosion as you have mentioned is one of the key issues to be focussed. Like Animals people are producing beyond their capabilities for maintenance. Some stringent counter control meausres are required.

Blackmailed????

Illogical derivations and conclusions. Empower everyone through basic education first before looking for higher education. Public Sectors are like retiring rooms for many who have a sense of job-insecurity. MOtivate the youth - yes, with a sense to compete.

The reason for executing is the Shia Masacre by Sadam. The Shias will celebrate as Iran has openly supported the sentence, while the Sunnis are definitely going to avenge and a backlash is definitely to be expected.

She knows that the COngres has almost won the votes of the minorities especially the muslims dominated UP and the backward classes by way of reservations, this is the only option left for her.

PSEUDO-SECULARISM.

When value systems change for the better what you say holds good. Since it is going from bad to worse, a constant reminder is required of past mistakes.

That is your opinion and I have nothing to comment. Good luck.

Strange question. It is absolutely next to impossible if any thing man made can ever withstand the fury of nature.

Red to Green or Green to red can be easily manipulated with an expert auditor. The same Lalu Prasad could not turn his bastion Bihar which he ruled as a supreme commander for 2 decades to green.

To modify a bit, "organized groups of minorities"

Probably also a bad precident of Media high handedness in generating public opinion on judgements.

Wether there was judicial efficiency or not, the media played a role of virtual courts, creating public opinion which is subject to debate.

It has been proved that the Sachar committees report is wrong on a couple major counts.

Thanks for all those who have given their suggestions.

Barter, selfish cost benefit analysis all go into such political outcries.

Unfortunately, True.

But presenting the correct history is also the duty and presenting it does not amount to living in the past.

Mahatma Gandhi gave his infantile reactions through Young India in 1924. He wrote: 'The Hindus have written to me complaining that I was responsible for unifying and awakening the Mussalmans and giving prestige to the Moulvis which they never had before. Now that the Khilafat question is over the awakened Mussalmans have proclaimed a kind of Jehad against the Hindus... The tales that are reported from Bengal of outrages upon Hindu women are the most disquieting if they are even half-true. My own experience but confirms the opinion that the Mussalman as a rule is a bully, and the Hindu as a rule is a coward. Need the Hindu blame the Mussalman for his cowardice? Where there are cowards, there will always be bullies... But as a Hindu, I am more ashamed of Hindu cowardice than I am angry at the Mussalman bullying.'

Hindustan ki Tarakki mein Vishwas.

Nobody is against development of any state or individual. If there is any development, it will ultimately benefit the entire nation. Please look at you post. You have stated that there is no Baron land in WB. Then why attempt any other industrial activity. After all for any Industrial development, land is required is it not, and considering that WB does not have any Baron Land (as per your post), one has to sacrifice some of the agricultural land doing a cost benefit analysis.

Who does not try to get political milage.

Dr.Annie Besant, one of the top leaders of the Congress, fully realised the folly of the perverse Khilafat policy of Mahatma Gandhi: 'Since the Khilafat agitation, things have changed and it has been one of the many injuries inflicted on India by the encouragement of the Khilafat crusade, that the inner Muslim feeling of hatred against unbelievers has sprung up, naked and unashamed, as in years gone by... If India were independent, the Muslim part of the population — for the ignorant masses would follow those who appeal to them in the name of their Prophet — would become an immediate peril to India's freedom. Allying themselves with Afghanistan, Baluchistan, Persia, Iraq, Arabia, Turkey and Egypt and with such of the tribes of Central Asia who are Mussalmans, they would rise to place India under the rule of Islam — Those in 'British India' being helped by the Muslims in Indian States and would establish Mussalman rule.'

The frenzy of Jehad generated by the inspiring Khilafat leadership of Mahatma Gandhi, ably guided by the Ali Brothers, soon spread like wild fire in different parts of India. Beginning with the Moplah rebellion in Malabar district in 1921, it spread to a few places in Punjab and Bengal in 1922 and by 1923 it enveloped many other provinces. The main centres of Hindu-Muslim riots were Amritsar, Lahore, Panipat, Multan in the Punjab; Moradabad, Meerat, Allahabad, Saharanpur in UP; at Bhagalpur in Bihar, at Gulbargah at Hyderabad State and at Delhi itself. At most of these places, it was the Muslims joining the Moharrum procession who had sparked off the communal outbreak and given the green signal for widespread uprising against the Hindus.

A Muslim leader who was considered as a 24-Carat Nationalist by all the Congressites in general and Mahatma Gandhi in particular soared to unimaginable heights when he presided over the Khilafat Conference at Ahmedabad in December 1922. That was Hakim Ajmal Khan. With Mahatma Gandhi and all the other great national leaders— unbelieving Hindu Kafirs— like C R Das, Lala Lajpat Rai, and many others sitting by his side on the dais, Hakim Ajmal Khan declared in a historic speech: 'I envisage a glorious future awaiting our Pan-Islamic Empire. India on the one side and Asia Minor on the other are but two extreme links in a chain of future Islamic Federation, which are gradually but surely joining together all intermediate States in one great system.' When he concluded his speech, Mahatma Gandhi went and embraced him which gladdened the Pan-Islamic hearts of Congressites present on that occasion.

In which Case Nehru, Gandhi etc are history. Let us forget all. Let us also forget the great sacrifices of Bhagat Singh and other brave freedom fighters as well.

Knowledge of history is like an experience and one learns lessons out of the mistakes and take corrective action. Why do we need history in the school sylabus, it can very well be abolished. It is better to be abolished than providing distorted information.

Vishwas ki Taqat?

How many know this abhorable History. Not many, because these have been conveniently distorted or mis-represented for decades since Independence.

I have 2 IT refunds pending since 1997 (1996-97 & 1997-98). I have been trying to get the refunds totalling to about Rs 25,000 for the last 6 years. Every time I approach the concerned officer (who chanege quite frequently), a search goes for the files and finally end-up with a statement from the officers, that files are not traceable. How do I go about this.

May be Phosphorescence.

I have 2 IT refunds pending since 1997 (1996-97 & 1997-98). I have been trying to get the refunds totalling to about Rs 25,000 for the last 6 years. Every time I approach the concerned officer, a search goes for the files and finally end-up with a statement from the officers, that files are not traceable. How do I go about this.

Democratic? - Supposed to be. Truly - Free? - Never will it.

As I have said, the politicians who form the govt. thrives on it and will not shed that from their skin.

By not understanding or going to the root of the problem, there will be no solution. Whatever be the problem, such incident are mainly concentrated in rural areas where the illiteracy is rampant. Any attempt to resolve these issues can be done only if the littercay levels are improved in the rural areas by increasing the educational infrastructure, whwich the govt's over the last 60 years have never attempted nor want to, in their one selfish interest of retaining power.

When thousands of women were raped and many of them killed by the Moplah Muslims during the Moplah rebellion in 1921, the brutalised women of Malabar led by the senior Rani of Nilambur gave a heart-rending petition to Lady Reading, the wife of the then Viceroy of India. I am quoting only the first two paragraphs from this historic petition: 'We, the Hindu women of Malabar of varying ranks and stations in life who have recently been overwhelmed by the tremendous catastrophe known as the Moplah rebellion, take the liberty to supplicate your Ladyship for sympathy and succour.' 'the present rebellion is unexampled in its magnitude as well as unprecedented in its ferocity.'

The message Mahatma Gandhi gave to the Hindu victims of Moplah rebellion in Young India of 29 September, 1921: 'The ending of the Moplah revolt is a matter not only of urgency, but of simple humanity. The Hindus must have the courage and the faith to feel that they can protect their religion in spite of such fanatical eruptions. ... Be the Moplahs be ever so bad, they deserve to be treated as human beings.' Appeasement started by Mahatma Gandhi, continous todate.

Annie Besant exposed the atrocities committed by the Moplah rebels in Malabar as a fearless journalist. Let us hear her describe an act and scene of rape in Malabar: 'Words fail to express my feelings of indignation and abhorrence which I experienced when I came to know of an instance of rape, committed by the rebels under Chembrasseri Thangal. A respectable Nair lady at Melathur was stripped naked by the rebels in the presence of her husband and brothers who were made to stand close by with their hands tied behind. When they shut their eyes in abhorrence, they were compelled at the point of a sword to open their eyes and witness the rape committed by the brute in their presence. I loathe even to write of such a mean action. This instance of rape was communicated to me by one of her brothers confidentially. There are several instances of such mean atrocities which are not revealed by people....

Many wells and tanks filled up with the mutilated, but often only half dead bodies of our nearest and dearest ones who refused to abandon the faith of our fathers; of pregnant women cut to pieces and left on the roadsides and in the jungles, with the unborn babies protruding from the mangled corpses; of our innocent and helpless children torn from our arms and done to death before our eyes and of our husbands and fathers tortured, flayed and burnt alive; of our helpless sisters forcibly carried away from the midst of kith and kin and subjected to every shame and outrage which the vile and brutal imagination of these inhuman hellhounds could conceive of; of thousands of our homesteads reduced to circular mounds out of sheer savagery in a wanton spirit of destruction; of our places of worship desecrated and destroyed and of the images of the deity shamefully insulted by putting the entrails of slaughtered cows where flower garlands used to lie, or else smashed to pieces; of the wholesale looting of hard earned wealth of generations reducing many who were formerly rich and prosperous to publicly beg for a pie or two in the streets of Calicut, to buy salt or betal leaf -rice being mercifully provided by the various relief agencies of Government. These are not fables. The wells full of rotting skeletons, the ruins which once were our dear homes, the heaps of stones which once were our places of worship - these are still here to attest to the truth. The cries of our murdered children in their death agonies are still ringing in our ears and will continue to haunt our memory till our own death brings us peace.'

Yes continuous Karmayoga and not deviate from it till the balance reaches the equilibrium. In fact I was hearing a discourse and in which the learned person was saying that it is not that the debit and credit should tally. One shall attain salvation only when the debit and credit attains 0 value.

Which means the Govt. also cannot talk on those lines, which will only be a dream.

To be saisfied with what one has is a virtue, which everyone should try to imbibe.

If that is the case, WB granery must be full and overflowing.

Appeasement raj.

But unfortunately we have been having only dynastycentric, so called leaders who have been fooling the gullible masses with a pseudonym of GANDHI.

Wether or not it is approved or accepted is a different proposition. The fact that they have atleast thought about it, is to be appreciated.

The polticians are a shameless lot and can go to any extent to garner appeasment votes.

Nothing should be taken in absolute terms. Those are symbolic representation of action and reactions.

Iam sorry, if I have not stated my post properly. I never intended to say that you had posted any message which could have been vulgar. All I ment was that there is no reasoning for either rejecting or accepting a post.

To be read as "genuine convict may escape because of this mental block"

The only thing that strikes me is the fact that, there could be genuine justice to those denied becuase of discriminations. However there could be situations when a genuine under-priveleged may escape because of this mental block.

Bhutan in its proposed democratic set-up and constitution have insisted on a minimum graduate qualification to qualify for standing for elections. This is being opposed by many. Any thoughts?

Convenience. At times the Powers at the center conveniently shirks responsibility stating states duties and at times takes on the mantle of responsibility.

The PM first need to define what Modern Leadership is and also evaluate wether the center is modern in its leadership. It is like giving a certification for oneself.

Mr. Piri, I will not oppose your thoughts. The reason why today, there is so much talk on this is the anti-hindu stance of the Congress for several decades and I am sure you cannot but agree to the fact that minority appeasement is the only mantra of the Congress and the pseudo-secular. Doesnt this go against the very principle of equality.

The need of the hour is to ignore or find out the root to this trend.

Thank you sir for acknowledging.

Very true. Sonia Gandhi in the start to the the campaign for the UP elections, has talked of the Khirlanji incident. What is the relevance of that in UP.

It is the experience of many. There are times when the most vulgar of messages get posted, however sane, factual posts most times get rejected. Try several times, and some times plead and there are chances that one may succeed in getting through with the post. This is my personal experience.

A ministry which should not have been there in the first place.

His statement "his appointment would give an impetus to the processes of equality". could be viewed as a biased one.

It is believed that Nethaji was alive at the time of India's Independence, but news that Nethaji died in an aircrash was floated. Nethaji was living a life of fugitive as his life was under threat from several sources. Nethaji would surely have become the PM, which was also the wish of the people. You can probably now surmise, why The Mukherjee commission on the dis-appearance of Nethaji was rejected. The commission came up with a report that Nethaji did not die in the plance crash. Congress rejected the report.

Democracies all over the world including communist countries like Russia, declasify information whiah are 30 years old. The reason for not releasing this information is not out of public interest but out of a private interest.

Iam not sure if RTI would be applicable if the company is not a govt. body but a private one.

Despite the Chief Information Officer A N Tiwari's warning to the Union Home Ministry that it would take stern action if the ministry did not furnish the 202 documents on Netaji under its possession. The Prime Minister Office has refused to furnish data on documents and records it held on the mysterious disappearance of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. Dhar, a journalist who has written 'Back from the Dead: Inside the Subhas Bose Mystery' and whose organisation is on a campaign to bring out the "truth" behind Netaji's disappearance had requested the files invoking the RTI.

He is the senior most. This practise has been in vogue post emergency, when several senior judges were overlooked and a junior appointed as CJI, which had devastating repercussion by way of those senior judges opting for retirement.

Mr. Orbitual who has stated "If so than why tall claims are being made since centuries that a particular religion is the best on earth.", to which I had made a statement that there have been no claims as being the best.

Very well said.

Thanks. My anger and opposition to that so called resolution was because of infringement on our internal matters.

By down right rejecteing the EU resolution, unfortunately some see the thoughts as one of supporting the so-called claims of attrocities and dont realise that it is one of interference.

I do agree that the Vedas and other Hindu scriptures do not support the caste system and it is practiced due to convenience of individuals. My statement was to highlight discrimination. It could be caste or religion or any other form.

My post is one of cynicism and not one of accepting the practices. In fact I have been opposing this projection of media as unwarranted.

Let me ask you a question. You seem to have acknowledged the resolution of EU on the discrimination in India. Will you support and insist that India pass a resolution that all nations should not have religious statehood and those that have adopted such constitutions should be condemned.

Very true. These promotions I guess is on some peoples top priority agenda.

There is nothing like god. God is within every individual. It is the individuals actions which is either evil or good. Evil actions are debited to ones account and good deeds are taken as credits. The cycle of Karma continues untill the debit and credit tally, at which point one attains salvation.

Insecurity is as you mentioned a feeling, which may or may not happen. That event is unknown. Hence as you mentioned goes under the cover of faith for support. Religious conversions are induced with materialistic comforts and not because of faith.

It is not endless. It depends on the dharma one performs. If one goes through the reactions of ones Karma as a duty and does not continue to act in a manner which is against dharma, one is bound to attain salvation to end the cycle.

Insecurity is a factor which can neither be predicted or quantified.

That is Karma. But that does not mean that who suffer cannot come out of it or those who inflict cannot get away from it.

Insecurity is ones perception and not instilled by any one.

But one thing we should appreciate of the media is the concistency irrespective wether the news is one of appreciation or crime. In both the cases they highlight the caste.

Which govt. are you referring to, State or Central. Some of the state Govt.s are preferring to move over to state language as medium of instructions.

That is the problem of numbers and lack of population control.

Brilliantly put.

The insecurity is a perception of the unknown.

Then to have a state religion is wrong and for the sake of arguement, there should be no objections if India adopts hinduism as state practise.

Atleast there would be some change in stances and spreading of facts.

Was there an objection. I was only referring first to clean their own backs before attempting on others. Moreover it is our internal matter and we donot want any interference.

There have never been any claims on being best.

You should understand, that by the very fact that they want a reference to christianity in the constitution is one of giving importance to one section of believers, which is in iself descriminatory.

Seven states, led by Italy, urged the union to recognise a "historical truth" and refer explicitly to the "Christian roots of Europe" in its new constitution. The largely Catholic states of Italy Poland, Lithuania, Malta, Portugal, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have made clear they want more. The Vatican has made clear that it wants a reference to Christianity in the document. "If you are the prime minister of a Catholic country it would be very useful to have the Pope on your side, especially when you hold a referendum on the constitution," said one diplomat. It is an Irony, that VATICAN wants christianity included in the Constitution of the EU.

First let them clear up their stinking toilets before they give sermons.

And gradually become a dump yard.

And the dirrectors are foreign donors of such NGOs.

Fear of the unknown leads to faith, while as you said to seek the truth without fear or favour is the path of spirtuality.

Why have you left the politicians. The main culprits are the politicians who influence, sabotage and change the directions of the investigating agencies on the evidences.

This very same EU wanted a stance on christianity to be incorporated in its constitution. What double standards.

Thank you sir.

But I think the SC court has given a ruling that life sentence is until death and if at all any clemency can be shown can be done only after 14years.

Manu Sharma is the son of Vinod Sharma a Congresman in the Punjab Assembly. Your analysis is absolutely illogical.

You are right, Mr. Betterlife.

You mean puppet with strings attached to every limb and the strings controlled by one person who decides the movements.

The translated text is fine. The interpretations are only different by different schools of thought. Let us take a simple statement. "A is a wrong" one school of thought will sit and analyse and find out where one has gone wrong. Here the interpretation is one of retrospection. There could be another which will strongly keep refuting in the process committing more wrongs. This is an interpretaion of cynicism.

I like the way it is worded.

Very similarly others also speak facts.

Burning is no act of bravado. Anyway there are certain things which can never be destroyed. What is perceived as destroyed is only physical.

Just as you claim as facts from your source.

I agree on the ills of the practices and not Hinduism. Fight within and not escape.

But the leaders want to. The leaders want the gullible masses to believe that the reservation is going to benefit the genuine socially poor and deprived, but in actual practice they want the benefit perenially.

To accept ones follies is a virtue by itsef. I hope the polticians and beurocrats also follow such virtues.

At height of Idiosyncrasy to call Congress as secular.

Well said. They dont have the guts. Even the atheist like the DMK and DK talk ill of Hinduism. They dont have the guts to utter one word against any other religion or religious texts.

Donate physical services anywhere. It could be even outside of temples.

I take in the positive sense. In fact it has given me a greater thrust to understand Hinduism and has only enhanced my faith in Hinduism.

In fact this has made me firmer in the belief, that the power is omnipresent.

True.

People who do not attempt to understand or accept facts, react in such manner. It is best to ignore.

What if the surmountability itself is a problem?

You are correct. I got myself updated on this only yesterday. However there is still a clause which states that the jail authorities can review the term after 14years and consider reducing based on good behaviour.

Which is what the leaders want. The leaders want the gullible masses to believe that the reservation is going to benefit the genuine socially poor and deprived, but in actual practice it is different.

Now it is not a family and there is nobody in the Lall family except for Sabrina.

When we are centered in that quiet empty place, our perceptions are clearest, our hang-ups are diminished and true essences come into focus. Our expressions flow more smoothly. Our creations are most flawless. This empty place is called in the Sanskrit wisdom texts Nirvana and Sunyata.

It was not a delay but outright rejection at the first couple of instances.

The law has not changed. It is the actions and the resulting reactions is what we perceive as change.

The action towards equilibrium state can be achieved, if ones reactions to actions however adverse it may be, is one of acceptance and not react in a manner agravating the problem thereby going away from the equilibrium state.

It is not they dont understand, they just dont want to.

Then our MB exchanges have no value?

In India Life term is a mis-nomer. It is just 14 years. And come every Independence day, a year could be reduced on the grounds of claimed good behaviour.

Our gullible electorate dont realise this.

And also funding the election expenses of those terroists who subsequently stand for elections.

Some such phobic news is floated, especially when the womens reservation bill is planned, for its smooth sailing

One of the law, is Law of nothingness. As a corollary it cannot change.

That which binds man to His Essence, to His Being, and this binding is, precisely, the Cosmic Law. Will provide more details

That is your choice wether to do a self study to attempt to understand or fall back on a guide.

Aroma to one may be alergic to another. As regards, dress code, let us not go to extremes of either a Bikini or a veil. We can definitely be moderate and definitely, some of the Indian ladies dresses like the Sari or the Salwar Kameez are fairly descent and covers almost the entire body. Dont tell me that they are also indescent. A diamond if kept in a bank locker is of no use. The brilliance of it will be highlighted only if light rays fall on it.

Would you mind responding to posts rather than repeating the same message.

They are allowed. However through a seperate enclosure and may be at different times of the day which does not interfere with the timing of the men's prayer time.

Absolutely. Tirupathy has become like the BCCI. Money spinner.

It is not so. The 2 posts which subsequently got posted namely the "Natural Law or Karma" and the "Eternal Law" where the ones I attempted to post in this thread.

May be it is our Karma that we have to attempt several times before it gets published.

The sufferings or happiness are all reactions of the actions by the causer. This will continue till the causer orients towards the equilibrium state by deeds which does not disturb the natural law.

Absolutely.

Natural Law. It is known that every action draws along a reaction. In other words every cause has an effect. When we live in harmony with the Natural Law, with the Sanatana Dharma, it's like the scale of a balance, which keeps its equilibrium; there is no effect because there is no cause. Now, since the equilibrium is disrupted, that is, since we are no more living in harmony with this law, since we are infringing this law, then an effect will come up, the scale of the balance will be unstable. 'Action' in Sanskrit is called 'karma'. As the effects of the action are inherent in the action itself just as the tree is contained in the seed, the effect of the action is also known as "karma". The action is not finished until the last effect of it will be finished. Every action outside the Natural Law will therefore draw along a "karma" that is an effect, a reaction. The normal tendency is to regain harmony; the tendency of the scale of the balance is to reach the state of equilibrium. This come back to the equilibrium is effected by the actual experience of "karma", the power that makes the scale regain its state of equilibrium. This is the real meaning of the word "karma" which in a sense can be said to be scientific or moral or whatever you like. It is thus, it's Law and not even a jot of it can be discarded.

This means ‘Eternal Law’. When the word 'sanatana', which means 'eternal', 'imperishable' is added, then the expression 'sanatana dharma' means 'Eternal Law', which is the Law that governs the whole Cosmos, the only one which is eternal and imperishable. The Sanatana Dharma is therefore the Cosmic Law, the Law of Nature. Hence we see that this expression should not be restricted to the word 'religion', as some people translate 'dharma'. true Hinduism, the true Sanatana Dharma, rejects blind faith, but on the contrary asks man to self-determine, to reject all dogmas. The path of the Sanatana Dharma, which is the path leading to the discovery of the Truth, can therefore be also called 'Science'.

It will then be a jungle law and survival of fittest. Rather it would be better if attempts are made to rectify the system.

Not possible in this forum as some of the posts do not get posted. I have attempted twice and have not been successful.

It will be difficult to discuss as the moderator appears to be not convinced of my posts.

That is because the public have a short memory span which the politicians clearly understand.

It is not inference or interpretations, but translations.

Then the deserving levels should be increased from 60% to may be 80%.

This is the precise reason why I dont go to temples. Take the case of tirupathy, the place from where you enter into the temple is decided by the amount of money one is willing to give. I guess lord Venkateshwara gives a comfortable darshan to the rich while the poor will have to stand in ques for hours. That does not mean that I am an atheist or scoff at people who go to temples. I believe that God is omniprescent, omnipotent and omnicient.

Do you now realise that the quota has been benefitted only by a selct few for generations.

This term ages has been going on for ages. Let meask you a question since you seem to fighting for a cause. Why dont you oppose the inclusion of the creamy layers.

Do you claim to have a thorough and complete understanding of the Vedas and Upanishads?

They are getting a share out of the booty.

Yes. They are all leaders because of illogical electorates.

Yes it is a philosophy. As regards the language of the scriptures, yes I agree that it may be greek and latin to many, but there are still die-hard sanskrit lovers not only in India but even outside, who have taken the pains of translating. Unfortunately the Govts. since independence have made all attempts to kill the language. As regards one roof, as I had mentioned, the roof is the objective of meanigfull life and if ones to be under its shelter, one has to work towads it.

In fact in Chennai, there is a temple called Shiva-Vishnu temple both under the same roof.

But do we have a common civil law?

That is what I have said in my post "So long as it does not hurt others".

I should probably re-phrase it by saying "May be I have not explained the concept properly"

I dont think you have understood the concept. The support systems and the means could be different, however the objective and the goal is one and that is to live a life of meaning and satisfaction without affecting the society.

One may not be able to say what is the oldest or the first religion. However the way of living as conceived by Hinduism is probably the oldest surviving.

Idont think it is true. Atleast not in the urban and semi-urban areas.

Let us hope for the best.

It is from some ill-conceived individuals intelect, dedicated to lead a meaningless and selfish path.

It is generic and has been highlighted for the specific purpose of the need for a common civil code.

The belief is each, lives ones life the way ine desires so long as it does not hurt others and is meaningfull in some way or the other to the society.

I tried posting this message despite nothing damaging. Let me attempt for one more time. Friend - You have in one of earlier posts have said and I quote "Yes indeed some useless and good for nothings will deffinately get the premium degrees and all those illitrates who donot have so much knowledge will either become doctors or hold other important degrees." A person with little knowledge and especially a doctor, has the license called a degree in medicine to kill.

You are right. Our politicians are like James bond 007, who never gets caught and escapes from any trap.

The need and type of support system varies from person to person.

First we must prevent over population, untill then life saving research will only add to the count to our ever increasing population.

You have not understood the background. Periyar was a known atheist and an anti-hindu. His statue was erected right in front of the Srirangam temple. The Hindu organizations opposed this move of the govt. and requested that the statue be removed from that specific place. In the mean time, some miscreants, desecrated the statue of Periyar. The aftermath of that, was the attack by the activists of periyar on the hindu temples. Now comming to my message. All I wanted to convey was, had the people who were opposing the installation of the statue, had said that Periyar in the form of a statue was waiting to have a Darshan of the Lord. It would have definitely hurt the ego of those activists and would have voluntarily shifted the statue away from the place.

Why do you think they have included creamy layers. The yadavs, paswans, Ramadoss will perenially get the benefit.

All that is not important to our learned HRD minister and politicians. They are providing licences to kill. Since the elgibility is scaled down, they probably will also be provided a grace of upto 40% death ratio due to the very same reason of lack of opportunities.

Well yes. Courts do involve in their ruling only when it comes to Hindus, but not in case of any other minority religion. Unfortunately our constitution is tailored so.

I have said on several occassions that people like Arundhati Roy, champion leaders of so-called NGOs aided by foreign donors are ant-national. But some people fail to understand.

But the so called expert politician that he is does not realise it.

Oh No!!. The supreme court will then intervene. It cannot be more than 49%!!

For you information it is not AIIMS but ICMR (Indian Council for Medical Research). In fact that finding is all the more importatnt in a country such as ours where the population is exploding. Do not treat as a trivial research.

To practice and become an expert one needs such support system in the intial stages. You may check this with any meditation expert.

Our politicians will ascribe that as a foreign hand for the growth to our population.

childish warning issued by the Union Minister of State for Home, Sriprakash Jaiswal to the kith and kin of the security personnel who lost their lives on 13 December, 2001 defending the Parliament against terrorists like Mohammad Afzal Guru. Sriprakash Jaiswal has said: 'Nobody should do anything against the Constitution'. He has warned the families of the security personnel killed during the attack on Parliament in 2001 who have returned the medals to the President yesterday, calling it unconstitutional.

NOw that you have brought the issue of land reforms, the recent trend of escalating real-estate cost due to the money power of the NRIs, has left the middle class with tougher access to owning even a small plot. Your thoughts on the same.

My dear Mr. Piri, I donot go to temples. Moreover people who visit temples are not only the rich.

The trouble started with the desecration of the Statue. If people had been smart, and instead of desecrating, had just said that may be periyar is waiting for a darshan of the lord, things would have been different and the statued would have been shifted immediately.

Iam not sure if it is just the voters. There are also several views that the poll observers have strong affiliations to the communists for several years, which the EC has also commented on.

One of instance. Rajputs are considered the warrior clan.

If you take the example of meditation, there are several ways. One of which is to concentrate on a burning candle in a dark room, and with the increasing light intensity of the room, the focussing and concentration power becomes that much more intense or alternatively focus on a dark spot on the wall of a bright room and by decreasing the intensity of the room light, the concentration power increases.

Sometimes the cost of transporting is higher than what they are getting for their produce.

Not with the current set of politicians who want creamy layers also to be included.

Minority appeasement, Divide and rule is the policy.

A voluntary request to beautify a mosque and in that process some major discover were made. The government’s preference for concealing rather than excavating or uncovering artifacts which may throw new light on history is illustrated by what happened to the Rudramahalaya complex at Siddhpur in Gujarat Following repeated demands by local Muslims, the Archaeological Survey of India decided to beautify the surroundings of the Jama Masjid. As the digging began to lay a garden in the surroundings, several artifacts including a Nandi bull were recovered. These discoveries made it plain that buried under the mosque was irrefutable evidence of Hindu heritage. But the discoveries embarrassed the local Muslims so much that they sought the intervention of the Gujarat Government, the Ahmedabad High Court as well as the active intervention of the National Minorities Commission to stop further excavation.

Yes sir. Prayers are conducted. Wether or not prayers are conducted, it is fact that those structures have been constructed over temples.

The baclog is because, the creamy layer continues to get the benefit perenially. Secondly the rural education infrastructure is so pathetic that they remain backward with no acess to good education and the urban economically sound but yet claim backward status who keep benefitting.

Injustice is injustice whatever be the cause and be it Viharas or temples.

Multitude of IDOLS are only objects to concentrate for people who have difficulty in concentrating on the formless. As regards multitude of pot holes as compared to one well dug up well, it is a question of access to a few close by or providing access to many taking into consideration the logistics.

Iam not talking of the Ayodhya issue alone.

I can provide recorded proof of several cases. The Brijmandal Mosque (temple) in Vidisha, accepted by the Archeological survey of India as well.

Atheists and atheisim is not the question. The discussion is one of preventing people from entering temples.

Congress is known for their minority appeasement, now they are adding another dimension of Kashmir Appeasement.

Mr. Nariman, employment does not stop with those 2000. This will also lead to development of a township around the factory, with ancilliary support services which also require manpower.

A law is required to convict anybody who prevents people from entering temples based on social status. This should be a non-bailable offence with a minimum of 3 years RI.

If Past injustice is quoted for social justice, can this not be extended to other causes such as the several demolition of Hindu temples and mosques built, which need to have justice in the form of resurrecting those Hindu temples.

Poluting, perverted Congress.

True. But if education is not available for the worthy, then those seeking self employment or in non-govt organizations will be only a mirage.

That is obvious, especially with Congress.

Priyaranjan Das Munshi has yesterday stated in the parliament that the PM will not take back the statement. All the explanatory statements by the PMO are all only word play. The objective is now clearly estabilished, that the PM statement is for minority appeasement and UP elections.