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JEGGANATH
Location: Puri, India
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BJP and its supporters were saying BJP has done lot in past 4.5 years than what congress done in past 5 years. This is a very rediculous arguement. People who are saying cant give any statistical proof for this. Its like saying In past five years I have eaten more food than what my father ate in past 50 years Even if BJP said lie, that must be meaningful and believable.
Do you think Vajpayee acted Independently?? Even vajpayee was puppet under RSS, VHP & Advani gang. The real foresight primeminister is Nehru only. When nehru becomes PM, India was a new born child. Nehru vision on India was like a Mothers vision on Child. Nehru has the real thirst to develop the nation. That thirst we couldn't see on anybody who is becoming now as PM. Whatever Big Public sector Industries, Dams, Power generators, airports, ports, Railways, Postal network, Infrastructure of Army, navy, airforce etc etc everything made only during nehrus period
The real foresight primeminister is Nehru only. When nehru becomes PM, India was a new born child. Nehru vision on India was like a Mothers vision on Child. Nehru has the real thirst to develop the nation. That thirst we couldn't see on anybody who is becoming now as PM. Whatever Big Public sector Industries, Dams, Power generators, airports, ports, Railways, Postal network, Infrastructure of Army, navy, airforce etc etc everything made only during nehrus period
I know you are blind supporter of BJP. For that please dont support even messages against nehru
Who built Bhakra nangal? Who started ISRO? Who Started Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd? Who started DRDO? Who started IMA dehradun? Who built 5 IITs in India Who formed Panch Sheel? tell me who? Comparing Nehru with current BJP leaders is like comparing tiger and tiger like cat
If Dalits demand for Reservation, Let us give Anadaman Nicobar islands as Dalistan and expell all dalits (who are demanding for reservation) from India to that Island and give it freedom. Atleast that time India will be free from these kind of pestures.
Each city has its own plus points and Minus points All cities can be expected to have same plus point I have lived in Hyderbad, Mumbai, Delhi, bangalore and chennai all atleast 1 years. I know about all cities well All are having plus points as well as minus points Afterall all are India So dont fight for cities within India If possible compare Singapore or Newyork with Indian cities.. Then all have to keep quiet..
I welcome Chidambaram with full heart. I also can accept vaiko to some extent.. But how can you say ramdoss?? That too based on caste...? Caste politics must be thrown away along with routes by educated youngsters like us. If we educated youngsters itself supports caste politics then where nation will go?
I respect your view.. But until what time the reservation will be there?? Gandhiji told to keep the reservation policy only for 20 years. Now it almost happened 55 years after independence. Until what time this reservation will go? Yeh reservation kab thak chalegaa? Enniku Mudiyum Indha Ida Odhukkeedu Kolgai?
First we have to combinely send FAX and Telegham to President and Prime minister against this reservation scheme. Somebody must take initiative for it. If we can manage to send 1 lakh telegrams and Fax atleast it will have some effect. I have full hope that our president Abdul kalam will pay heed to this word. Because by nature he is agianst any move which affects the talented students progress
As a result if this law within next 50 years no competent people will be India, all will migrate and become citizens of some other country I hope you are more concerned about nation and skilled students. I hope you will ask the govt to reconsider the Bill, If they pass it. Thanking You, Yours Truly Ramakrishnan R
Ram vilas paswan yesterday also told that he will bring reservation in Pvt sector. It was there in CMP also. Also it seems BJP also supporting this bill. Now the scenario is like nobody can stop reservation in Pvt sector If it is below 10%, Ok its not going to affect much. But if it is 50% or more like Govt jobs, It is going to make the country sick If we have reservation in Pvt sector, No foreign companies will invest in India, Job oppurtunities will come down drastically All the competent people who didn't got job by this reservation will be forced to quit India and to search job in some other countries. As a result if this law was brought, within next 50 years no competent people will be India, all will migrate and become citizens of some other country. Bringing reservation in Pvt sector and pushing India into B-i-t-c-h are one and same But nobody can stop this... that is the bitter truth
Good Analaysis.. I agree with you almost 99% But only one thing...In Infrastructure you said mumbai is best, But I have lived in mumbai I think its infrastructure is not planned for 1 crore population. Mumbai's highest population made its infrastructure little insufficient, That you yourself can understand by frequent traffic jams and Flooded streets by little rain.. You have given the four title 1. City life: I accept it is Mumbai the first 2.People Attitude: Non of the metro, Village people are 100% better than city people 3..Jobs and Opportunities : I accept it is Mumbai the first 4.Infrastructure: Sorry... I feel it is Delhi first in this.
To make sure that they will be lazy always, communists dont want to relax their grand old rubbish policies Atleast now, know the reason why most of the Bengalees are lazy bundles.. Otherwise how communists can come their again and again despite of backward status of that state.
Believe it, Nobody even talks with each other in our office while working from morning 9 to 5 PM. Still many more can be said But first thing which Indians have to learn in Talk Less Work More
If we really need to improve down troddens let us help them in improving their skills and give them good environment, By free education and medical care But giving reservation for non skilled persons in job will make this country sick If we have reservation in Pvt sector, No foreign companies will invest in India, Job oppurtunities will come down drastically All the competent people who didn't got job by this reservation will be forced to quit India and to search job in some other countries.
Whoever against reservation, Please send mail to president from this site http://presidentofindia.nic.in/scripts/writetopresident.jsp I already sent mail to President like this Respected President, Now the new UPA goverment is trying to bring reservation in Private sector. By this move they are taking India backward.
All communists are lazy bundles They dont want competition from Outside world. If there is no competition, Their workers can make money even by producing low quality goods sleeping all days in house, involving in strikes and protest in rest of time.
Whenever I am seeing super clean roads, disciplined people, work more talk less custom, Well organised practices and seeing no poor persons here, I am thinking.. when India will become like this.
No need for special facilities to NRIs. If India is not disgracing them that is more than enough
Remember one thing first. NRIs also Indians. Who contribute lot to Indian economy. If NRIs are not there, Indias economy will fall down atleast by 50%. Dont utter words against NRIs thinking them as some persons of enemy country.
Each budget can have only one important goal. Attracting FDIs already aimed in past 4 to 5 budget Now it is time to reduce the gap between Rural and Urban India Now it is time to improve rural economy Budget has got right way at right time
Just 1 month before I was not an NRI, Now I am an NRI gone to work in UK for 1.5 years through Indian company. Wherever we go atlast we have return to India only. But after seeing developed countries discipline..... Indian people must change a lottt to improve First thing I will suggest Indians must less their talk and concentrate on their works In all developed countries people are working with full concentration from monday to friday and enjoying weekends like festival. Believe it, Nobody even talks with each other in our office while working from morning 9 to 5 PM. Still many more can be said But first thing which Indians have to learn in Talk Less Work More
You are absolutely wrong I was in India for past 25 years. I am in abroad for past 1 month. I know what is India is, How much it has changed. Come out of India and see how much other countries have developed Until you never come out of your own world, you cant see the development of other nation. India has to develop in lot of areas. particularly in discipline. And eradicating poverty. Whenever I am seeing super clean roads, disciplined people, work more talk less custom, Well organised practices and seeing no poor persons here, I am thinking.. when India will become like this.
Central Govt can only allot fund and monitor. Actual execution is only in the hands of State Govt Lets wait and see
This is a easy way of making money, Getting money from gamblers(day traders) is not wrong. I expect much more better budget from PC in march 2005, That time he will..., I have hope
I accept your views. I too fall in same category of above 1 lakh, salaried. I have always one openion that only salaried people are prompt payers of tax (no other way) What about business man and shopkeepers easily earning more than taxable income but not showing true account?? Until now there is no transparant way to monitor the income of business man Also I expect finance minister to increase the penalty and punishment severely for cheaters in tax payment But as a whole this budget is too good for a 100 days govt with laloo and communists on either side This budget has really focussed in reducing gap between rural and urban, rich and poor, deveoping and underdeveloped states. So I welcome it. Also I welcome 0.15% tax on share transaction .This is a easy way of making money, Getting money from gamblers(day traders) is not wrong. I expect much more better budget from PC in march 2005, That time he will..., I have hope
Today Loc, tommorow kashmir, next jummu what do you say. if orders given to military its a metter of 2 days. what to do if pakistani army is moved out of loc means indian minorities will be hurted so status is mantained because of minority sentiments
Today Loc, tommorow kashmir, next jummu what do you say. Its not a cancer its a question of border, which pakistan agreed to go back after indian arym agreed to come back from lahor. Indian army cam back but pakistan did not move, but they can be moved out of loc if orders given to military. what to do if pakistani army is moved out of loc means indian minorities will be hurted so status is mantained because of minority sentiments
It is the media which says unsolved, it is the politician who are favouring muslims are not solving this. Given a chance to Military for 2 days it can be solved for that a good leader who favours this country is needed, who is elected by good citizens who will not vote on elections, because it's a Election Holiday.
you are right
Don't forget what happened to them who distrubed the peace. Remember what happened to the countries which supported for september/11. One or the other will come forward for protection of peace.
It is in the agreement that pakistani's should go back of LOC to its border. But our leaders don't want this issue because it hurts muslim sentiments.
No country which is following islam is in peace today. This is what islam gives if you accept. You cant live peacefully when you are alive what you can do after your death.
When there is a Party President as forigner, of the ruling party, When there is a party which neglected the KASHMIR for the favoring the Minority Muslim community. According to Army Chief it is true, Pakistan started its activity in POK which is in its control. Even in manipur, all the 32 organization who called for Bund, and said they will ban Indian Products means they are not Indians, Military, Police and Central Government should declare emergency in manipur and arrest all the activists of 32 organization. but the govt is stand still, because all the 32 organization is from Christian community, which get support form party president. Also a huge arms were recovered form manipur University. What does it mean, it might be millitants and saperatist in the name of students so they should be killed. Regards Shankar
First Know about what Brahmin is and then make a statement on Brahmin.
Also a huge arms were recovered form manipur University. What does it mean, it might be millitants and saperatist in the name of students so they should be killed. Regards Shankar
Even in manipur, all the 32 organization who called for Bund, and said they will ban Indian Products means they are not Indians, Military, Police and Central Government should declare emergency in manipur and arrest all the activists of 32 organization. but the govt is stand still, because all the 32 organization is from Christian community, which get support form party president.
Even today we have buldings, roads which we proudly say Cubbon Park, Victoriea Hospital which were sine of salvery. Thanks for the document with date. I will forward it to my friends. Vandemataram
You are true, Once Bihar which was one of the educated state in our ancient period, was the target of British, which transfered all the tutors to clerical dept, by which today it is one of the top illitrate state. Earlier britishers were imposed ban on seeding cotton plantation without the permission of government, because cotton which we grow and get our own fabrics for use. This ban was removed after 40-45 years of independence.
Our government will sustain such incident because those who were killed were Hindus. If muslims or christian were killed then it would be a big issue
what to do even today govt is doing the same, collecting all the revenue of temples and spending on Mosque and Church for Mullas, Divorsed Muslim women, Haj Travel all these money from Temples only. Now Maharastra govt. want to aquire Shridi Temple Resource and its revenue.
The disgusting acts and events emerging from abugarib reminds us of the days of ss generals and concentraion camp and are unacceptable and goes beyond civility. I applaud the Indians for their strong condemnation of this worst crime of the new millenium.
The arabs are to be blamed for the debacle in Iraq, Iran, Libya, Palestine etc...The arabs need to be united to defend their region from US, cause they have the largest oil reserves...This happened to India as UK ruled them for centuries as the kings were not united...
The arabs also need to modernize their society and come out of their medieval beliefs and provide equal status to women to take their region forward...they have wealth, resources and man power to be a great superpower...
Also i firmly believe that those countries with theocratic and autocratic mindset would not progress...
I have told you fellows how you could avoid being humiliated further. If you take note of it it is good for you, or else you have only seen the trailer. For each BJP brand of shit I can drown you in your own sewage tank.
Talk sensibly and with decency, you might find it a more fulfilling experience. If you go on in this mood of yours, You may soon begin to regret it like your guju brother.
The twin satans Bush & Blair are the two topmost terrorists in the world. They have killed millions & millions of innocent people in Iraq & Afghanistan. The innocent people who have lost their near & dear ones in the war will try to seek revenge. More terrorists will be created thanks to the action of Bush & Blair.
Dear guju and co, Hope you have got my message and will be careful in future so that you do not get humiliated again. Write meaningful posts and you will get meaningful replies or else you are in for something that will make you pack your bags and go home.
You have already seen how you could be pinned down and screwed till it aches. Avoid posting such cheap mud slinging messages like your favourite leaders if you wish to be treated with dignity here. For each BJP brand of shit you post I will make sure that you have a taste of your own medicine and you will drown in your own sewage tank. Try and post meaningful posts if you have to, or else get the hell out of here.
Listen you bum. This MB is a facility to be used intelligently to share our opinions. Making foolish statements and assumimg they are funny is not a very constructive way to use this facility. You maybe a bjp chamcha trying hard to make a point, but let me tell you that you are fooling no one but yourself. Talk sensibly and with decency, you might find it a more fulfilling experience. If you go on in this mood of yours, You may soon begin to regret it like your guju brother.
Stop sympathising and start using the MB with decency and proper use of your common sense if you have any, and you will get decent response or else you know what to expect. Do not tell me later that I did not warn you.
Do you work in Gujus grocer's shop? In that case why you give misleading answers on behalf of him to my question about his dad?
It is proper and constructive use of the MB that most would like to see. If I run you down personally, or post cheap and offensive messages against you , and others, will you still stand by what you have just stated. I have not done it as yet, but if you wish to have a feel of it, before you can decide on that, I can give you an experience which you will not enjoy.
The innocent people who have lost their near & dear ones in the war will try to seek revenge. More terrorists will be created thanks to the action of Bush & Blair. The twin satans Bush & Blair are the two topmost terrorists in the world. They have killed millions & millions of innocent people in Iraq & Afghanistan.
The twin satans Bush & Blair are the two topmost terrorists in the world. They have killed millions & millions of innocent people in Iraq & Afghanistan. The innocent people who have lost their near & dear ones in the war will try to seek revenge. More terrorists will be created thanks to the action of Bush & Blair.
Why don't you tell them the truth, that paying tax is your fathers job. You are just a waster whiling away your time here.
You LKB, WHY DON'T YOU GO AND ASSIST THE CBI, INSTEAD OF EATING OUR HEADS WITH YOUR STUPID NONSENSE?
It is more urgent to investigate if you were born from the front or from the backside and whether you came out head downwrds or upwards. Also if your brains were located in your backside which you have been defecating in the sidewalks of gujrat as you grew up.
What happened you did not understand the questions? Too difficult for you to answer?
No you answered just now. You confirmed you were born from the backside, upside down and therefore you think asswise. Since you are a guju you must be defecating in the streets of gujrat and what you do here is just the shit that's left in you.
You are very right. Some of those who are more keen on using cheap and foul posts to make their point, will get a taste of their own medicine in return.
Would you like to speak and respond on a topic in which I accuse your dad of stealing the neighbours car last year or said that your mom got screwed by the dhobi in a cold wintery night when your dad was away?
Respectable people have lawyers to deal with cheapies throwing slush. It is uncultured gujus like you who go about shooting your mouth and answering when your mom is accused of getting screwed by a dhobi.
What difference does any thing make to a guy whose mom dismisses his dad and gets screwed by the dhobi?
I am unhappy to learn that you are my step brother. I ask you not to insult our father. My mom is very satisfied with his performance and says he is the only GUJU with a 'big deek'
I even acknowledge you as my step brother with a small deek .and I am glad you now realize your dad is not responsible for it, and that he produced both of us and as mom says he is the only guju with a big deek.
Just because we are half brothers it does not mean we believe everything is half half okay? What is all this you talk of half men like trannies and half lies etc. Come on accept the truth or ask your mom and she will tell you all.
He was a cartoonist, but has turned out to be one of the biggest cartoons, but not as big as you even then.HEY YOU COCK SUCKER, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON A MESSAGE BOARD LIKE THIS? YOU LOST YOUR WAY LOOKING FOR THE REDLIGHT AREA INSPITE OF BEING BORN AND BRED UP THERE?
He was a cartoonist, but has turned out to be one of the biggest cartoons, but not as big as you even then.
My advice to all, never be born a guju, especially one of your kind. Being an asshole is also a matter of pride compared to being you.
how could they ? All your uncles in BJP, when in trouble fart loud from their backsides about it.
NOT MANY SIT AND PLAY WITH A SMALL DEEK LIKE YOU DO ALL THE TIME BROTHER.
Not you, You are a born asshole. There isn't any need to do that with you, even BJP knows that I am sure.
Silly fellow, you ask how he stands his mom. You never ask how your mom makes every one's stand. By cock sucking ofcourse you bum.
If Musharraf married your mom, it would help you and BJP to further improve relationship with Pakistan. That would fetch them more votes, and you would feel even better. Hopefully , your mother would feel good too, with two to service her and a dual nationality to boot..
brother, you are getting mixed up a bit, he answered our father.
I WILL STAND BY MY HALF BROTHER, HE MAKES SENSE TO A FEW OTHER ASSHOLES LIKE THIS PIYUSH GUY.
Yeah, there are some whose soul is full of hope. Bur here there are BJP guys whose holes are full of soap.
So you guys have decided to be captured, looted raped by local fellows led by an international pariah called modi.
Good one. Did not realise he has this habit also. Infact most of the things he has said here are probably addressed to his backside.
Tell you what, The moderator stops it to avoid the interaction getting lengthy especially when you have given this guy enough. This has been my experience, and as you know, I have given him and his friends a ood taste of their own medicine. That is the language these guys understand, I regret to say.
If you sent this patriot's comments to ABV and ask him to agree, he would if we all assured him of your vote. That's all he wants.
They speak filth and therfore understand that kind of language better. Many including myself have tried and given up polite discussions and healthy debates with these cheapies. If it is muck they like, some of us have to give them a taste of their own medicine. Intelligent discussions are anyway beyond them.
HEY BROTHER THERE IS A MAJOR ROLE YOU CAN PLAY IN THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF ASSHOLES.
Brillant post, By a BJP fan I presume? What high standards of thinking, What clarity of purpose? More or less the same as that of some of the party leaders.
I dont need any assholes advice here. In any case what makes you imagine you have anything worth while to say. You shut your trap and go take a running long jump.
AFTER MORE THAN 1200 POSTS YOUR POSTS ARE STILL RUBBISH AND MOSTLY REPEATING THE SAME THINGS, MY BROTHER.
SOME FEEL PREVELEGED TO USE IT AGAINST SOME OTHERS AND OTHERS ARE PREVELEGED BY MERIT TO BE CALLED SO.
good post. If you have no point to make keep it short. You are little confused I think. All Jockers are the guys in Jocks. They are also called Men in khaki knickers.
You better worry about elephants and psychos instead of human beings.
I am sorry for you if you live in a slum, but you can always ask your bjp to improve your dwellings. By the way do you know how many zeros are there in a billion?
While you and the psycho will be probably masturbating and 'feeling good', Sonia will continue to be the leader of the opposition, and will continue to work for the party and try and consolidate the gains of the party. She will continue to be visited by every foreign dignitary visitibg the country due to her position as the leader of the opposition. She will still be living in style and status in 10 Janpath and you and your friends will not be permitted inside the boundary walls of her premises. You may be arrested and jailed if you try to.
Did you sleep last night after seeing latest exit poll results of NDTV?
HEY BROTHER, DO YOU REALISE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE MADE SENSE?
Never mind if you are called a special idiot as long as you are in the lime light?
Don't worry about your spellings, your posts don't mean much anyway.
Vajpayee is senile, has speech defects, memory loss and has fake teeth, fake knee caps and fake ideology.
You are right brother, they should realise by now that we fools wish to remain fools, why argue with us when we will never change?
But my dear brother. You never have a rising situation below and you must have adapted to that too.
And you are an unidentifiable specimen. Very special kind of idiot who cannot be compared with any other.
I knew you will come to senses and join me and our dad.So you have formed a mutual admiration society of idiots?
There you go comforting yourself by including others. Why do you need more? you guys together make up for quite a fellowship of farts.
Deve Gowda went to Moscow with a towel over his head and spoke nothing, that was okay with you. There is talk of Mulayam also as a contender for PM's post. What would he be speaking? Vajpayee may need a stretcher and blankets, to be in Moscow if he is required to go there in winter, as Gowda was.
Some consolation you derive by imagining that all are idiots. Even the MB finds it difficult to decide which post of yours it must reject, between the foolish one and the meaningless one.
It is time they banned NDTV polls, before the bjp supporters here go into a severe depression. As per todays news,It appears that bjp is fast losing ground and now whether they will have majority even with allies is becoming doubtful.
Hey brother, Ram is a male sheep but bjp worships it along with VHP.
Calling your dad names like that? Shame on you.
abey oye bjp kay chootiyas. tujheydesh key secrets yaa politicians kay secrets ka kya khabar hai. jaa pakistan jaa kar dekh aa shayad wahaan kay logon ko tujh say zyadaa maloom hai. Aur gadgay. Sonia indian citizen hai jaisay tu aur mai. Italy ko hindustahan ka kaunsaa secret zaroorat hai? Aur bewaqoof. Agar bjp ko tujh jaisa chotiya ka shuck adhaa bhi hotaa, tau Sonia aaj is desh kaa opposition leader nahin hotaa.
Do not talk of manifestos and things like that to morons. Why do you insist upon there disclosing their IQ level?
Aren't you really bright? No wonder you formed this fellowship of yours.
That's great. You guys do not need much coaxing to disclose how stupid you can be. See what I mean guys, about not involving these morons into serious discussions like manifestos etc.
We do have modern day demons like MODI among the Gujjus. But why Do you get into our family interactions?
If your expectations are in your belly , you have to just remember who you slept with in the recent past.Also , do remember I do not belong to your mutual admiration society of fools, and so do not expect admiration from me.
Sorry buddy, I know how to keep fools in there place, without getting into writing any bullshit out of context as you guys do when you get cornered. Even when I have to hit below the belt, I will do so in a subtle manner.
I am certainly not the wisest and do not claim to be so, but I have made my view very clear about you and will not repeat it again. I think you have got my point and it looks as if you are bent upon proving me right as you go along writing more and more foolish and sometimes meaningless messages.
You do not have to wait that long. If these guys read NDTV headlines today, they will go into a depression. Todays news is that Congress is fast catching up, bjp has problems in Goa, and Mumbai where their effort at wooing minorities and the North Indians is being rejected. Whether they will reach even the halfway mark seems to be doubtful now, according to the latest exit polls.
TERAY BAAP TERI ASHUDHDH BHASHHA SUN KAR SHARMAAKAY MARNEY KAY LIYAY TAYYAR HOGAA. AGAR TERAA BAAP FAUJI HAI AUR BATTLE CASUALTY HAI TAU TU UNKAA NAAM BECH KAR BADAA BANTAA HAI? TU TAU EK NALAAYAK BACHCHAA HOGA TERAA BAAP BHI JAANTAA HOGAA.
WHAT GOOD IS YOUR SELF RESPECT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH COMMON SENSE? AVOID READING NEWS THAT SPEAKS THE TRUTH IF THAT HELPS YOU MAINTAIN YOUR SO CALLED SELF RESPECT. A WORD OF WARNING FOR YOU AND THOSE OF YOUR KIND. BE PREPARED FOR MORE DISHEARTENING NEWS, LIKE THE NDTV LATEST EXITPOLLS OF TODAY, AS THE FINAL DAY DRAWS CLOSER.
Thoda below the belt ho gayaa, magar , sense of humour ki daad daynee padaygee.
That is a very inappropriate question to a dimwit. These guys do not know their elbow from their ass and are in any case too busy now with whether india is still shining for them. The ndtv is rather disappointing for them today with the news that bjp and its alliances may not even reach the halfway mark.
Do not bring your religion and your father's name to disrepute, by invoking their name to defend yourself and your despicable conduct.
A not so educated man but better upbringing than his fellow bjp supporters. Good to see that there is one like you and perhaps more in the crowd there. There is still some hope, with a few like you, for the people you stand for.
India can be a better and cleaner place without locals like you.
But you are shameless enough to use its MB to earn your 'chai pani' campaigning for BJP here.
You have posted this just for the sake of posting something. You have little or nothing to say in response to a candid post.It is a pity you are not even among many fools who post messages to see their names among top surfers. You are a total failure in other words.
You have mellowed a lot after the exit polls have come out, but you cannot hide your worry as you seek comfort in the present result which shows bjp alliance 'still' ahead of the congress alliance.
And you expected to establish a super power regime with bjp having two thirds majority and so you feel all screwed up now.
That is exactly his point. You guys will take any trash and bullshit and market it as reality. It is not selling any more my friend.
The moot point is , whose reality is it? If you are not really selling anything , please call it your reality, or better still, do not use the term reality at all.
Vajpayee presides over and defends a bunch of lowdown people who do not care or respect even their father and mother I am sure. They are a bunch of nasty fellows who do not care for, life truth and justice. What are you talking about respect being a student of the culture they have shown and preached these 5 years..
Someone took his backside yesterday, and he was making wierd sounds like a chimp and sometimes like a goat. We were having fun more than him. Unless he was enjoying getting screwed
But that is not news about people with false knee caps, false teeth and false promises.
You must be really stupid and blind for sure. That is okay, but how is it that you talk so much rubbish when you are dumb too.
Who is filtering what? when you see the posts of Labak doss and gujju raining in from all sides. The trouble is that the Exit polls have put a lot of a***s on fire.
You were an eye witness, were you? I thought you work in Disneyland as a clown.
He has lost the ability, after getting screwed here so many times. He now suffers from chronic griping after the battering his backside has got.
This guy already accepts that bjp will be in opposition . He however is confused whether Ramesh is supporting BJP after having been here for long enough and posted over 1700 messages. Shows how much he reads others posts. Too busy posting his own stuff. Or Maybe he has not understood what he read before answering, which is quite like him.
You are an exception my dear, but you are not absolutely alone friend. You are among the five most stupid guys on the board and are also the top surfers.Imagine the plight of the people who wish to have sensible discussions here when there are over 6 thousand posts by you stupid guys flooding the MB?
Atlast you have confessed that you discuss trash, but why do again say all are doing the same as you?
You really think that was a rejoinder? Come on, you must be joking. No argument this time to that one. This one is for your score, is it? You really sound all screwed up now, and the results are not even out.
If they do indeed, it will be a far cry from the super power regime you were expecting. You have given up on the two thirds majority for BJP, and also the two-thirds majority even with alliances. Now you may depend on smaller parties being a little kind to BJP and not demand too much in return for their promise to keep you afloat. This is what Congress really wanted and seems to be very much on the cards.
That is good news in a way. Not all people can keep laughing while they are in their death bed waiting for the curtains to fall while they suffer.
When you are having such griping pains and loose motions, why don't you go to your toilet if you have one in your home, or just do it in the bylanes as many do in your neighbourhood. Not here please
As one who is representative of the those who are feeling good today I will advise you to go to your toilet and cry to your hearts content singing the anthem you have composed in your own notes.
That is good news in a way. Not all people can keep laughing while they are in their death bed waiting for the curtains to fall while they suffer.
you fart, this rumour spread by your humiliated leaders has been denied by Rashtrapati bhavan through a press release. Now FO.
Vajpayee can teach , how to go out in disgrace after 50 years of so called political experience.
You are right. Infact he is the slyest fellow here. Others say things openly, but this chap defends some of the worst fellows on the sly, pretending to be an innocent guy. He is a fanatic like the rest of them, but he is in disguise like Vajpayee. He even does a lot of double speak if you read hia posts. But of course he is now famous for his vague and meaningless two liners meant to add up to his tally.
That's the problem with you. If you are not trying to outscore others, you are trying to educate others. What gives you the idea,that you can educate people here with your kind of brains?
See he knows how to count. He counted all his holes but he forgot the biggest one which is between his two ears.
Ignore the fellow. He never said a thing which meant much. He is still upto his anbition to be top surfer. That he is top idiot was established a long while ago.
Here we have the no 1 idiot of the board with another one of his masterpiece. It has still not dawned upon him that BJP is out of power when it was expected to sweep the polls with their great leaders known to be (in)famous for their abusive and nasty campaigning.
Just who are all these 'we all know ' guys you always mention. You do not know how to speak for yourself or what?
Another imposter from bjp, and a shameless one who does not mind saying he is bluffing.
You have been voted the biggest idiot already, though it hardly needs to be announced. Your 2000 posts confirm it. Your ability to run and hide after being caught on the wrong foot is also well known.
In India only tribals are knows to admit a murdersous crime after walking upto the nearest police station. There is no incentive for a criminal to admit his crime as is prevalent in many countries.. NO WONDER THE LEGAL FRATERNITY PROSPERS AT THE COST OF THE STATE MACHINERY WHICH IS NECK DEEP WITH PENDING CASES.
I fail to understand why the election commission permits the tainted politicians to contest elections at the first place. There are still many in the tainted ministers list in the current govt. In fact, the Govt is running on the support of this tainted ministers. So if there are so many in the queue, the topic should continue unless the others are taken into custody.
7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
5.Rajiv Pratap Rudy-just recall his endeavour in Goa, free bill all Government paid in 5 Star hotels, you will get your own answers. 6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
4.Venkiah Naidu-A joker, more known for his pompous remarks than creative skills. 5.Rajiv Pratap Rudy-just recall his endeavour in Goa, free bill all Government paid in 5 Star hotels, you will get your own answers. 6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
3.Pramod Mahajan-lesser the said about this fellow, the better, doesn't have control over his tongue like his friends Modi and Togadia, is a kingpin of dirty politics. 4.Venkiah Naidu-A joker, more known for his pompous remarks than creative skills. 5.Rajiv Pratap Rudy-just recall his endeavour in Goa, free bill all Government paid in 5 Star hotels, you will get your own answers. 6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
2. Sushma Swaraj-Talks biggie, performs lousy, usn't in good books of Vajpayee, lost to Sonia in Bellari, was unsuccessful in retaining Delhi for BJP, promised a lot for IB ministry , all lies. 3.Pramod Mahajan-lesser the said about this fellow, the better, doesn't have control over his tongue like his friends Modi and Togadia, is a kingpin of dirty politics. 4.Venkiah Naidu-A joker, more known for his pompous remarks than creative skills. 5.Rajiv Pratap Rudy-just recall his endeavour in Goa, free bill all Government paid in 5 Star hotels, you will get your own answers. 6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
1.shourie wasn't ever a BJPite or RSS man, his inclination towards privatisation brought him close to Vajpayee, he is often accused of receiving kickbacks in privatisation deals, remember Sterlte buying Balco at throwaway prices courtsey Shourie? 2. Sushma Swaraj-Talks biggie, performs lousy, usn't in good books of Vajpayee, lost to Sonia in Bellari, was unsuccessful in retaining Delhi for BJP, promised a lot for IB ministry , all lies. 3.Pramod Mahajan-lesser the said about this fellow, the better, doesn't have control over his tongue like his friends Modi and Togadia, is a kingpin of dirty politics. 4.Venkiah Naidu-A joker, more known for his pompous remarks than creative skills. 5.Rajiv Pratap Rudy-just recall his endeavour in Goa, free bill all Government paid in 5 Star hotels, you will get your own answers. 6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
Your observations show that you are living in a fool's paradise, barring Jaswnat Singh, none of the people deserve any merit whatsoever. 1.shourie wasn't ever a BJPite or RSS man, his inclination towards privatisation brought him close to Vajpayee, he is often accused of receiving kickbacks in privatisation deals, remember Sterlte buying Balco at throwaway prices courtsey Shourie? 2. Sushma Swaraj-Talks biggie, performs lousy, usn't in good books of Vajpayee, lost to Sonia in Bellari, was unsuccessful in retaining Delhi for BJP, promised a lot for IB ministry , all lies. 3.Pramod Mahajan-lesser the said about this fellow, the better, doesn't have control over his tongue like his friends Modi and Togadia, is a kingpin of dirty politics. 4.Venkiah Naidu-A joker, more known for his pompous remarks than creative skills. 5.Rajiv Pratap Rudy-just recall his endeavour in Goa, free bill all Government paid in 5 Star hotels, you will get your own answers. 6.Yashwant Sinha-Claims that he brought economic reforms before Manmohan singh, cannot prove anyway.Was ideologically nearer to Chandrashekhar, now claims Advani is his God, sheer opportunism. 7.Jaswant singh-last but not the least, in bad books of RSS , so his future isn't bright anyway.
What do you know abot the two nation theory , Gujju boy!Your mentors like Togadia and Modi always wanted a Hindu Rashtra for their use like Jinnah and Liyaqat Ali Khan did, only Congress under Gandhi opposed partition.
Of course, his juniors, and then who's responsible for that?Isn't a superior responsible for the deeds of his staff? Regarding Naidu, you are getting emotional there.I don't have anything in personal against him as you may think, in fact I am an admirer of the other Naidu-Chandrababu one, and pls. don't bother to compare the two. For Mr. Mahajan, his utterings prove what sort of person he actually is, i don't need to say anymore about him!
Finally Rudy,aah!The whole media saw and reported his irregularities and Goa gimmick, even though you call him a saint, why not, what else can be expected from a die-hard BJP fan. Let's wait for the result of his Chapra contest with Lallu, his political career is at stake over that.
Now if you able to give a clean chit to a dirty player like Mahajan, then you shouldn't find any fault with the likes of Kapil Sibal too, these two are ideologically different but behaviour wise brothers. Finally Rudy,aah!The whole media saw and reported his irregularities and Goa gimmick, even though you call him a saint, why not, what else can be expected from a die-hard BJP fan. Let's wait for the result of his Chapra contest with Lallu, his political career is at stake over that.
Knowing anyone in public doesn't make you a criminal, and those who are reaping benefits by raising this issue somehow time and again shall try to extradite Quattrochi, or they don't want to do that so as to keep on reaping benefits oout of that?
What yes, don't you have anything else to say other than that?Or your mental level is not beyond that?
We were sensitive even then and even now, because we are sensitive to every human tragedy.But this won't get into the thick heads of you BJPites, as human rights are something alien to you guys.
Right, you conveniently forgot Shourie this time.By patting the back of Yashwant Sinha, maybe you aren't serving the purpose of BJP either, he hasn't anything to do with RSS whatsoever, let Congress come to power one day and he won't hesitate to switch over there. Naidu was made the president not for his ability, but for getting a foothold in South, he doesn't seem to have the calibre or talent to rise to the President's position in a cadre based party. Now if you able to give a clean chit to a dirty player like Mahajan, then you shouldn't find any fault with the likes of Kapil Sibal too, these two are ideologically different but behaviour wise brothers. Finally Rudy,aah!The whole media saw and reported his irregularities and Goa gimmick, even though you call him a saint, why not, what else can be expected from a die-hard BJP fan. Let's wait for the result of his Chapra contest with Lallu, his political career is at stake over that.
I don't have anything in personal against him as you may think, in fact I am an admirer of the other Naidu-Chandrababu one, and pls. don't bother to compare the two. For Mr. Mahajan, his utterings prove what sort of person he actually is, i don't need to say anymore about him!
Yes, Sajjan Kumar was an accused but he has been exonerated, but many like me and of course you still belive he is not wrongly implicated along with the likes of HKL Bhagat and Jagdish Tytler(incidentally he has also been given a ticket) Now this is the shortcoming of law enforcing agencies that such people go scot free and its the shortcoming of people like us that such people (I am including Modi in the list as well, sorry for the inconvenience caused to Modi lovers) get elected.
It seems you have conveniently copied and pasted this article from somewhere, better would have been if you had just pasted the link onstead of wasting the bandwidth. Yes, Sajjan Kumar was an accused but he has been exonerated, but many like me and of course you still belive he is not wrongly implicated along with the likes of HKL Bhagat and Jagdish Tytler(incidentally he has also been given a ticket) Now this is the shortcoming of law enforcing agencies that such people go scot free and its the shortcoming of people like us that such people (I am including Modi in the list as well, sorry for the inconvenience caused to Modi lovers) get elected.
A thief becomes a thief only when he's caught, BJP always keeps on blaiming Rajiv for Bofors, bu refuses to acknowledge its own shortcomings. Receiving kickbacks in privatisation deals is an open secret, how Balco deal was secured by Sterlite isn't unknown, now if we suppose Shourie didn't take money, then who did?Of course, his juniors, and then who's responsible for that?Isn't a superior responsible for the deeds of his staff? Regarding Naidu, you are getting emotional there.I don't have anything in personal against him as you may think, in fact I am an admirer of the other Naidu-Chandrababu one, and pls. don't bother to compare the two. For Mr. Mahajan, his utterings prove what sort of person he actually is, i don't need to say anymore about him!
Yes, indeed justice delayed is justice denied, but our Judicial system has many merits also, otherwise there wouldn't have been any accountability for corrupt politicians and savage criminals.
Are u sure, Ramesh? That means Piyushk is getting into Gujju mould?
Yes, an accident due to carelessness and greed that could have been avoided.
I can only pity upon your sycophancy.Why don't you first go and ask your dear Mr. Modi to repent anyway? Regarding the accident due to Sari distribution gimmick by BJP and now that even EC has asked for trial on Mr. Tandon, you still dare to offer your ghastly opinion over that?
The land reforms undertaken by the CPI(M) government there is a great success story, economic imbalances are the least in West Bengal, the labour unions have been empowered to safeguard the rights of workers from exploitation, though in late 80's, it also resulted in many lockouts, but Bengal is on roads of Industrial success again.
West Bengal's industrial progress might have retarded, but there are many bright things too to look forward to.The land reforms undertaken by the CPI(M) government there is a great success story, economic imbalances are the least in West Bengal, the labour unions have been empowered to safeguard the rights of workers from exploitation, though in late 80's, it also resulted in many lockouts, but Bengal is on roads of Industrial success again.
Abe Gandu Harmkhor, tereko madarchod kehna sab madarchodon ka apmaan karne ke barabar hai.
These guys will justify anything on the context of something supposed to have been done by their adversaries years ago.The BJPites gave the same anti Sikh riot argument while justifying Gujrat riots and Modi's role in that.
Syed so as to pave way towards formation of a popular Government in J & K. Regarding industrial policy and Kashmir problem, Kumarp is spot on.
But don't you think the Congress also deserves credit for subduing the aspirations of its own chief ministerial candidate Ghulam Nabi Azad in favour of Mufti Mohd. Syed so as to pave way towards formation of a popular Government in J & K. Regarding industrial policy and Kashmir problem, Kumarp is spot on.
Well, I find all correct with Kumarp's 3 observations, still i want to differ in case of J& K elections, yes, it's really the first time that these elections were held in a free and fare manner, full points to the central government over that.But don't you think the Congress also deserves credit for subduing the aspirations of its own chief ministerial candidate Ghulam Nabi Azad in favour of Mufti Mohd. Syed so as to pave way towards formation of a popular Government in J & K. Regarding industrial policy and Kashmir problem, Kumarp is spot on.
Your pessimism is something that I shall agree with, but the need to to bring about a vast and drastic change in the system as a whole, not that we take arms in our hands and declare free for all or everyone to himself or herself.Yes, indeed justice delayed is justice denied, but our Judicial system has many merits also, otherwise there wouldn't have been any accountability for corrupt politicians and savage criminals.
How conveniently this guy forgets that this is the same TN seshan who wanted to be President using Shiv Sena's support.
Kumar,he won't discuss Gujrat, he certainly won't , people like him only know lecturing others.They conveniently forget that all modern day politicians are species of one kind. He will just keep on sledging Congressi politicians and ironically will venerate BJP ones for the same vices.
No wonder, like Mr. Modi, you too will blame everyone and every institution that tries to perform its duty impartially by upholding the law.
Right, then why did you bring into account EC's intentions in first place, hasn't EC always acted impartially irrespective of advanteges of any particular party?
After he has retired, he can join any party if he wants so.There's no harm in that, wonder whether you would have reacted like this had he joined BJP instead of Congress.
For your kind information, he is no longer in EC, he has retired from there.When he faught the elections for Presidenship, even at that time he wasn't in EC anymore.
Isn't right of freedom, be it of speech or act, a fundamental right of every citizen as long as it doesn't harm or interfere in anyone else's. As long as Seshan or Gill were in EC, did they show favors to any party, wasn't this the same Advani who used to sing praises for Seshan for his electoral reforms?
First thing, decisions taken and policies adopted in politics are always political, social welfare is always at backstage, now come on, pls. don't suggest that BJP fellows are saints, they too think and behave like same. Secondly. Calling it a poll eyewash is a news to me, even adversaries of Indian policy on Kashmir(which is unanimous across party line in India) like CNN reported free elections, so advice you to check your facts. Finally, regarding industrial policy for which you are singing praies for BJP are very unlike its own ideology.It was Congress who started Globalisation under Manmohan Singh, of course by taking a leaf out of China's economic progress. As far as India is concerned, ours is a big diversified nation, here only long term policies based on many years old foundation only get implemented.
Nobody is a Mother Teresa now a days, even Mother was accused of campaigning for minority christian rights.Tell me , did Seshan wrongly favoured any party in defiance of his duties as CEC during his tenure? What he has in his mind and what he does after retirement in public life is his personal business, anybody shall not have any problems to that.
As long as Seshan or Gill were in EC, did they show favors to any party, wasn't this the same Advani who used to sing praises for Seshan for his electoral reforms?
Average vote casting in India is not more than 50 %, in peaceful states with no history of extremism, it is considered good polling if reaches upto 55 or 60%. That these elections were free and fair, irrespective of the numbers that came out casting their votes, is not untrue.
What's good or bad for him in public is his own business, as long as he was a Government servant, i think he abidd by his duties most faithfully.
My mind never gets overheated, i advice you to get a bit impartial.Moreoevr, it was you who mingled Seshan with Congress , anyhow, i don't think his entry will prove beneficial to Congress anyway.
As far as India is concerned, ours is a big diversified nation, here only long term policies based on many years old foundation only get implemented.
So that's excatly what your problem is.Seshan is not that big to even dream of giving someone like Advani a run for his money, maybe it was a symbolic contest at the most, as probably no one in Congress locally would have dared to face Advani.And there's nothing wrong in that even, Seshan wanted to contest as he wasn't anymore bound to constitutional duties and Congress gave ticket, that's all.
Finally, regarding industrial policy for which you are singing praies for BJP are very unlike its own ideology.It was Congress who started Globalisation under Manmohan Singh, of course by taking a leaf out of China's economic progress. As far as India is concerned, ours is a big diversified nation, here only long term policies based on many years old foundation only get implemented.
How many times do you pretend to be impartial in a day, ask yourself, following anyone without caring for their bad aspects and ridiculing others without caring for their virtues isn't going to take you anywhere.
Secondly. Calling it a poll eyewash is a news to me, even adversaries of Indian policy on Kashmir(which is unanimous across party line in India) like CNN reported free elections, so advice you to check your facts. Finally, regarding industrial policy for which you are singing praies for BJP are very unlike its own ideology.It was Congress who started Globalisation under Manmohan Singh, of course by taking a leaf out of China's economic progress. As far as India is concerned, ours is a big diversified nation, here only long term policies based on many years old foundation only get implemented.
Mate, your post gives an impression as if you believe that there are all saints in your beloved party and all other parties are constituted by bloodsucking devils, its hypocritic veneration at its strangest.
Don't be so sure about what's going to happen in Rajasthan.Probably you don't know or don't want to know what happend in assembly elections.Even your own BJPwallahs don't say that Ashok Gehlot was or is a bad man, he was popular and had also done good things, just his equation wth Jat mahasabha didn't click and BJP exploited it. Regarding Lucknow tragedy, whatever reasons you may give to justify what has happened and how ever much your Atalji sheds crocodile tears over it, he and Tandon can't escape the responsibility of killing so many innocents, they'll have to face the tune of law one day or other.
What about the likes of Modis and Katiyars?
If Modi and Mahajan are "great", then probably they consider Godse and Savarkar as "Gods", no wonder these are the ideas of a fanatic.
Regarding Lucknow tragedy, whatever reasons you may give to justify what has happened and how ever much your Atalji sheds crocodile tears over it, he and Tandon can't escape the responsibility of killing so many innocents, they'll have to face the tune of law one day or other.
You mean "Andhon Mein Kaana Raja", but boy, i feel this kaana raja of yours is too timid to do anything of his own , he will just enjoy the status of a PM like he always does and will allow Advani to do all damages he wants to do, i_e a free run for rogues in a lawless nation.
He claims that he's not in politics but then conveniently makes politically degradatory statements, can anyone forget him calling Sonia "the Kutiya of Rome"?
Your statement reflects your background, probably you won't even hesitate calling your mom or sister by such names.
Can only pity your level of common sense, probably this feelgood farce has gone too much into your head.
No wonder, this statement comes from you, a diehard fanatic.Actually, Our nation would have been much better without the likes of these all "JI"s of yours.
Now you are expecting too much out of me.As i tried to inform you earlier, being "anti BJP" doesn't necessarily mean one is "pro congress". Probably people like that of your mentality make such things too clumsy to be understood properly.
I am not going to waste my vote on either Sibal or your "TulsiJI, I know both aren't of any use.The former is dangerous to democracy and the latter is a mere showpiece.Instead, I will search for an independent with clean background, however less may be his chances of winning.
I don't need to do that, i am neither blind, nor a fanatic, i know rogues are a universal phenomenon, irrespective of party lines.
I didn't say that all shopkeepers support Congress, after all your BJP itself is a "Brahman Baniya" party.If you are living in heart there, maybe you are right, but as far as i know(I happen to be a frequent visitor there, have many friends), I can see things bright for the Congress candidate there.
If you happen to read my posts, I normally try to contest those who keep on singing praises for BJP, i find it hypocritical.I normally refrain from saying good about Congress, but now if someone deglorifies Nehru or Indira(sometimes the Mahatma too) for none of their fault, then i have to be assertive. Anyway, i don't have any hopes pinned on Congress, the good old congress that faught the freedom struggle for us is long dead.
This is an insult to them, had the Government had courage to represent the true state of Nation in front of all and then seek votes, I would have voted for them.Remember, feelgood shall not be a proprietory of a selected few, it has to be shared and enjoyed by masses.
Be realistic & keep that shit reserved for your "Tulsi JI" babe, Sibal is going to win there thumpingly, courtsey the large no. of Muslim voters.
Nobody denies that, but don't say there aren't rogues in BJP , in fact the whole BJP is infested with rogues.
Advice you to go and pay a visit to Chandni chowk and have a talk with shopkeepers there, i live nearby that and i know better.Anybody from Congress will win, be it Sibal or anyone unless and until there is a drastic division of votes.
Yeah, how can i forget that "Shahabuddin" is your bunny, as i said you sometime earlier, this Shahbuddin is negligible, he is as big a fanatic as Modi or Katiyar or for that matter Togadia,Indian common public is sane enough to neglect them.
Patel Sahab, you are maybe taking all and sundry for granted.The NDTV you are cursing is the same NDTV that has predicted a landslide majority for your venerable Modi as far as LS elections in Gujrat are concerned. So you need not strain your mind by thinking vague ideas like low turnout due to temperatures or for that matter, the deeds and misdeeds of Mr. Hussein. After all, NDTV has to cater to the tastes of a lot no. of people.
A criminal is a criminal, irrespective of cast, creed or religion.A terrorist is a bigger criminal, he's not worthy of any rights as he's trained not to care about rights himself. Now if you find muslims victimised for that, that's your problem, nobody can do anything about it.
Now who gave you this right to decide whether who is fit or unfit to be a citizen of India, are you God ar some self proclaimed extra constitutional authority like Mr. Thackerey of Shivsena? Don't say bye or run so soon, you have many a thing to answer before that.
Now here we come where we two differ.I just want to say that this false propaganda of feelgood or india shining is mallicious, its being done in severe betrayal of aspirations of a common man ,of thousands of poor who are still under poverty line, for millions of literate unemployed, for the poor farmers who regularly have to commit suicide.This is an insult to them, had the Government had courage to represent the true state of Nation in front of all and then seek votes, I would have voted for them.Remember, feelgood shall not be a proprietory of a selected few, it has to be shared and enjoyed by masses.
Your anger is not unwarranted but unjustified.Punishment shall be given but only to the guilty, not to the innocents.What was the crime commited by the innocent women who were raped and small children who were murdered and burnt alive by RSS and Bajrang Dal goondas?Do you really think these anti social elements were doing all these for Modi to uplift Hinduism? No, they were doing it for monetary looting and Modi was allowing this to happen to gain electoral mileage, that he was finally able to secure for himself.
Let me see the supposed posts so that i can clarify!
You seem to be newly passout from RSS school.What Nehru and Gandhi have done for India can't even be imitated by your Godse and Savarkar, who pleaded repentence to Britishers.Those who killed Gandhi and were a party to the success of two nation theory are now running the affairs of this country, what a shame!
Boy, that's a new term called "Secular Goons" courtsey a fanatic.What are Modi, Togadia and Katiyar in you opinion mate-are they "Apostles of Peace"?
So you need not strain your mind by thinking vague ideas like low turnout due to temperatures or for that matter, the deeds and misdeeds of Mr. Hussein. After all, NDTV has to cater to the tastes of a lot no. of people.
How does your query fit in the context of the topic that we're discussing?
Maybe , you are unaware of the facts, most of the terrorist acts are carried out by muslim youth trained to be terrorists or fidayeens by Pakistan's ISI, its not the muslims that the law enforcers are arresting or terminating, its the terrorists , that's all.
Can you pls. elaborate?
You are absolutely on track Sir, now pls. tell me, isn't freedom of expression a fundamental right imparted to us by the constitution and doesn't the free media have a duty to perform in an impartial manner to the nation? So it has to invariably put out all sort of news items on platter, now its seriously upto me and you to analyse them upto our own viewpoints, now don't say that there's all wrong with that too!
Are you somehow offended!I don't think that "Old man" is any dirty pronouncement, moreover , this MB has witnessed many such words that are anything but mentionable.
You have made yoursef perfectly clear , now i agree with you totally.
No, they were doing it for monetary looting and Modi was allowing this to happen to gain electoral mileage, that he was finally able to secure for himself.
I talked about Vajpayee, and his wordings that aren't hidden from anybody!Now if you get embarrased by your own idol's words, i am sorry, i can't help you there!
Just wait and watch!After Vajpayee, there won't be anyone to take over the reins, forget Advani, nobody will accept him.So automatically, the decline of such divisive forces will get started.
Yes, but then Congress isn't complaining about that, Vajpayee is!And that too when his partymen say that this is the age of coalitions!so what do one proclaim!Is the PM out of his mind due to effect of age or is he playing pranks?
Just yesterday the old man said in a rally that he is tired of coaltions, now isn't this a warning signal for the partners, who are faithfully supporting BJP in its every cause like even including Mandir issue in agenda?
Don't talk about pure, this is the age of adulteration. Besides, do you know it was Hitler and his dreaded SS and Gestapo that too talked about purity of blood and extermination of those that they considered inferiors like Jews and Gypsies. What finally happened to Hiltler is known to all, he had to commit suicide like a rat in a bunker.
If you are right, then that means the old man is acting funny!He knows that he is a saleable commodity and so he is testing the patience of the allys.
My father's isn't that old, by the way if your one is old, don't hesitate to call him so!
Are you somehow offended!I don't think that "Old man" is any dirty pronouncement, moreover , this MB has witnessed many such words that are anything but mentionable.
My first instinct was not to react to your dirty message, still will appeal you to stop this character assasination, this is not going to make you gain anything.
Yes, but then Congress isn't complaining about that, Vajpayee is!And that too when his partymen say that this is the age of coalitions!so what do one proclaim!Is the PM out of his mind due to effect of age or is he playing pranks?
Agreed, Congress is day dreaming.But then what makes our distinguished PM utter such anti-coaltion remarks, he enjoyed the status of PM that a man like him never deserved (case is alike Deve Gowda ) courtsey the loyality of these allies.Then where's the problem is the statesman PM getting selfish?
Then what!Isn't AIADMK limited to TN , isn't BJD limited to Orrissa, isn't Shiv Sena limited to Maharashtra or isn't TDP limited to AP, all are NDA allies.
Personally I don't like Lalu(except his jokery on TV), but hadn't he been a mass based leader, he wouldn't have been in power in Bihar for so long. Now when you say "Giving chance to others", who will exactly do that?The people of Bihar na of course! So let the decision be taken by them only.
Yeah, so we confine our discussion to "less no. of allies". Now if this is really the point, pls. tell me which are the allies the BJP will not want as ally(let's call them least favoured) and which are one who are more favoured, now pls. keep George Fernandes out of this, he is like a pariah!
He need not come out of Bihar, same is the case with Mr. Thakrey who , if in any hypothetical case, comes out of Mumbai even , noone will even bother to have a look at him. Yeh kutte apne ghar mein hi sher hote hain.
Can only pity you and your personal vendetta.
I am afraid if the SC bars such criminals, then either the political arena will become empty(which is rather unlikely) or the corrupt politicians will join hands to take on the judiciary itself citing the reason that the Parliament is equal if not greater to judiciary, then the common man will suffer more.
Similarly, Sonia remained undecided for many years whether to enter politics or not after assasination of Rajiv, but finally bowing to the pressure from Congress workers and common public, she decided to enter politics, i see nothing wrong in that.
Sonia never wanted herself or her husband to enter politics, after Sanjay's demise and consequently Indira's assasination, Rajiv was forced to enter political arena, much to the discomfort of sonia. Similarly, Sonia remained undecided for many years whether to enter politics or not after assasination of Rajiv, but finally bowing to the pressure from Congress workers and common public, she decided to enter politics, i see nothing wrong in that.
It seems as if you don't know about Nationality law.Rahul and Priyanka are born Indians as their father was an Indian citizen, they are Indian nationals by birth and whatever strange suggestions under whatever stupid influence you may give, reality won't change.
How do you exactly propose to bring about such changes?
For a middle income group person like myself, it has become a standard assumption that all politicians are corrupt without barrings and they are good for nothing as far as nation building is concerned.
Nehru's government with its 5 year plans slowly and gradually managed to improve the situation, true, Nehru was wrong in overdoing with socialism, but the whole world then was under influence of communism due to soviet Union's newly acquired super power status and its victory over nazis, at least Nehru was successful in preventing India from making itself a satellite of USSR, as Pakistan under Liyaqat Ali Khan made itself for America. We had many challenges, true, we didn't become successful enough in tackling them but saying that had Mr. Vajpayee's government been at that time, it would have straightaway made India developed Nation is nothing but a sham. I urge you to think with a free mind, you will realize this surely.
Common man has lost faith in politics and politicians, there isn't actually a qualification criteria for entering politics.Only those who have muscle power and money magic can hope to win elections. For a middle income group person like myself, it has become a standard assumption that all politicians are corrupt without barrings and they are good for nothing as far as nation building is concerned.
If we can call ourselves literate intellectuals, then we shall have the ability to distinguish between what's right and what's wrong.Nehru and Indira as well as Rajiv and for that matter even Narasimha Rao Governments have many constructive contributions like Mr. Vajpayee's Government, but some people(on this MB too) are hell bent on deglorifying all and sundry but their own people.
Congress governments in the past have committed mistakes, no doubt, but they were humans like me and you and all. Its not fair to say that they were all wrong and present government is all roses. If we can call ourselves literate intellectuals, then we shall have the ability to distinguish between what's right and what's wrong.Nehru and Indira as well as Rajiv and for that matter even Narasimha Rao Governments have many constructive contributions like Mr. Vajpayee's Government, but some people(on this MB too) are hell bent on deglorifying all and sundry but their own people.
Yes,I too am sure Supreme Court is powerful enough to safeguard common man's rights. But here again i feel you are getting a bit unrealistic. Don't take it personal, but don't the courts too have limitations. Afterall, court will ask us that aren't these the same leaders whom we only select? Then the proceedings in Judicial cases in India move at snail's pace and we all know that justice delayed is almost justice denied, so what's the way out?
I wish you all the best in your endeavour, i will surely be among the first ones to accompany you in this regard.
Where do you live friend?I live in Haryana and i can't trace one politician in any party without criminal record here.Tell me, what shall encourage me to go and vote?Whenever i feel like voting, the thought that comes in my mind is that these very people whom i am contributing to elect are going to loot public money, so waht shall i be doing in such a case?
How do you exactly propose to bring about such changes?
We had many challenges, true, we didn't become successful enough in tackling them but saying that had Mr. Vajpayee's government been at that time, it would have straightaway made India developed Nation is nothing but a sham. I urge you to think with a free mind, you will realize this surely.
Probably you won't agree with me, but i belive that when India became independent, the infrastructure in virtually any field was non existent, besides that the north and eastern India was sufferring from history's most terrible riots.We didn't have enough foodgrains in stock to feed our people, lawlessness and black marketing was rampant.Nehru's government with its 5 year plans slowly and gradually managed to improve the situation, true, Nehru was wrong in overdoing with socialism, but the whole world then was under influence of communism due to soviet Union's newly acquired super power status and its victory over nazis, at least Nehru was successful in preventing India from making itself a satellite of USSR, as Pakistan under Liyaqat Ali Khan made itself for America. We had many challenges, true, we didn't become successful enough in tackling them but saying that had Mr. Vajpayee's government been at that time, it would have straightaway made India developed Nation is nothing but a sham. I urge you to think with a free mind, you will realize this surely.
Afterall, court will ask us that aren't these the same leaders whom we only select? Then the proceedings in Judicial cases in India move at snail's pace and we all know that justice delayed is almost justice denied, so what's the way out?
What nonsense you are writing..?
How long will ask this same question? Its boring...
Mr. Redindian! Where is your Favourite Slogan! Nowadays don't you use it? Hand Modi & Bal..
And the another reason may be HE is an NDTV guy! Atleast this NDTV may delete his ID with messages. NDTV is BLIND, DEAF and DUMB always...
No. I won't accept that amitmehra's ID is hacked. Why don't AMITMEHRA only did this? He may want to the No.1 Position of TOP SURFER list, Isn't it?
Not only in Congress!
HINDUTVA is not YOURS! And Not Mine also! That is COMMON! Whoever may Write about HINDUTVA!
Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'.
Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods.
The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods.
The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even be plain eco-geographical right-assertion bids ! ] - if looked at dispassionately might very well convince one -that they have been the instances of a required ' resistential or a 'defensive' necessity to check a subtle but a steady ideological overtures by the non-Hindu/or non-Hindic eco-political powers.
This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods.
Re-embracement of hinditva is a step in the right direction by BJP, only it shall further nderstand that introspection in a serious manner is needed and it can't take place in the comforts of any 7-star hotel. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even be plain eco-geographical right-assertion bids ! ] - if looked at dispassionately might very well convince one -that they have been the instances of a required ' resistential or a 'defensive' necessity to check a subtle but a steady ideological overtures by the non-Hindu/or non-Hindic eco-political powers. Hope your question is answered in some way at least !
(source: Was attack on US missionary a case of mistaken identity? - dailypioneer.com). It is high time that the media and government gave it a serious thought and did something about it. src=http://w
A steady ideological overtures by the non-Hindu/or non-Hindic eco-political powers. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods.
BJP's rise was associated with the fact that it propagated the cause of Hindutva, thereby giving a ray of hope to suffering Hindu majority which had been victimised long by Congress style pseudo secularism and Communist treachery.
But subsequently, what we have witnessed is that "congressification" of BJP took place slowly and gradually, and as power does to them all, they were corrupted too.
Re-embracement of hinditva is a step in the right direction by BJP, only it shall further nderstand that introspection in a serious manner is needed and it can't take place in the comforts of any 7-star hotel. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even be plain eco-geographical right-assertion bids ! ] - if looked at dispassionately might very well convince one -that they have been the instances of a required ' resisten
The real story behind the attack on US Missionary Joseph Cooper, who was injured and operated upon, is somewhat different from what was reported.
You are spot on here..BJP's rise was associated with the fact that it propagated the cause of Hindutva, thereby giving a ray of hope to suffering Hindu majority which had been victimised long by Congress style pseudo secularism and Communist treachery.
But subsequently, what we have witnessed is that "congressification" of BJP took place slowly and gradually, and as power does to them all, they were corrupted too.
Re-embracement of hinditva is a step in the right direction by BJP, only it shall further nderstand that introspection in a serious manner is needed and it can't take place in the comforts of any 7-star hotel. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even<
Hope your question is answered in some way at least ! (source: Was attack on US missionary a case of mistaken identity? - dailypioneer.com). It is high time that the media and government gave it a serious thought and did something about it. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even be plain eco-geographical right-assertion bids ! ] - if looked at dispassionately might very well convince one -that they have been the instances of a required ' resistential or a 'defensive' necessity to check a subtle but a steady ideological overtures by the non-Hindu/or non-Hindic eco-political powers.
The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even be plain eco-geographical right-assertion bids ! ] - if looked at dispassionately might very well convince one -that they have been the instances of a required ' resistential or a 'defensive' necessity to check a subtle but a steady ideological overtures by the non-Hindu/or non-Hindic eco-political powers. Hope your question is answered in some way at least !
(source: Was attack on US missionary a case of mistaken identity? - dailypioneer.com). It is high time that the media and government gave it a serious thought and did something about it.
But subsequently, what we have witnessed is that "congressification" of BJP took place slowly and gradually, and as power does to them all, they were corrupted too. BJP's rise was associated with the fact that it propagated the cause of Hindutva, thereby giving a ray of hope to suffering Hindu majority which had been victimised long by Congress style pseudo secularism and Communist treachery.
Re-embracement of hinditva is a step in the right direction by BJP, only it shall further nderstand that introspection in a serious manner is needed and it can't take place in the comforts of any 7-star hotel. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'in the name of RSS perhaps and not so much by it' and even that perhaps by some Hindutvaites in 'desperation/ hurry or they could even be plain eco-geographical right-assertion bids ! ] - if looked at dispassionately might very well convince one -that they have been the instances of a required ' resistenti
Brutal killings like this have happened in this isolated region even in the past. It is just that they went unnoticed and unreported. The real story behind the attack on US Missionary Joseph Cooper, who was injured and operated upon, is somewhat different from what was reported.
You are spot on here..BJP's rise was associated with the fact that it propagated the cause of Hindutva, thereby giving a ray of hope to suffering Hindu majority which had been victimised long by Congress style pseudo secularism and Communist treachery.
But subsequently, what we have witnessed is that "congressification" of BJP took place slowly and gradually, and as power does to them all, they were corrupted too.
Re-embracement of hinditva is a step in the right direction by BJP, only it shall further nderstand that introspection in a serious manner is needed and it can't take place in the comforts of any 7-star hotel. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'i
Brutal killings like this have happened in this isolated region even in the past. It is just that they went unnoticed and unreported. The real story behind the attack on US Missionary Joseph Cooper, who was injured and operated upon, is somewhat different from what was reported.
You are spot on here..BJP's rise was associated with the fact that it propagated the cause of Hindutva, thereby giving a ray of hope to suffering Hindu majority which had been victimised long by Congress style pseudo secularism and Communist treachery.
But subsequently, what we have witnessed is that "congressification" of BJP took place slowly and gradually, and as power does to them all, they were corrupted too.
Re-embracement of hinditva is a step in the right direction by BJP, only it shall further nderstand that introspection in a serious manner is needed and it can't take place in the comforts of any 7-star hotel. The attack was made by the relatives of a Dalit woman Sali who was raped by one Benson Sam and his close relatives some months back at a Bible college at Sreekaryam, some 10 km from here. Unable to bear the pressure at Sreekaryam, Benson Sam has come here at Kilimanoor and the attack was actually meant on him. The Missionary however bore the brunt of the attack. The areas in and around south Kerala are a hub of missionary activities and some eight months ago another foreign missionary was attacked by the locals for allegedly passing derogatory remarks about Lord Ayyappa. As for Joseph Cooper, according to the local people who inhabit areas in and around this dalit hamlet at Kilimanoor, he was reported to have talked of Lord Krishna as the one who had spread AIDS. This may have provoked the locals against Cooper. This dalit colony is highly religious. Just after their Bhajans and other religious ceremonies, the Missionaries had allegedly made derogatory remarks against the Gods that the locals worship, which might be another reason for the attack on the missionary. The State Organising secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Kummanam Rajashekharan, while talking to this correspondent over phone said that "We demand the arrest of the American Missionary.The NDA's outrage over tribal leader Shibu Soren's refusal to surrender in a 29-year-old case smacks of hypocrisy. The revival of an arrest warrant issued in 1986 by the BJP-led government in Jharkhand amounts to political vendetta. He is here on a visitor Visa. How can he indulge in religious preaching?" Yes - I think BJP should re-popularise the Hindutva political stance as it definitely purports a much higher degree of national-political sense and sensibilities than either the 'secularism' of the Congress or the communism of the Left. Hindutva' - as I have understood the RSS/BJP definition of the same is -- 'an avowed assertion of the Indian nation in its pre-British and pre-Muslim rule which was then referred to locally as 'Bharata khanda' and as 'Hindostaan' or "Hindoostaan' by the earliest know alien - travellers/scholars who happened to get to know the country'. Etymologically speaking the term Hind - Hindustaan is said to have got derived by reference to the ancient Indian river 'Sindhu'.
And - "Hindutva" as the advocated National ideology encompases the entire gamut of the cultural composite of the Indian Nation - in terms of its Natural bourndaries - Natural Resources and equally importantly its time-tested eco-political socio-economic and religio-cultural knowledge base which unfortunately has got quite thoroughly misunderstood or at times wantonly distorted firstly - by the alien rulers - the Muslims and the British and now by a good majority of the Indian population itself.
So Hinutva can be taken to mean an avowed effort towards a 'back to the basics' - not by the mode of any 'political imposition' but by way of dispassionate and thoroughly honest means and methods. And - the 'physical force' -sanctioned by the RSS - barring a few individual aberrations[ and that 'i
When Police or Military make corrective actions to protect innocents, then people begin to talk of human rights! it seems that only terrorists and bad characters only have human rights! No body bothers when people make offensive act like kidnapping, terrorism, rioting etc.
Tainted Ministers not only in Congress...!
I agree was a bit too much...NDA government should have instead gone soft on privatisation and should have taken a strong stand on Gujrat that they didn't do and paid dearly. Who is responsible for making Vajpayee's image what you call "larger than life"?Did Atalji himself go to the media for asking them for transforming his image?And how can you glorify Nehru, when we all know without hinderances that Nehru's policies were responsible for most of the modern day evils we are facing, namely Kashmir, Muslim appeasement, red tapism, an inept administration infested with corruption, no uniform civil code, terrorism, population explosion etc etc...
Did Atalji himself go to the media for asking them for transforming his image?And how can you glorify Nehru, when we all know without hinderances that Nehru's policies were responsible for most of the modern day evils we are facing, namely Kashmir, Muslim appeasement, red tapism, an inept administration infested with corruption, no uniform civil code, terrorism, population explosion etc etc... Who is responsible for making Vajpayee's image what you call "larger than life"?
That doesn't change the reality that what they gave us was the finest Government India had seen since independence...be it upto your liking or not. India shining , I agree was a bit too much...NDA government should have instead gone soft on privatisation and should have taken a strong stand on Gujrat that they didn't do and paid dearly. Who is responsible for making Vajpayee's image what you call "larger than life"?Did Atalji himself go to the media for asking them for transforming his image?And how can you glorify Nehru, when we all know without hinderances that Nehru's policies were responsible for most of the modern day evils we are facing, namely Kashmir, Muslim appeasement, red tapism, an inept administration infested with corruption, no uniform civil code, terrorism, population explosion etc etc...
That doesn't change the reality that what they gave us was the finest Government India had seen since independence...be it upto your liking or not. India shining , I agree was a bit too much...NDA government should have instead gone soft on privatisation and should have taken a strong stand on Gujrat that they didn't do and paid dearly. Who is responsible for making Vajpayee's image what you call "larger than life"?Did Atalji himself go to the media for asking them for transforming his image?And how can you glorify Nehru, when we all know without hinderances that Nehru's policies were responsible for most of the modern day evils we are facing, namely Kashmir, Muslim appeasement, red tapism, an inept administration infested with corruption, no uniform civil code, terrorism, population explosion etc etc...
Just using BOLD letters is not the answer. Teacher will give u one BIG zero in the exam..
your opinion does not count in this case.. give one logic for treating cousin sisters as sisters..
If u don't like it, u can ignore it and return to those messages which r full of abusive language. U may find them meaningful. The members will decide it is meaningless or meaningfull.
Further, there r lots of people who didn't ever vote for Congress but that doesn't mean they voted BJP. I never asked if your parents voted for Congress or not. What I asked was it is better to know properly from ur parents and grand parents if History was tampered rather than depending on others for it.
Forget about freedom struggle. Let say, in the post indepence period. rss leaders were part of congress which was not a part but a platform 2 fight collectively.What RSS has contributed for the developement of post independence india except creating hatred and communal tensons among peace loving citizens of India?
The present congress has no relation 2 that platform. What RSS has contributed for the developement of post independence india except creating hatred and communal tensons among peace loving citizens of India? Forget about freedom struggle. Let say, in the post indepence period.
rss leaders were part of congress which was not a part but a platform 2 fight collectively.
The multi-crore campaign appeared to have dazzled us into believing that the NDA had found its winning ticket, that the country was now in fifth gear, and that everyone should “feel good. The political spin doctors may have cast Atalji in a larger-than-life image as a modern-day Nehru, but what the voters are really questioning is the performance of individual members of parliament. But Hindu card , Stains,Gujarat , tehelka , Coffins , teaching Karva vrat to sonia.....
Since the start of the year, the India Shining campaign had screamed at us from every hoarding and television channel. The multi-crore campaign appeared to have dazzled us into believing that the NDA had found its winning ticket, that the country was now in fifth gear, and that everyone should “feel good. The political spin doctors may have cast Atalji in a larger-than-life image as a modern-day Nehru, but what the voters are really questioning is the performance of individual members of parliament. But Hindu card , Stains,Gujarat , tehelka , Coffins , teaching Karva vrat to sonia.....
The political spin doctors may have cast Atalji in a larger-than-life image as a modern-day Nehru, but what the voters are really questioning is the performance of individual members of parliament. But Hindu card , Stains,Gujarat , tehelka , Coffins , teaching Karva vrat to sonia.....
so we can surely hope for the bouceback of BJP in the coming LS election...! the real reason for BJP's lose this election...! well more over the ppl of india always want change in anything anti incumbency factor always dominate indian democracy.! well vajpayee is a great leader. well some of his colleges were (are....!!!)
The websites showed marrying in blood relation is not allowedThat is all. My legs keep shaking.
My speech is slow. Uske uppar hara. What a big blow. I made India shine. . You say marrying cousin sister is OK, we say its sin. By privatizing Mine. Sold profit making mills. & had hidden arm deals. The people threw me out. Now how to turn around? The Sangh is against me.We chased you away and we do not run away. Yeh uchit baat nahin. nahin nahin.
I failed to see what was so amusing in that. In that case Adam and Eve shudnt have existed too rite? Take your perverted mind and go live in Pakistan where u will find company in your thoughts. If your blood relation to the person you are marrying is a proven fact, then u do have common ancestors, which means u shudnt marry. The relation is that u have basically failed to understand anything about India or its heritage.
If your blood relation to the person you are marrying is a proven fact, then u do have common ancestors, which means u shudnt marry. The relation is that u have basically failed to understand anything about India or its heritage. I failed to see what was so amusing in that. In that case Adam and Eve shudnt have existed too rite? Take your perverted mind and go live in Pakistan where u will find company in your thoughts.
Exactely! Otherwise Why BJP is Unnessarily Guarding MODI? SANGH's Pressure only the Exact Reason.
Kumbakonam Mishap Tragedy is FEROCIOUS!!!
CONGRATULATIONS for CROSSING ME..
Musharraf is also foreigner, if tomorrow you want to bring him to India and start offering him the PM's chair, what do you think, we will support you? Fool's paradise. Even if your theory of "Great Sacrifice" by sonia is considered to be true, i will still prefer an Indian to a foreigner as a PM, wanna know the reason? I have self respect like all of those who oppose Sonia as PM.
Let us all not forget that the Congress was started by an FOREIGNER (A H Hume) and won the freedom..... I am sure that had it been an Indian in her position, he/she would not have let it go.... even it there is a danger of Civil war in the country.... For all those who opposed her..... Think about it... Could you be in her Shoes and Do It? NO NO NO NO we are INDIANS .... Only a FOREIGNER can do it .....
Not He only.. Another Filthy Dirty Pig called CHRKVSRAO also here. He is also a No.1 Top surfer..
Oh! Are you also following REDINDIAN for 1/2 chaddi..
I want to get 1/2 chaddi..
NDTV is DEAF and also BLIND and as well as DUMB...
Lallu jee is the man; All other people are GOD! ok!
What do you want to tell? You are the BEST Stupid in this WORLD! Right!!!
I agree with your points. Hundreds of Biharis are dying due to natural calamities like flood etc., But LALOO, RABRI and thirs children are in LIVE. If any one of those died only LALOO get back to rhis problem, otherwise NO.
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What is mean by Chaddi and KATORA??
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
"That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
Her husband Joseph, being a righteous man and unwilling to expose her to public disgrace, planned to dismiss her quietly. But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
When His mother, Mary, had been engaged to Joseph, but before they lived together, she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. Her husband Joseph, being a righteous man and unwilling to expose her to public disgrace, planned to dismiss her quietly. But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
We know from Matthew 1: 18-25, "Now the birth of Jesus the Messiah took place in this way. When His mother, Mary, had been engaged to Joseph, but before they lived together, she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. Her husband Joseph, being a righteous man and unwilling to expose her to public disgrace, planned to dismiss her quietly. But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
A Book by Patrick Gallivan, Chapter Six, Book Named HE HAS COME - THE LORD SATHYA SAI BABA – III, he says as follows:-
There are many similarities between the lives of Jesus and Sathya Sai Baba. One could begin with the manner of conception of both Avatars.
We know from Matthew 1: 18-25, "Now the birth of Jesus the Messiah took place in this way. When His mother, Mary, had been engaged to Joseph, but before they lived together, she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. Her husband Joseph, being a righteous man and unwilling to expose her to public disgrace, planned to dismiss her quietly. But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life. src=http://www.
A Book by Patrick Gallivan, Chapter Six, Book Named HE HAS COME - THE LORD SATHYA SAI BABA – III, he says as follows:-
There are many similarities between the lives of Jesus and Sathya Sai Baba. One could begin with the manner of conception of both Avatars.
We know from Matthew 1: 18-25, "Now the birth of Jesus the Messiah took place in this way. When His mother, Mary, had been engaged to Joseph, but before they lived together, she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. Her husband Joseph, being a righteous man and unwilling to expose her to public disgrace, planned to dismiss her quietly. But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life. src=http://www.
She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
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There are many similarities between the lives of Jesus and Sathya Sai Baba. One could begin with the manner of conception of both Avatars.
We know from Matthew 1: 18-25, "Now the birth of Jesus the Messiah took place in this way. When His mother, Mary, had been engaged to Joseph, but before they lived together, she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. Her husband Joseph, being a righteous man and unwilling to expose her to public disgrace, planned to dismiss her quietly. But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in her is from the Holy spirit. She will bear a son, and you are to name Him Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.'All this took place to fulfil what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 'Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name Him Emmanuel,' which means, 'God is with us.'
When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife, but had no marital relations with her until she had borne a son; and he named Him Jesus."
Sathya Sai Baba was asked the circumstances of His birth, and He turned to His mother, Eswaramma, who was present, and suggested the questioner ask her. She told the questioner, a pundit named Rama Sarma, that she dreamed of Sathyanarayana Deva (an angel of God) and he cautioned her that she should not be frightened if something happens to her through the Will of God. "That morning, when I was at the well drawing water, a big ball of blue light came rolling towards me and I fainted and fell, I felt it glide into me." Baba turned to the questioner with a smile. "There, you have the answer! I was not begotten. It was Pravesa, not Prasava." This was the formless Divine Principal taking on its mantle of a physical human body.
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings are identical to those of Jesus Christ. While Jesus's teachings were set down and transcribed over a number of years, Baba's teachings are delivered and immediately published in the official monthly magazine Sanathana Sarathi. Baba's discourses are directed mainly to the students in His colleges, who will be the leaders of the nation of India in the years to come. He said, pointing to the first group of boys being enrolled, "These boys will grow into strong stalwart pillars of Sanathana Dharma; they will be the guides and leaders of this land in the days to come, to save it from vain follies and wild passions. You may say they are only twenty in number now, but a vast country is administered by a Cabinet of twenty Ministers, this band of students will be ample, for the work I have in view."
His standards are high and discipline paramount in His schools and colleges, and it is a privilege for any student to attend them. He treats both the girl students and the boys, as jewels, to be polished and valued, and they return His trust and love by succeeding in the many fields of endeavour they choose to pursue in their worldly careers. Baba has said, "The purpose of education is to learn how to live, not how to make a living." Also, "The end of wisdom is freedom. The end of culture is perfection. The end of education is character. The end of knowledge is Love."
Sai Baba has said, "Sathya (Truth), Dharma (Righteousness), Shanti (Peace) and Prema (Love), are the four most important requirements for a man's progress. The combination of these is Love. It is through this Love that one can ride over any bridge, travelling smoothly in this world. This Love should be Spiritual Love."
At this juncture I feel it is important to introduce The Code of Conduct and the Ten Principles which Sathya Sai Baba stresses as the means of attaining a spiritual and balanced life.
And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
"There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
They have left behind desperate families who have tried everything to trace their dear ones, but to no avail. Now, 100 relatives of those missing will gather in Srinagar on Wednesday -- the International Day of Disappeared Persons -- to tell the world their tale of misery. The relatives have drawn up a list of those who have disappeared since 1989. Consider these: * Zahoor Ahmed Sofi. Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
In the last 11 years, over 2000 people, between the ages of 10 and 70, have disappeared from the Kashmir Valley after they were allegedly picked up by the security forces. They have left behind desperate families who have tried everything to trace their dear ones, but to no avail. Now, 100 relatives of those missing will gather in Srinagar on Wednesday -- the International Day of Disappeared Persons -- to tell the world their tale of misery. The relatives have drawn up a list of those who have disappeared since 1989. Consider these: * Zahoor Ahmed Sofi. Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
`The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
The relatives have drawn up a list of those who have disappeared since 1989. Consider these: * Zahoor Ahmed Sofi. Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
Now, 100 relatives of those missing will gather in Srinagar on Wednesday -- the International Day of Disappeared Persons -- to tell the world their tale of misery. The relatives have drawn up a list of those who have disappeared since 1989. Consider these: * Zahoor Ahmed Sofi. Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
In the last 11 years, over 2000 people, between the ages of 10 and 70, have disappeared from the Kashmir Valley after they were allegedly picked up by the security forces. They have left behind desperate families who have tried everything to trace their dear ones, but to no avail. Now, 100 relatives of those missing will gather in Srinagar on Wednesday -- the International Day of Disappeared Persons -- to tell the world their tale of misery. The relatives have drawn up a list of those who have disappeared since 1989. Consider these: * Zahoor Ahmed Sofi. Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
In the last 11 years, over 2000 people, between the ages of 10 and 70, have disappeared from the Kashmir Valley after they were allegedly picked up by the security forces. They have left behind desperate families who have tried everything to trace their dear ones, but to no avail. Now, 100 relatives of those missing will gather in Srinagar on Wednesday -- the International Day of Disappeared Persons -- to tell the world their tale of misery. The relatives have drawn up a list of those who have disappeared since 1989. Consider these: * Zahoor Ahmed Sofi. Arrested on August 8, 1994, by 15th Battalion, BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC no.20/99. Still missing. * Mohammed Rafiq Bhatt. Arrested on August 19, 1992, by BSF. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No.19/99. Still missing. * Mushtaq Ahmed Khan. Arrested on midnight April 13/14, 1997, by 20th Grenade Army C/O 56 APO. Petition filed under 491-CrPC No. 15/99. Still missing. These and many more cases will be discussed at the meeting, organised by the Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP). `The APDP, formed in 1994 by relatives of the missing people who met in various courts while trying to file and follow up habeas corpus petitions, comprises mainly poor, uneducated, women who stepped out of their kitchen for the first time in their lives, in search of their missing family members. They went to security officials, police stations, politicians, courts and prisons in different parts of the country, with a photograph of their sons, fathers and husbands,'' said Parvez Imroz, human rights activist and APDP spokesperson.
And what did they end up with? Official apathy, according to Imroz who points out that the state government does not acknowledge the phenomenon of disappearances. ``The elected government blamed the previous governments for them and initiated a process in 1996, of inviting applications with details about the missing people from their relatives. People reacted immediately and submitted the details. But nothing has happened ever since,'' he said. The APDP wants Amnesty International, which has already opened an action file on it, to be allowed to investigate the cases of disappearances in the Valley. "There is a method in these disappearances,'' says Imroz. According to him: * The law enforcing agencies arrest people during raids, routine patrolling, search operations. * Then the relatives of the detainees, approach the security officials who usually assure them their relatives will be released shortly. That never happens. * After a few visits the relatives are told that the people they are looking for were not arrested. * In desperation, they approach other security officials and move applications to civil authorities like the district magistrate, divisional commissioners and even political leaders, who seem equally helpless.
* The local police authorities almost never file an FIR against the security forces. ``Meanwhile, lakhs are spent in running from pillar to post - travelling from one interrogation centre to the other - in search of the detenues,'' adds Imroz. But the wait still continues. The fall-out of these disappearances is mostly economic since it is the earning member who goes missing, leaving behind `half-widows' and children who are sooner than later, deserted by their in-laws.
But more corrosive is the psychological impact - constant agony and trans-generational trauma. ``After this continues for some time, they develop into physiological and psychological disorders. And these people cease to live normal lives'', according to Amit Basu, psychiatrist who will be helping the organisation to set up trauma centres in the state.
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It is the tendency of Tamil People to Vote DMK once and AIADMK next time. Almost all Parliment elections in Tamilnadu are going in the same way. Even in assembly Elections also, How many seats the DMK has got.
Whole India is knowing , how Karunanidhi behaved with Jayalalitha after becoming Chief Minister and vice-versa. When Karunanidhi was arrogant with Jaya, all sympathy went with her. It is the chance of Karunanidhi to get the Sympathy after the arrogantness of Jayalalitha.
Both DMK and AIADMK leaders should stop the third rated politics where they are taking revenge on each other after coming to Power. Whole India is knowing , how Karunanidhi behaved with Jayalalitha after becoming Chief Minister and vice-versa. When Karunanidhi was arrogant with Jaya, all sympathy went with her. It is the chance of Karunanidhi to get the Sympathy after the arrogantness of Jayalalitha.
It is the tendency of Tamil People to Vote DMK once and AIADMK next time. Almost all Parliment elections in Tamilnadu are going in the same way. Even in assembly Elections also, How many seats the DMK has got.
Every lady has this motherly instict to punish the errant child. That is why they appear to be dictators. Indira imposed emergency because she felt that JP's call to the army to disobey meant anarchy. If Nehru were alive JP would not have done this. Even if he did, Nehru would have simply said "nonsensense " and would have drafted a policy statement to criticise USA regarding its action against Vietnam.If Jaya learns to be patient and if she accepts that criticism against her is the price she has to pay for her chief ministership and if she does not give the impression that she is vindictive to send to jail any person who has the audacity to pass judgement on her actions, then she will be safe. Who knows she may even become the PM one day!
Cho Ramasamy , an intelligent political analyst ,is not liked by her because he did not approve all her ideas. In fact there is a defamation case against his magazine!When ladies assume power, they treat others as small kids to be disciplined. Every lady has this motherly instict to punish the errant child. That is why they appear to be dictators. Indira imposed emergency because she felt that JP's call to the army to disobey meant anarchy. If Nehru were alive JP would not have done this. Even if he did, Nehru would have simply said "nonsensense " and would have drafted a policy statement to criticise USA regarding its action against Vietnam.If Jaya learns to be patient and if she accepts that criticism against her is the price she has to pay for her chief ministership and if she does not give the impression that she is vindictive to send to jail any person who has the audacity to pass judgement on her actions, then she will be safe. Who knows she may even become the PM one day!
It is the tendency of Tamil People to Vote DMK once and AIADMK next time. Almost all Parliment elections in Tamilnadu are going in the same way. Even in assembly Elections also, How many seats the DMK has got. Both DMK and AIADMK leaders should stop the third rated politics where they are taking revenge on each other after coming to Power. Whole India is knowing , how Karunanidhi behaved with Jayalalitha after becoming Chief Minister and vice-versa. When Karunanidhi was arrogant with Jaya, all sympathy went with her. It is the chance of Karunanidhi to get the Sympathy after the arrogantness of Jayalalitha.
Remember she had achieved something which even the great leader K.Kamaraj and more popular M.G.R. could not.She had made DMK bite the dust with only Karunanidhi getting elected with a slender majority and all other DMK candidates losing .
Jaya cannot be underestimated.In fact this general election had saved her. Now she knows that she has to work hard to find out why she could not get even a single seat.
Even if he did, Nehru would have simply said "nonsensense " and would have drafted a policy statement to criticise USA regarding its action against Vietnam.If Jaya learns to be patient and if she accepts that criticism against her is the price she has to pay for her chief ministership and if she does not give the impression that she is vindictive to send to jail any person who has the audacity to pass judgement on her actions, then she will be safe. Who knows she may even become the PM one day!
Tamilnadu is having very bad time to have these type of MLAs in assembly, which had marvelous polticians like Kamaraj & Kakkan once upon a time For this extremely Egoistic woman Jaya, This Punishment is not enough
Her weak point is that she is hypersensitive to criticism and takes to heart.She has to ignore the critics or should not read those criticisms.
Unfortunately for her there is no leader alive to day of the stature of Rajaji or Kamaraj to advise her. She is alone.
PanneerSelvam and Ponnaiyan are the slaves to Jayalaitha and no way worried about people welfare. Tamilnadu is having very bad time to have these type of MLAs in assembly, which had marvelous polticians like Kamaraj & Kakkan once upon a time For this extremely Egoistic woman Jaya, This Punishment is not enough
All ADMK MLAs in legislative assembly dont know anything other than clapping in benches for each and every word of Jaya.
There is no democracy in ADMK party. I dont know whether anybody other than Jayalalitha can even talk in Party General Council Meeting.
All ADMK MLAs in legislative assembly dont know anything other than clapping in benches for each and every word of Jaya.
Because of this habit only, She didn't welcomed Rajinikanth support also. Because if she welcomed it and if she won, then the credit will go to rajinikanth. she wants all credit to be baged by her only.
Jayalalitha has been defeated for her Head weight and Trying to maintain her domination in each and every part of TN
One of the main bad and shameful habit of jayalalitha is changing ministers, IPS and IAS officers as if she is changing saree or chappal. If IAS officers and ministers are always putting their whole effort to save their post, how can they think for People's Improvement?
Even Jayalalitha dont like any own ADMK party men getting more famous, If she found anybody like that she will stop his growth by removing him from major post. In that way only Thirunavukarar, RM veerappan and all removed from party
This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
She is a human being and she is not God. I think you are an educated idiot. This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
People like you mislead them instead of educating them. She is a human being and she is not God. I think you are an educated idiot. This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
People like you mislead them instead of educating them. She is a human being and she is not God. I think you are an educated idiot. This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
Having expressed their anger the people will vote for Jaya again.
She is a human being and she is not God. I think you are an educated idiot. This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
Having expressed their anger the people will vote for Jaya again. TN people recognise ADMK alone as a political party.The votes DMK gets are only anti Jaya votes.
Thats why our country is going down to dogs even after more than 50 years of independence our people dont know their basic rights and they are in utter poverty. People like you mislead them instead of educating them. She is a human being and she is not God. I think you are an educated idiot. This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
Thats why our country is going down to dogs even after more than 50 years of independence our people dont know their basic rights and they are in utter poverty. People like you mislead them instead of educating them. She is a human being and she is not God. I think you are an educated idiot. This is what all the people in our country are doing. Without any reasoning capacity.
If Sonia want to become tamil CM act on movies. Then she'll be called AMMA and 'll be elected the CM. For Thamilians movies are the most important part of their life.They could live without food and water but not without movies.
She did the right thing by bringing about anti-conversion law. She eradicated lotteries which many of them used to fool the public and swindle money. To some extent she was harsh towards the govt. staff; but these govt officials need to understand their duty at some point of time. Though the treatment was harsh, it was very effective.
Jayalalithaa's activities are to some extent right. She was the first to make rain water harvesting compulsory .
Jayalalithaa's activities are to some extent right. She was the first to make rain water harvesting compulsory .
You did believe that the RSS are terrorists which they are. And now you have come upwith something better. Before that one more fool from your group has so upset your applecart with his posts that anyone who is against you is either a muslim.
Who else but politicians will be there in the lok sabha and rajya sabha?The question is ,are these worthies politicians or time servers like NAJMA who has bared her true mental make up by defecting to BJP just for a cosy life that she enjoyed all these years.
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Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
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Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
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Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
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Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
Better solve this, before whole world in engulf in terror, cos of ur baised policies. The whole world is dangerous place after you went to eradicate Axis of Evil. All you need to do is put the middle east policy of USA in favor of both parties and come up with solution.
I don't know what happened to me?? Becuase NDTV removed my id with all messages!! WHY they did like this?? This is NDTV's work or any hooligan's work! I don't know!!
MOVIES
Amitabh is an EVERGREEN SUPERSTAR..
The hindi movie making genre has once again shown how impoverished it is when it comes to the originality of ideas. Remember the Bhagat Singh imbroglio that happened a couple of years back. And here we are, seeing three films released almost at same time, and taking "inspiration" from the same hollywood movie, which I am told is named "Unfaithful". On the safe premise that the half dozen Bhagat Singh movies were actually not indication of some rising nationalistic sentiments in the industry, this time also we can safely conclude that its just the matter of opportunities and hence i dont presume it to be a "new trend", though we may call it a very short timed fad at most.
respectebility/acceptence by society and above all reward tend to suggest that there is nothing wrong in having extra-martial affairs. dharmendra/vinod khanna who had multi-wives/lives went on to become super-stars oliticians/minister etc. even hemamalini, 2nd wife of dharmendra got respectebility with BJP ticket. I feel silver screen is showing somewhat that.
The topic 'Tainted Ministers' seems to have been highjacked by 'Muslim apeasement in India'.
Number of Hindus who oppose Bal Thakrey for behaving in this manner will be more than the number of Muslims like you. You do not appreciate these Hindus, but start abusing the entire Hindu society and their religion. By doing so you only loose support of these Hindus.
Many things being done in Pakistan by its military dictatorship are tolerated by Muslims. But same thing if happens in India every body starts protesting.
Don't bother about such people. Keep it up. Let us make this board a decent place for decent debate. Waiting for another nice post from you.
Do you know that your forefathers were Hindus, who converted to Islam to save them from torture by islamic rulers. In a sense all these abuses are directed at your forefathers. And such behaviour of few Muslims like you is giving a bad name to entire Muslim community.
You have again come with changed ID. Stop abusing your forefathers and get away from this board.Don't you have any self respect?
All right thinking board users are requested to join 'Clean the board movement'. I have sent feedback about this insane user dawood-ibrahim_aaya, to take action against him. All other users should also send feedback and impress upon NDTV that it is NDTV's responsibility to protect their board from such insane people. Hindu Gods are being abused on their board. Till what time Hindus will tolerate this?
May I join the argument? do you mean that you have some friends in army who are saying that why should they die for India? If it is true then it is a shocking news. It is further shocking that you find 100% truth in their statement. I would say that they are a security threat to this country. I agree with you that life is peace and happiness. But it can not be the sole purpose of life. I ask you a question, life for what? Answer me then we will move ahead with our discussion.
Please don't generalise the issue on Hindu-Muslim lines. MB users posting multiple messages, dirty, filthy, offensive and abusive messages should be discouraged. Let us make it a board for decent and productive debate.
Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
I always thought that all people are ready to live and die for the country. But there are few like you and your friends who only want to live and not die for the country. I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
I am surprised and highly disappointed to read your post. You referred to some of your friends in the army. Were they approached or forced by someone to join the Army? Did they not know what Army is for? What were they expecting after joining the Army, a nine-to-five job at a peace station in AC rooms for their whole life with special perks? And please don't go off-the-track to movies, if your Army friends are real. I always thought that all people are ready to live and die for the country. But there are few like you and your friends who only want to live and not die for the country. I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
It is true that Muslims cry foul only in non-islamic countries. In Islamic countries they tolerate every cruelty and don't even raise a whimper. Many things being done in Pakistan by its military dictatorship are tolerated by Muslims. But same thing if happens in India every body starts protesting.
You are right anjun. I was really surprised to see such a post from sherry. sherry please answer and expose this imposter. Then we will ask NDTV to remove filthy posts of this pervert and to put a filter on his ID.
PMO will work at Vigyan Bhawan under elected CLP leader. Whatever has remained of PMO at South Block will function under PM nominated by elected CLP leader.
Did they not know what Army is for? What were they expecting after joining the Army, a nine-to-five job at a peace station in AC rooms for their whole life with special perks? And please don't go off-the-track to movies, if your Army friends are real. I always thought that all people are ready to live and die for the country. But there are few like you and your friends who only want to live and not die for the country. I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
Whether tainted minsters are a liability for congress, should be examined and answered by Congress. In a common man's opinion they are a liability for the nation.And it is not only liability, it is a matter of shame for and insult to the nation and its people. India's first nominated PM, Mr. Manmohan Singh says that a person is innocent till proven guilty. No Sir, it a matter of personal ethics and cleanliness of attitude and approach. It should not be treated as matter of law. Also some senior congress leaders say that BJP can not raise its fingers as their own leaders are tainted. It is a matter of national pride or shame, and it can not be decided by congress and BJP. What they think or do is guided by their political compulsions which are in most of cases against national interest. Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
rama_ramki you really have friends who are a threat to this country. If it is known to Army authorities then your friends will be in real danger. I do not want to do anything with you and your friends.
Such negative attitude is the cause of all problems. Why do you always look and bother for those Hindus who abuse Muslims? There are Hindus who do not abuse Muslims. Look for them and you will find that life has become more pleasant.
We cannot shun away from the truth. I personall I ma for a Uniform Civil Code.Just as a single country cannot have two diffenent flags it cannot and should not have differnt Civil Code.
I fully agree with you. All are equal. But there are people who think that if every citizin of India will be treated equal to every other citizen then their shops will close. They are surviving only on inequality. Such people are every where and in every political party or organization.To run their shops they divide people. It is wrong to blame one group or other for this.All are to be blamed. Not all Muslims, like one can say not all Hindus have heart.
We can never overcome these evils unless we identify them and atleast acknowledge that something can be done abt it.We cannot shun away from the truth. I personall I ma for a Uniform Civil Code.Just as a single country cannot have two diffenent flags it cannot and should not have differnt Civil Code.
May be you are right. I am not an expert on Islam. If there is an MB user who knows about the detailed teachings of Islam should come forward and educate us.
We have to realize that we cannot give oursevelves false pretenions ,every society has its set of evils whether west or east.We can never overcome these evils unless we identify them and atleast acknowledge that something can be done abt it.We cannot shun away from the truth. I personall I ma for a Uniform Civil Code.Just as a single country cannot have two diffenent flags it cannot and should not have differnt Civil Code.
I believe that man or women should not bend laws to suit there personal needs.This is a perfect example of bending the law in the name of religious conversions.
We have to realize that we cannot give oursevelves false pretenions ,every society has its set of evils whether west or east.We can never overcome these evils unless we identify them and atleast acknowledge that something can be done abt it.We cannot shun away from the truth. I personall I ma for a Uniform Civil Code.Just as a single country cannot have two diffenent flags it cannot and should not have differnt Civil Code.
PMO will work at Vigyan Bhawan under elected CLP leader. Whatever has remained of PMO at South Block will function under PM nominated by elected CLP leader.
Do you mean say that reservation is the gift of the great messiah Ambedkar to you. And as he faught with Brahmins to give you reservation no other person should take credit. I don't think Sunder or anybody is trying to take any credit for it. I for one is an admirer of Ambedkar but oppose reservation.I am sure that if Ambedkar was alive today he woould also have opposed resrvation the way it is being practiced now. Dr. Ambedkar was a true champion of dalit cause. He loved them. He wanted to do lot of things for them. But under no circumstances he wanted to expolit them like present day politicians are expoliting to serve their vested interests.
.I beg to differ from your point of view.I think the problem here is not about Ram or Rahim but rather more mundane..I am suprised that you being a woman are supporting this concept of a man having more than a single wife.I believe that man or women should not bend laws to suit there personal needs.This is a perfect example of bending the law in the name of religious conversions.
We have to realize that we cannot give oursevelves false pretenions ,every society has its set of evils whether west or east.We can never overcome these evils unless we identify them and atleast acknowledge that something can be done abt it.We cannot shun away from the truth. I personall I ma for a Uniform Civil Code.Just as a single country cannot have two diffenent flags it cannot and should not have differnt Civil Code.
Suppose highly talented Lalloo was not there would you still support tainted ministers in the cabinet ruled by one of the polished gem of the world?
There has to be distance of these stars with the present Political leaders. First of all they need to be quite matured to enter in prestigious Parliament.
Take for instace Dharmendra who was speaking the other day in Press Conference like speaking the dialogues of a Film with no courtsey. There has to be distance of these stars with the present Political leaders. First of all they need to be quite matured to enter in prestigious Parliament.
Hema and Dharam have been married for ages now, have kids out of the marriage and these facts are known to average Indians for as long now. Then why is there this furore now. I think we should keep these hollow morals and principles aside and talk straight about issues. Hypocrisy is certainly evident when people write on such issues.
It pains me to hear that the film stars of yesterdays who acclaimed fame during their prime time have coming to politics. I am sure this would have disillusioned to their fan members. I was not comfortable to have Vinod or for the sake of Shotgun to accept the cabinet post. This Government (NDA) has gone to such level to choose either film stars/TV stars (Tulsi) or cricketers like Sidhu to contest the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in order to have smmoth victory of NDA as they donot find suitable candidate on their own. I am also opposing to Govinda for contesting elections on the Congress ticket. It is high time the Election Commission should take a note on this and to see they enters only if they have some experince. Take for instace Dharmendra who was speaking the other day in Press Conference like speaking the dialogues of a Film with no courtsey. There has to be distance of these stars with the present Political leaders. First of all they need to be quite matured to enter in prestigious Parliament.
I am suprised that you being a woman are supporting this concept of a man having more than a single wife.I believe that man or women should not bend laws to suit there personal needs.This is a perfect example of bending the law in the name of religious conversions.
We have to realize that we cannot give oursevelves false pretenions ,every society has its set of evils whether west or east.We can never overcome these evils unless we identify them and atleast acknowledge that something can be done abt it.We cannot shun away from the truth. I personall I ma for a Uniform Civil Code.Just as a single country cannot have two diffenent flags it cannot and should not have differnt Civil Code.
However I think Dharmendra should have taken a divorce from his first wife instead of converting to Islam. congress is hitting below the belt. But so waht , BJP always does that
I am also opposing to Govinda for contesting elections on the Congress ticket. It is high time the Election Commission should take a note on this and to see they enters only if they have some experince. Take for instace Dharmendra who was speaking the other day in Press Conference like speaking the dialogues of a Film with no courtsey. There has to be distance of these stars with the present Political leaders. First of all they need to be quite matured to enter in prestigious Parliament.
I was not comfortable to have Vinod or for the sake of Shotgun to accept the cabinet post. This Government (NDA) has gone to such level to choose either film stars/TV stars (Tulsi) or cricketers like Sidhu to contest the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in order to have smmoth victory of NDA as they donot find suitable candidate on their own. I am also opposing to Govinda for contesting elections on the Congress ticket. It is high time the Election Commission should take a note on this and to see they enters only if they have some experince. Take for instace Dharmendra who was speaking the other day in Press Conference like speaking the dialogues of a Film with no courtsey. There has to be distance of these stars with the present Political leaders. First of all they need to be quite matured to enter in prestigious Parliament.
He has mastered politics long back itself, when he has married Hema Malini.Thus played his cards quite well since there is ambiguity in laws of religions. So, now making and taking of this topic in public makes him more popular. So, it is our duty to protect uniform civil rule.The religion is not above law. When you want a law, it should applied to all indians irrespective religion.
Past catches up with all, and so its Dharam's turn now !
it is plain dtupid to call it an affair. the whole world knew that they are married and have daughters. one of them is a star now.if ndtv has guts why donot you run a story on KARUNANIDHI who has got three wives--two of them living with him of course in different houses.tell me the name of one political leader who is honest in all respects. it is nothing but mud sligging by congressmen and being a true congress media ndtv is giving publicity to this.
the question is, why have laws, and if the norms set by lord rama is to be flouted than why errect his temple. Its no bodys case that karunanidhi is right and dharemendra wrong, both r wrong and should be exposed. we r not talking religion but laws, can a law breaker aspire to become law maker. will u let liars get away and influence your kids.
Its a question of integrity. Karunanidhi has never denied the fact that he has got 2 wives. Dharmendra is hiding the fact which the whole world knows. He has twisted the laws and religions to pursue his unfaithful passions. Even before coming into public life he seems to have no respect for the laws. Think what he would do if he becomes an elected member.
it is plain dtupid to call it an affair. the whole world knew that they are married and have daughters. one of them is a star now.if ndtv has guts why donot you run a story on KARUNANIDHI who has got three wives--two of them living with him of course in different houses.tell me the name of one political leader who is honest in all respects. it is nothing but mud sligging by congressmen and being a true congress media ndtv is giving publicity to this.
Firstly I think it's not an affair but an accepted marriage.However,I think Dharam should have the guts to accept the fact that he changed his religon(which ofcourse was permitted at that time)to be able to marry another woman.So he should have filed his nominations as Dilawar Khan and named his two wives(Prakash & Hema).But since even this could have raised an eyebrow or two so he restrained doing so. But now that he has accepted to step into this dirty game of politics he should do the appropriate i.e. accept whatever he did and come clean of his image.
The BJP should have the courage to own this
The fellow marries Hema, has 2 daughters from her, and then does'nt have the decency to acknowledge her as his wife. To top it all, the bum wants to be a "dictator" to set the nation right. ARREY DHARAM, TERE JAISE LAFENGE BAHUT DEHK CHUKE HAIN HUM!!
Why not the both communities have stopped him when he was getting married to Hema. The muslims were not aware that what ever he was doing that was only for the sake of marriage...?? Hindus were not aware that he was breaking the hindu marriage act..?? There are many law breakers many more worst charecters in our politics...so, why only Dharam now.....??
But to our utter dismay,he has told the press that he has only one wife i.e. Parkash Kaur,implicating that as per the law,where as Hema Malini has given in her Bio-Data her husband's name is Dharmendra.
Keeping this in view her membership of Rajya Sabha is under scanner and it would be an embrassement of BJP
I think Dharmendra should have known it that Politics is the last resort of a scoundrel,and these type of things will be surfaced.
I should say Dharam/Hemsa should have joined Congress, here they made a mistake...and they will have to pay for this.....This is not fair....!!
No body was bothered about him or his second marriage before his entering the politics...why suddenly this mater cameup that he has cheated the muslim/sharia court and hindu marriage act etc. etc..... Veru and Dream Girl were the favorate pair of the entire indian audians..irrespective of their personalities and posts.
Whats' the objection......?? having second wife or contesting the election ....?? There are too many cases like Dharam/Hema.... but they are not contenting or they are not public figures. However just changing name to Muslim does not mean that they have converted to Islam neither they have cut-off or rejected their actual faith, Hinduism. It is now too late to say that they cheated the law or faith.
why not remove the marrige from the previews of law and allow all to practice what they feel like ? why ask for uniform civil code when marrige and producing childs without marrige is ok? why worship a god who has set high standards when we r ordinary mortals and has come to politics for some quick gains and why errect a temple in his honour ? there r lot many why's and he happens to be in social life and not punished for breaking the law
Well said sachin.I am also of the same view.We have to give chance to him how he fares in politics when we gave lot of chances to rob our country by the above mentioned persons by you
Its' true laws and restrictions are made for the poor. Instead of punishing this man, we better stop the people from breaking the law, injustice or any sort of worng things that effect our society/people. In my view this is the best thing that we can do rather putting ourselves in conflict or fiting after the happenings.
Me too not the defender of Dharam/Hema, or priaising the BJP for his selection, b'cuz even if he is elected he is not going to bring any change to the system thats' we have in our society. My question is why we criticise or object in the end why not at the begning....The relation between Dharam/Hema was so popular even before their marriage.
I never said Dharam is bad as such, i am only pointing out BJP's mistake in selecting him as he has broken the law, others guilt has to be proved but he is guilty(as per the law) and was never punished as law is only used to harass poor and police turns to other side when celebrity breaks it. why not close the courts and shut down the police stations if u cannot jail a man for breaking a law only because he is celebrity and close to power centre.
Lets put hand on our heart and just ask ourself. Has congress dint do anything for the nation???? Why are we so madly following that Vajpayee??????
Its not a matter of having two wives its about admmitting that!!!If you done something why dont you goahead and admit that????By hiding his marriage dharmendra has clearly shown that he deserves all the qualities of the present day politicians.....sorry nowadays politicians dont exist only demogogues!!!!!!!!!!!
You are right, its' the name of Ram & Ram Temple, that broght that BJP to this extent, but no mater what extent they have divided the communities.
It is the minority appeaser congress that is against it.
Correct me if I am wrong
can law breaker be allowed to become law maker, this is the question not right or wrong, life is never fair, lies & making fun of laws is at the centre. It is also against the examples set by Rama whose temple is the reason BJP has progressed so far. Does the BJP does not have a single man in whole Bikaner to fight the election (if we use BJP's language)
At present especially BJP and like minded Religious fanatics messed up with our system and make it really impossible for uniform civil code (which otherwise would have been better option) as now it there is likely hood of riot (again will thank our Politicians), hence today it would be out of place
When Sceientific Laws came, the ancient Laws should have been replaced. But we allowed it to Co-exist due to lack of application of mind or deliberate action of our authorities.
The very necessity of Government and Laws emerged from the findings that, God and its Laws are not adequate to make the man obey the rules, as in God made laws punishment come only post death i.e going to hell or heaven. There also we have choice of confession and avoid punishment.
For argument I say these Laws as Ancient Laws and Government made Laws as Scientific Laws
we are now being ruled by different set of laws say Govt. made Laws, Religious Laws, Community Laws, Family Laws etc.. and Laws are being respected because if violated there would be punishment
I believe in the same.We have two extremes one the appeaser(Congress) and the other instigator(BJP)..and alas we have no Buddha in our midst to show us the "middle path"..Thanks for your comments.I always believed that there should be an open discussion on Uniform Civil Code away from partisan political motives
Sorry, if I offended you.
This is politics and not acting,Dharam should know. Potitics is different than the acting. Before this event i have ever heard Dharmendra joined in some party. Now after a 25 years it is fair and it is unfair this is totally bad. afterall all matter is relating to his personal life only.
I never made any comment on your statement but presented a view after reading your post. The comment was more in relation to the way Congress is making a personal issue an election issue. I think they are rats.
He tells himself as a mard,but has done something else,he followed his beloved into politics and is being used by BJP to garner few votes at his expense.
Mr.Piyush..I am not talking abt Dharam's personal life.For me he just another Indian..what I am talking abt is Civil code in general nd not about a particular person .I dont see any "hypocricy" whatsoever
Politics is not bed of roses,but bed of thorns,he should have consulted his long standing friend Amitabh Bachchan who also had to face music in politics.
Why Dharam is Garam,nobody can understand,since he has joined politics,now he is a public property and under scrutiny,if he has not commited any crime by marrying Hema Malini according to law and social norms then why is he afraid of accepting it.
They are developed them selves, because they don't fight for Mandir/Masjid and they dont' make issues between Ram & Rahim. An ordiniary American/European think and knew about his leader before casting his vote to him. Not like us, just give him a bottle/packet a thirdclass liqor, he will vote even for a donkey.
You are worng my dear, in my view Uniform Civil Code will bring more problems to us. Our prime concept is religion whether he is hindu or muslim. And don't compare india with the west. Issues like Dharm/Hema, or even worst, does not mater Westerns.
when you are in election nothing reamin private your life become public but there is a limit to interfeare in persons private life. in this case also the interferance has crossed the limit it should be stopped.
Mr Prempal ..I am noo voucher for the BJP..but the truth is it is the BJP that is asking for Uniform Civil Code..and I fail to undersatnd when u say--
"At present especially BJP and like minded Religious fanatics messed up with our system and make it really impossible for uniform civil code "
If we stop fighting in the name of religion, and our leaders knew the value of a human life wheter he is a street beggar...then I think we do not need any code for our recognition or future of the country and its people.
our problems will
Grow up dear opponent candidate, you guys are India's future and you are not suppose to perform like this. All the Best Both of you in Election.
May be the person who is trying to expose or rather trying to push panic button for Dharmendra is himself a weak candidate and trying to overcome Dharmendra by such useless issues.
NDTV please remove these miltiple messages from the board. Also put a filter on this user ID. He seems to be out for trouble.
Please don't generalise the issue on Hindu-Muslim lines. MB users posting multiple messages, dirty, filthy, offensive and abusive messages should be discouraged. Let us make it a board for decent and productive debate.
I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
I agree with you that life is peace and happiness. But it can not be the sole purpose of life. I ask you a question, life for what? Answer me then we will move ahead with our discussion.
I always thought that all people are ready to live and die for the country. But there are few like you and your friends who only want to live and not die for the country. I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
It is further shocking that you find 100% truth in their statement. I would say that they are a security threat to this country. I agree with you that life is peace and happiness. But it can not be the sole purpose of life. I ask you a question, life for what? Answer me then we will move ahead with our discussion.
What were they expecting after joining the Army, a nine-to-five job at a peace station in AC rooms for their whole life with special perks? And please don't go off-the-track to movies, if your Army friends are real. I always thought that all people are ready to live and die for the country. But there are few like you and your friends who only want to live and not die for the country. I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
May I join the argument? do you mean that you have some friends in army who are saying that why should they die for India? If it is true then it is a shocking news. It is further shocking that you find 100% truth in their statement. I would say that they are a security threat to this country. I agree with you that life is peace and happiness. But it can not be the sole purpose of life. I ask you a question, life for what? Answer me then we will move ahead with our discussion.
you really have friends who are a threat to this country. If it is known to Army authorities then your friends will be in real danger. I do not want to do anything with you and your friends.
Not all Muslims, like one can say not all Hindus have heart.
I fully agree with you. All are equal. But there are people who think that if every citizin of India will be treated equal to every other citizen then their shops will close. They are surviving only on inequality. Such people are every where and in every political party or organization.To run their shops they divide people. It is wrong to blame one group or other for this.All are to be blamed.
And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
I am surprised and highly disappointed to read your post. You referred to some of your friends in the army. Were they approached or forced by someone to join the Army? Did they not know what Army is for? What were they expecting after joining the Army, a nine-to-five job at a peace station in AC rooms for their whole life with special perks? And please don't go off-the-track to movies, if your Army friends are real. I always thought that all people are ready to live and die for the country. But there are few like you and your friends who only want to live and not die for the country. I shudder at the thought of what they might do when war breaks out. Such people should be immediately reported to Army authorities. And, there is no 'onething-is-sure' that after death, there will be nothing called India. India will always be there whether your friends in Army die or not die for India when need arises.
Such negative attitude is the cause of all problems. Why do you always look and bother for those Hindus who abuse Muslims? There are Hindus who do not abuse Muslims. Look for them and you will find that life has become more pleasant.
It is a matter of national pride or shame, and it can not be decided by congress and BJP. What they think or do is guided by their political compulsions which are in most of cases against national interest. Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
They are surviving only on inequality. Such people are every where and in every political party or organization.To run their shops they divide people. It is wrong to blame one group or other for this.All are to be blamed.
It should not be treated as matter of law. Also some senior congress leaders say that BJP can not raise its fingers as their own leaders are tainted. It is a matter of national pride or shame, and it can not be decided by congress and BJP. What they think or do is guided by their political compulsions which are in most of cases against national interest. Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
May be you are right. I am not an expert on Islam. If there is an MB user who knows about the detailed teachings of Islam should come forward and educate us.
Whether tainted minsters are a liability for congress, should be examined and answered by Congress. In a common man's opinion they are a liability for the nation.And it is not only liability, it is a matter of shame for and insult to the nation and its people. India's first nominated PM, Mr. Manmohan Singh says that a person is innocent till proven guilty. No Sir, it a matter of personal ethics and cleanliness of attitude and approach. It should not be treated as matter of law. Also some senior congress leaders say that BJP can not raise its fingers as their own leaders are tainted. It is a matter of national pride or shame, and it can not be decided by congress and BJP. What they think or do is guided by their political compulsions which are in most of cases against national interest. Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
PMO will work at Vigyan Bhawan under elected CLP leader. Whatever has remained of PMO at South Block will function under PM nominated by elected CLP leader.
Dr. Ambedkar was a true champion of dalit cause. He loved them. He wanted to do lot of things for them. But under no circumstances he wanted to expolit them like present day politicians are expoliting to serve their vested interests.
I don't think Sunder or anybody is trying to take any credit for it. I for one is an admirer of Ambedkar but oppose reservation.I am sure that if Ambedkar was alive today he woould also have opposed resrvation the way it is being practiced now. Dr. Ambedkar was a true champion of dalit cause. He loved them. He wanted to do lot of things for them. But under no circumstances he wanted to expolit them like present day politicians are expoliting to serve their vested interests.
Do you mean say that reservation is the gift of the great messiah Ambedkar to you. And as he faught with Brahmins to give you reservation no other person should take credit. I don't think Sunder or anybody is trying to take any credit for it. I for one is an admirer of Ambedkar but oppose reservation.I am sure that if Ambedkar was alive today he woould also have opposed resrvation the way it is being practiced now. Dr. Ambedkar was a true champion of dalit cause. He loved them. He wanted to do lot of things for them. But under no circumstances he wanted to expolit them like present day politicians are expoliting to serve their vested interests.
Suppose highly talented Lalloo was not there would you still support tainted ministers in the cabinet ruled by one of the polished gem of the world?
Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
What they think or do is guided by their political compulsions which are in most of cases against national interest. Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
India's first nominated PM, Mr. Manmohan Singh says that a person is innocent till proven guilty. No Sir, it a matter of personal ethics and cleanliness of attitude and approach. It should not be treated as matter of law. Also some senior congress leaders say that BJP can not raise its fingers as their own leaders are tainted. It is a matter of national pride or shame, and it can not be decided by congress and BJP. What they think or do is guided by their political compulsions which are in most of cases against national interest. Moreover one wrong can not make another wrong right. These tainted minsters are a shame to the nation and should be removed immediately.
When a great leader like Bill Clinton could be impeached owing to his (personal) ex-marital affair then Dharmendra should be prepared for all this....though on paper it may not be fair but a leader is always looked upto!!!
No Offense to Mr. Dharam.
I guess it is more than a quarter decade, since Dharam-Hema relationship/affair/marriage .... no one ever questioned him/her .... now that both happen to be in public life, they owe a explanation/clarification about their relationship.
It is not politicising, it is mere clarifying. Since Mr. Dharam is about to enter public life, the public has right to know everything about him.
People who do not adhere to strict quality standards and certifications should not be allowed be be in business and kill people.
Still i look towards the sky in a belief that u r there and blinking as good as pole star, please show your spot in the sky soundarya, blink when i look at the sky, i miss u a lot, my heart is beating for you and it will. are u along with my dear kalpana chawla....
Soundarya...We take cue from you...
its a pity to loose a wonderful human like you...It shouldn'y have been you, it should have been the Agni Aviation People who import oudated, obselete 2, 3 and 4 seater aircrafts from Garage sales in US. I'm not even sure if they paid anything to the original owner for the metallic junk called aircraft.
though i am from delhi and am a north indian so i don't really know what movies she's done, I found it really sad and heart-wrenching that someone so young died an untimely death
destiny is so cruel sometimes.
Political parties are in a way resposible for these kind of mishaps. However,noone can change destiny. Its really a great tragic news to hear the death of a lovely,thoughtful & charming actress soundarya.
Now the Old Styles are Derailed... Looking for NEW..
Sorry! I will try my best!
Most Stylish Stars! are in KOLLYWOOD only.
Good! But the Big-B is not coming under the Countdown circle. He is apart from Countdown.
This is too good!
Great!
Arre! This is good yaar!
The Big-B is always the best!
I like that line from the movie Pardes...which essentially went something like "we indians segragate the genders like animals, and yet create the most children on earth" ..this is an exagerated view ..true, but to some extent, it is quite valid. The difference between west and us is simply that..they are freely accepting of sex, as a concept (upto a point obviously) and don't salivate or make big issues about kissing scenes in a movie..for example. If a girl is wearing shorts in shopping mall out west, some may look, but most will simply go on with their business...here in India, however, if a girl wears shorts, you'll see most men literally gawking at them with their tongues hanging out. So Sad.
And Amitabh is a LIVING LEGEND too!
An EVERGREEN SUPER STAR is AMITABH only. He is not coming under the countdown category. And now the SuperStar is Sharukh Khan.
Is tarah ki movies ko please appreciate nahi karo, takey aur achi movies dekhnay ko mil sakein bollywood main. last best movie i saw was Munna Bhai Mbbs, original script, and little bit comedy, and nice story. This what i call a smashing film, not this koi mil gaya. yar nothing is new in this script, this alien type of stories have been made a lot in hollywood. aur is Koi mil Gaya main, jo alien banaya tha woh cartoon lagg raha tha. is film main sirif hritik ki acting behtar thi, baaqi this film has nothing to offer. except hritik dance.
I think Hrithik is hard working person and always deserves success,good luck or bad luck notwithstanding. Its a wonderful film.
Hrithik's acting is fantastic.
It is purely an childrens movie and there is no comeedy factor and the music is also very poor which was't expected from rajesh roshan after knph.though the story was different but is was an extremely small story for 3 hours and 15 minutes.
also the movie has got a lot of copied features.
it should be noted that hrithik's action was amazing but there is no need for an actor of that stature to do such a silly roles.and also his papas direction was just an average.
succesfully carrying the role both from a critics' and human angle one cansee a good interplay in characters, it's convincing and charactersiation ie But what stands the film apart is the idea.. that beyond human limitiation an optimism in outlook and faith can carry one , this is positive philosophy emerging from the brilliantly 'inspired' script
It's convincing and charactersiation ie But what stands the film apart is the idea.. that beyond human limitiation an optimism in outlook and faith can carry one , this is positive philosophy emerging from the brilliantly 'inspired' script
It's convincing and charactersiation ie But what stands the film apart is the idea.. that beyond human limitiation an optimism in outlook and faith can carry one , this is positive philosophy emerging from the brilliantly 'inspired' script
Aur is Koi mil Gaya main, jo alien banaya tha woh cartoon lagg raha tha. is film main sirif hritik ki acting behtar thi, baaqi this film has nothing to offer. except hritik dance. is tarah ki movies ko please appreciate nahi karo, takey aur achi movies dekhnay ko mil sakein bollywood main. last best movie i saw was Munna Bhai Mbbs, original script, and little bit comedy, and nice story. This what i call a smashing film, not this koi mil gaya.
succesfully carrying the role both from a critics' and human angle one cansee a good interplay in characters, it's convincing and charactersiation ie But what stands the film apart is the idea.. that beyond human limitiation an optimism in outlook and faith can carry one , this is positive philosophy emerging from the brilliantly 'inspired' script
KOI MIL GAYA HIS HOME PRODUCTION A MOVIE I GUESS FOR CHILDREN. JUST FLOANTING BUILD IS NOT THE ACTING NOR THE GOOD STUNT IN ACTING. TALKING ABOUT ACTING HE HAS DONE CONSIDERABLE WELL THEN YAADEIN. HE IS JUST PLAIN LUCKY TO WIN AWARD FOR THE MOVIE .
SPORTS
We should be prepared to return empty handed, like we did at Colombo. Otherwise, Lee-Hesh are our best bet, followed by Kunjarani/Malleswari (the weight-lifters) and Anjali/Rathore (the shooters). Anju has got too much media coverage without touching 7 m even once - her getting a medal is like Veeru's 200 at Sri Lanka! And our hockey team? They have managed to lose a game to Ireland (never knew Ireland played hockey!!) - so WHAT ARE WE DISCUSSING??
Indias chances are as depending on the hopes and prayers of 100 crore people who wish to c india win a gold in olympics. Its a shame that suach a huge country has sent only 75 sportsmen to win a medal in the olympics...
When the Olympics torch on it's way to Greece, came to india and the Olympic gold medalist P.T.Usha was not honoured to carry it on the streets of the capital city Delhi, but the filmi sex symbols like bipasha basu was invited to cary it. What a pity on the Indian Olympic Association. They can plan well in advance to call the filmi stars but couldnt plan to invite the person who is worth to hold it. This clearly tells us that india will not even bring a medal.
If i will be the selector,then 90 % swimming and diving medals (gold,silver,bronze)will be for india.
See our india selectors are not profeeionals in sports.
Dalmiya, Arun Jetli, Suresh kalmadi, and some
MPs. If they are from professionals and they like the sports they played,then nobody can change his mind thru money or recommends. If they can't they will resign fro the post they do not want the his sport has to go down due to poor players.
In india who have money and recommend they can get any post.Today cricket selctors are choosing players for trination. You know who are all members,they are not played even in atleast school level cricket. You accepting we are 100 crore peolple but we are not have the ability to make one gold. I will directly blame the baatarad selectors like in cricket olympic also we have suresh kalmadi(he doesn't anything about sports.
Any way, I strongly believe that Anju George will bring a medal. She has taken sufficient pain for that.
So the thing make these people elite is their fortitude to be the best and segregates them from the mass (like u and me) would just think about survival and have no big dreams.
To be the best in a given sport requires graet deal of commitment and endurance and very few manage to come out successful. This is not true for sports alone but anyother field where you battle is not just to survive but to come out on the top. The alhlete from etopia nad kenya theyhave go against all odds to bring glory. The truth in post-war era a nations pride rest in such laurels.
Hope you will not be offended and take this in the right spirit.
If every man though like you then the world would have been poorer. Its this competitive spirit for taht matter in any field that set the pace leads to inventions taht you people like u and me savour.
The alhlete from etopia nad kenya theyhave go against all odds to bring glory. The truth in post-war era a nations pride rest in such laurels.
Which is more or less what all other Religions in some form or the other too preach....Does that mean every Indian going abroad is going over to spread Hinduism, I don't think so.... Conversions take place in all religious
This is not true for sports alone but anyother field where you battle is not just to survive but to come out on the top. The alhlete from etopia nad kenya theyhave go against all odds to bring glory. The truth in post-war era a nations pride rest in such laurels.
You have a wrong perspective. just goes on to show u have never been a athlete. Olympics is an very important event inspite all the recent drug related turmoil. Donot make the mistake of comparing you to these stalwarts
no i am not offended n wht ever u wrote make sense but honestly speaking i dont like the games for any spirit or for any gesture they are held.
see we live in so called democratic world u have ur opinion i have mine n we cannnot impose it on each other but | |
